Re: [Solved] SIP installation and usage on windows

2010-04-12 Thread omnia neo
On Apr 9, 7:41 pm, Gabriel Genellina wrote: > omnia neo gmail.com> writes: > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 10:42 am, omnia neo wrote: > > > On Apr 9, 10:30 am, Stefan Behnel wrote: > > > > > omnia neo, 09.04.2010 07:01: > > > > > > import siptest > > > > > > I get following error : > > > > > import err

Re: Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread Patrick Maupin
On Apr 12, 9:26 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > # The obfuscated, fragile way > map( itemgetter(0), sorted( >      zip(db, range(1, len(db)+1)), key=lambda t: t[1] if t[1] in i else -1 >      )[-len(i):] ) I have to hand it to you that this might, in fact, be "the" obfuscated, fragile way, but I go

Re: Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:05:30 -0700, vsoler wrote: > Hi everyone, > > say that 'db' is a list of values > say 'i' is a list of indexes > I'd like to get a list where each item is i-th element of db. > > For example: > > db=[10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90] #undefined length > i=[3,5,7] #undefi

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Re: What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-12 Thread Robert Kern
On 2010-04-12 17:02 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote: Looking for advice on what Python license and copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial (Windows based) Python based application. The requirement is fairly broad; there are a number of things you could do to satisf

What license/copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial Python based application?

2010-04-12 Thread Malcolm Greene
Looking for advice on what Python license and copyright text to include and where to include it when selling a commercial (Windows based) Python based application. By license text and copyrights I am refering to the text on this page: PYTHON SOFTWARE FOUNDATION LICENSE VERSION 2 http://www.python

Re: Startup problems with Python 3.1.2 and PythonPath under XP

2010-04-12 Thread Martin v. Loewis
tkp...@hotmail.com wrote: > I fixed the problem by creating a file call MyPath.pth that has only > one line > H:/Python > > and placing it in the C:\Python31\Lib\site-packages directory. So as a > practical matter, my problem is solved. That said, I'm still puzzled > by why Python 3.1 acts up when

Re: Destructor being called twice?

2010-04-12 Thread Duncan Booth
Longpoke wrote: > So either this test case is wrong to assume the destructor can only be > called once, or there is a bug in Python? Or perhaps more likely you misunderstand what is happening here. Maybe there are two separate instances of A()? If I remember correctly gtk wraps C objects in Py

Download Visual Studio Express 2008 now

2010-04-12 Thread Martin v. Loewis
Microsoft has just released Visual Studio 2010, along with its free (of charge) Express edition. Following a tradition, they are likely to withdraw support and availability for VS 2008 Express some time in the future. Python 2.6, 2.7, and 3.1 are all built with that release (i.e. 2008). Because of

Re: 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread Mensanator
On Apr 12, 11:39 am, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 4/12/2010 1:57 AM, Mensanator wrote: > > > Likewise, I usually don't shut down > > when I leave work, so I can't allow orphaned processes to accumulate > > eating up CPU and memory. > > So don't. I don't. I'm complaining about the need to do that. > >

Re: Destructor being called twice?

2010-04-12 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Longpoke gmail.com> writes: > So either this test case is wrong to assume the destructor can only be > called once, or there is a bug in Python? Destructors can be called more than once in CPython, but other implementations have proper finalization behavior. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread vsoler
On 12 abr, 22:11, Patrick Maupin wrote: > On Apr 12, 3:05 pm, vsoler wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > say that 'db' is a list of values > > say 'i' is a list of indexes > > I'd like to get a list where each item is i-th element of db. > > > For example: > > > db=[10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90]      #

Re: Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:05 PM, vsoler wrote: > Hi everyone, > > say that 'db' is a list of values > say 'i' is a list of indexes > I'd like to get a list where each item is i-th element of db. > > For example: > > db=[10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90]      #undefined length > i=[3,5,7]                

Re: Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread Patrick Maupin
On Apr 12, 3:05 pm, vsoler wrote: > Hi everyone, > > say that 'db' is a list of values > say 'i' is a list of indexes > I'd like to get a list where each item is i-th element of db. > > For example: > > db=[10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90]      #undefined length > i=[3,5,7]                            

Extracting an undefined number of items from a list

2010-04-12 Thread vsoler
Hi everyone, say that 'db' is a list of values say 'i' is a list of indexes I'd like to get a list where each item is i-th element of db. For example: db=[10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90] #undefined length i=[3,5,7] #undefined length then result=[30,50,70]

Re: 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread Mensanator
On Apr 12, 3:51 am, alex23 wrote: > Mensanator wrote: > > You think the right thing to do is just quietly work > > around the problem and sit back and laugh knowing sooner > > or later someone else will get burned by it? > > Haven't we covered argument from fallacy enough in this group by now? >

Re: Startup problems with Python 3.1.2 and PythonPath under XP

2010-04-12 Thread tkp...@hotmail.com
I fixed the problem by creating a file call MyPath.pth that has only one line H:/Python and placing it in the C:\Python31\Lib\site-packages directory. So as a practical matter, my problem is solved. That said, I'm still puzzled by why Python 3.1 acts up when I set the environment variable PYTHONPA

Destructor being called twice?

2010-04-12 Thread Longpoke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Is it normal for the destructor to be called more than once? This code caused it to happen: import gtk class A(gtk.Window): def __init__(self): gtk.Window.__init__(self) self.connect("delete-event", lambda w,e: gtk.main_quit(

mechanize.browser() click or submit related problem

2010-04-12 Thread ken
Hello All. im making some website login function with mechanize.browser() module. but problem is i can't send submit or click submit button with mechanize click() function, it not working. how can i submit button or click() function make it work? i can make it work mechanize.Request and mechanize.u

Startup problems with Python 3.1.2 and PythonPath under XP

2010-04-12 Thread tkp...@hotmail.com
I run Python under Windows XP SP3, and for the longest time, I have installed it on my C: drive under C:\PythonXX (XX = 20, 21., 26), and maintained all my Python files on our network in a directory called H:\Python that I point to by creating an environment variable called PYTHONPATH. I recent

Re: rich comparison fscks up reference count?

2010-04-12 Thread Gerhard Häring
On Apr 12, 4:27 pm, Gerhard Häring wrote: > Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I can't figure out why doing a > rich comparison on my object decreases the total reference count by 1. [...] Doh! It turned out the strange effect was due to my particular build process. My Python 2.6/3.1 are built

Re: Reading in a file

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Maggie wrote: > hello, > > i have a basic script i need to implement. i need below code to read > in a file and perform operation is it designed to do: > > #!/usr/bin/python > > import sys > > feed = sys.stdin.readlines() This sounds like homework, so here are so

Reading in a file

2010-04-12 Thread Maggie
hello, i have a basic script i need to implement. i need below code to read in a file and perform operation is it designed to do: #!/usr/bin/python import sys feed = sys.stdin.readlines() for temp in feed: line = temp.split() if len(line) == 3: if (line[0] == "xmax" or line[0] == "xmi

Re: raise exception with fake filename and linenumber

2010-04-12 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:19:48 -0300, kwatch escribió: On 4月8日, 午後12:52, "Gabriel Genellina" wrote: The built-in SyntaxError exception does what you want. Constructor parameters are undocumented, but they're as follows: raise SyntaxError("A descriptive error message", (filename, line

Re: How to read file during module import?

2010-04-12 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:16:14 -0300, Jeremy escribió: On Apr 9, 4:02 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" wrote: En Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:04:59 -0300, Jeremy escribió: > A related question: Can I parse the data once and keep it somewhere > instead of reading the supporting file every time? I tried pickli

Re: gps coordinate identification

2010-04-12 Thread Luis Quesada
Luis Quesada wrote: Dear all, Given a gps coordinate, I would like to find out the country the coordinate belongs to. I wonder whether there is a python library that offers this capability... (In case somebody here is looking for the same thing) Somebody in sci.geo.satellite-nav suggested usin

Re: How to read file during module import?

2010-04-12 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:43:03 -0300, HigStar escribió: I have had trouble with the __file__ attribute in the past, when using py2exe (i.e. on the windows platform) and using the bundle feature (which zips all files). Using os.path.realpath( __file__ ) resolves to something like .../ library.zip/

Re: Sometimes the python shell cannot recognize the presence of an attribute.

2010-04-12 Thread Simon Brunning
2010/4/12 Ricardo Aráoz : > Because . ... Guido says so: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ -- Cheers, Simon B. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Sometimes the python shell cannot recognize the presence of an attribute.

2010-04-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Aahz wrote: > In article , > Justin Park wrote: > >> The real problem is this. When I started working on the package, >> somehow all of indentations were made by space-bars instead of using >> tabs. But when I am implementing my own on top of it, I still use tabs >> to make indentations. >>

Re: python and enigma2

2010-04-12 Thread luca72
On 12 Apr, 19:10, luca72 wrote: > Hello i have a dvb decoder with enigma2 inside, The enigma2 plugin can > be made with python. > In my plugin i have to use pyserial, but in the decoder the python2.5 > reply in this way: > r...@bm750:/var/pyserial-2.5-rc2# python setup.py install > Traceback (most

python and enigma2

2010-04-12 Thread luca72
Hello i have a dvb decoder with enigma2 inside, The enigma2 plugin can be made with python. In my plugin i have to use pyserial, but in the decoder the python2.5 reply in this way: r...@bm750:/var/pyserial-2.5-rc2# python setup.py install Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 8

Pickle

2010-04-12 Thread gerardob
I have a problem using Pickle inside a class object. The following code works: m2 = markov_model.MarkovModel() m2 = pickle.load(open("prueba", 'rb')) print m2.n However, if I create the following method inside markov_model.MarkovModel: def load_model_from_file(self, name): try:

Re: 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 4/12/2010 1:57 AM, Mensanator wrote: Likewise, I usually don't shut down when I leave work, so I can't allow orphaned processes to accumulate eating up CPU and memory. So don't. Orphaned processes only accumulate when you use Restart Shell to abandon a process stuck in an infinite loop. I

Re: Sometimes the python shell cannot recognize the presence of an attribute.

2010-04-12 Thread Aahz
In article , Justin Park wrote: > >The real problem is this. When I started working on the package, >somehow all of indentations were made by space-bars instead of using >tabs. But when I am implementing my own on top of it, I still use tabs >to make indentations. Stop using TAB. Allowing TAB

Re: Replacing Periods with Backspaces

2010-04-12 Thread Booter
All, Thanks for all the help I finally got it. I ended up not having to get rid of the periods. Thanks again! Gerad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

ANN: Pyrex 0.9.9

2010-04-12 Thread Gregory Ewing
Pyrex 0.9.9 is now available: http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/greg.ewing/python/Pyrex/ Highlights of this release: * Some facilities for interfacing with C++ code have been added. * Changes have been made to the semantics of exception catching to improve efficiency. * Preparation is be

Re: Tempering Client Expectations (OT)

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
[Big snip] Heh, my wife and I joke that in those "can this marriage be saved" newspaper columns, every answer boils down to "communication is key". Keep the customer tightly in the loop with regular communication -- frequent feedback regarding progress, costs, and whether your shared underst

Re: Python Pickle

2010-04-12 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
gerardob a écrit : I have a problem using Pickle inside a class object. The following code works: m2 = markov_model.MarkovModel() m2 = pickle.load(open("prueba", 'rb')) Given the second line, the first is totally useless. print m2.n However, if I create the following method inside markov_

Python Pickle

2010-04-12 Thread gerardob
I have a problem using Pickle inside a class object. The following code works: m2 = markov_model.MarkovModel() m2 = pickle.load(open("prueba", 'rb')) print m2.n However, if I create the following method inside markov_model.MarkovModel: def load_model_from_file(self, name): try:

Re: Tempering Client Expectations (OT)

2010-04-12 Thread Victor Subervi
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tim Chase wrote: > your own inaccurate assumptions and answer those, please. >> > > > Heh, my wife and I joke that in those "can this marriage be saved" > newspaper columns, every answer boils down to "communication is key". Keep > the customer tightly in the loo

Re: rich comparison fscks up reference count?

2010-04-12 Thread Gerhard Häring
Can be run like this: ghaer...@ws124~/src/gh/test$ python3 setup.py build_ext --inplace running build_ext building 'foo' extension gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -g -fwrapv -O0 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes - arch i386 -m32 -I/opt/jetstream/include/python3.1 -c foo.c -o build/ temp.macosx-10.4-i386-3.1-pyde

rich comparison fscks up reference count?

2010-04-12 Thread Gerhard Häring
Maybe somebody can enlighten me here. I can't figure out why doing a rich comparison on my object decreases the total reference count by 1. Linked is the minimal test case with a C exension that compiles under both Python 2.6 and 3.1. No external dependencies, except a DEBUG build of Python to see

Re: Tempering Client Expectations (OT)

2010-04-12 Thread Tim Chase
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Re: 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
Mensanator wrote: On Apr 10, 11:51�pm, alex23 wrote: Mensanator wrote: 3.x won't be adopted by WINDOWS developers WHO USE IDLE until it's fixed. I think you left your hyperbole level too high so I turned it down for you. I don't know of _anyone_ who uses IDLE to run production code, nor do I

Re: tools for network adminstrator

2010-04-12 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM, prakash jp wrote: > Hi all, > > Can any one mention a list of python based tools (existant / could be > developed) which network administrators might need. > Not sure if you might like, but there's an O'Reilly book titled "Python for Unix and Linux System Administ

Re: Refresh Problem

2010-04-12 Thread Victor Subervi
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Tim Chase > wrote: > >> On 04/11/2010 02:53 PM, MRAB wrote: >> >>> Victor Subervi wrote: >>> Hi; I send variables to a script. The script adds appropriate lines into a database of an order to

Re: [Python-Dev] [RELEASED] 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:13 AM, average wrote: > > There are so many features taken from 3.0 that I fear that it will > postpone its adoption interminably (it is, in practice, treated as > "beta" software itself).  By making it doctrine that it won't be > official until the next "major" Python re

Re: Refresh Problem

2010-04-12 Thread Victor Subervi
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > On 04/11/2010 02:53 PM, MRAB wrote: > >> Victor Subervi wrote: >> >>> Hi; >>> I send variables to a script. The script adds appropriate lines into a >>> database of an order to my shopping cart. When I refresh the screen, as >>> no doubt some cus

Re: Write web apps in Python?

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Behnel
Gilles Ganault, 12.04.2010 11:57: I'd like to make sure I understand what the options are to write web applications in Python: - à la PHP, using Apache's mod_python - using eg. Lighttpd and configuring it to load the Python interpreter every time a Python script is called (www.jakehilton.com/?q

Re: Write web apps in Python?

2010-04-12 Thread Luis M . González
On 12 abr, 06:57, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Hello > > I'd like to make sure I understand what the options are to write web > applications in Python: > > - à la PHP, using Apache's mod_python > > - using eg. Lighttpd and configuring it to load the Python interpreter > every time a Python script is ca

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2010-04-12 Thread prakash jp
Hi all, Can any one mention a list of *python based tools* (existant / could be developed) which network administrators might need. Regards Prakash -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Regular Expressions

2010-04-12 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2010-04-11, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:11:07 -0700, Patrick Maupin wrote: >> On Apr 10, 11:35??am, Neil Cerutti wrote: >>> On 2010-04-10, Patrick Maupin wrote: >>> > as Pyparsing". ??Which is all well and good, except then the OP will >>> > download pyparsing, take a look

Re: Tempering Client Expectations (OT)

2010-04-12 Thread Victor Subervi
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Tim Chase wrote: > 1) Preeminently, address second-order ignorance. Tim, throughout this post, you're way out of line. The s/w I have already built for this client works just fine. It's not a matter or not having the tools or not knowing how to use them. Pay atte

Re: Question about LLVM

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Behnel
Hannes, 12.04.2010 12:56: I heard that its possible to use LLVM to speed up Python. Can anybody explain to me, how that works? http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/ Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Write web apps in Python?

2010-04-12 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:13:17 +0200, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >For additional info have a look at http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebProgramming Thanks for the link. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Question about LLVM

2010-04-12 Thread Hannes
Hi Pythoneers, I heard that its possible to use LLVM to speed up Python. Can anybody explain to me, how that works? thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: About Python execution speed

2010-04-12 Thread Leonardo Giordani
Thank you Chris and Stefan, this was the answer I was looking for. Leonardo Giordani -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Classes as namespaces?

2010-04-12 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Aahz a écrit : In article , kj wrote: What's the word on using "classes as namespaces"? E.g. class _cfg(object): spam = 1 jambon = 3 huevos = 2 breakfast = (_cfg.spam, _cfg.jambon, _cfg.huevos) There is one gotcha associated with using classes as namespaces: you have to be care

Re: About Python execution speed

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Behnel
Leonardo Giordani, 12.04.2010 11:51: I'm facing a strange issue in Python execution speed. I'm running the following test script: -8<- dim = 1000 iteration = 10 list1 = [] list2 = [] for i in range(dim): list1.a

Re: About Python execution speed

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Leonardo Giordani wrote: > which runs in about 80 seconds on my local hardware (mean of multiple > execution) > If I move the whole code into a function and call this latter the execution > time drops to about 45 seconds. > > What is the reason of this improvement

Re: Write web apps in Python?

2010-04-12 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
> I'd like to make sure I understand what the options are to write web > applications in Python: > > - à la PHP, using Apache's mod_python > > - using eg. Lighttpd and configuring it to load the Python interpreter > every time a Python script is called (www.jakehilton.com/?q=node/54) > > - long-run

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Write web apps in Python?

2010-04-12 Thread Gilles Ganault
Hello I'd like to make sure I understand what the options are to write web applications in Python: - à la PHP, using Apache's mod_python - using eg. Lighttpd and configuring it to load the Python interpreter every time a Python script is called (www.jakehilton.com/?q=node/54) - long-running pro

About Python execution speed

2010-04-12 Thread Leonardo Giordani
Hi all, I'm facing a strange issue in Python execution speed. I'm running the following test script: -8<- dim = 1000 iteration = 10 list1 = [] list2 = [] for i in range(dim): list1.append(float(i)) list2.appen

Re: 2.7 beta 1

2010-04-12 Thread alex23
Mensanator wrote: > You think the right thing to do is just quietly work > around the problem and sit back and laugh knowing sooner > or later someone else will get burned by it? Haven't we covered argument from fallacy enough in this group by now? Reporting the bug was exactly the right thing t

Re: A 'foolproof' way to query inheritance tree? numbers.Real in 2.6)

2010-04-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:47:59 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:46 AM, > wrote: >> Generally, if I want to know the inheritance tree of a class, I either >> use inspect.getmro or __bases__ >> >> However, after reading about the new numbers module / class tower in >> Python 2