On Sun, 16 May 2010 21:53:21 -0700, Carl Banks wrote:
> I've never had to do it (at least not in any situations where I had any
> reluctance to call list on it), but it seems like a fairly bad
> limitation. Random element from a set is such a natural idea.
There was a long discussion on the Pyth
On May 14, 11:52 pm, Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Carl Banks wrote:
> > On May 14, 9:39 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> >> On 5/14/2010 11:24 AM, gerardob wrote:
> >> > Hello, let S be a python set which is not empty
> >> > (http://docs.python.org/library/sets.html)
>
> >> >
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> In what way are they constant? Can you not modify them and rebind them?
It's just style/convention :)
Much like _ to denote private variables and methods!
--james
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For sound ( not internal beep ) you can check out:
- pygame: http://www.pygame.org/project-PygSoundTestTest-1453-.html
- python.org/sound : http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic
- pk http://trac2.assembla.com/pkaudio/
- pureData http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/py
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On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:57:15 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
> James Mills wrote:
>> The only place global variables are considered somewhat "acceptable"
>> are as constants in a module shared as a static value.
>
> Python really ought to have named constants.
+1
Unfortunately, it will most likely
In article <87r5ldbw3k@benfinney.id.au>,
Ben Finney wrote:
>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes:
>>
>> You can't really sell Open Source software in any practical way;
>> someone will always undercut you once it's out in the wild. You can
>> only sell support for the software, which is entirel
On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:34:57 +1000, James Mills wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, John Nagle wrote:
>> For one thing, it's fine to share constants across threads, while
>> sharing globals is generally undesirable. Also, more compile-time
>> arithmetic becomes possible.
>>
>> Python
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, John Nagle wrote:
> For one thing, it's fine to share constants across threads, while
> sharing globals is generally undesirable. Also, more compile-time
> arithmetic becomes possible.
>
> Python does have a few built-in named unassignable constants:
> "True"
You can't subclass Ellipsis.
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Hi all,
I am wondering if there is a way to generate a tone for the
motherboard speaker, like the call to Beep() in C++?
Also, is there a module to generate tones in Python using the sound
card? A module that can beep at a given frequency for a given time
using the usual sine wave is okay, but the
James Mills wrote:
The only place global variables are considered somewhat "acceptable"
are as constants in a module shared as a static value.
Python really ought to have named constants.
For one thing, it's fine to share constants across threads, while
sharing globals is generally undes
On 5/16/2010 6:58 PM, Paul LaFollette wrote:
Anyway, again can you point me to somewhere that I can learn more? In
particular, is there a list somewhere of the builtin types that are
not subclassable?
I believe that in 3.1, the builtin classes with builtin names can be
subclassed and and tho
On May 16, 4:17 pm, Christian Heimes wrote:
> > First, I've looked a fair bit and can't find how one can find the base
> > classes of a subclass? isinstance and issubclass sort of do the
> > opposite of what I want. Surely somewhere there is something like
>
> > MyThingee.something.orOther.baseC
On Sun, 16 May 2010 18:58:45 -0400, Paul LaFollette wrote:
> First, I've looked a fair bit and can't find how one can find the base
> classes of a subclass?
subclass.__base__
subclass.__bases__
subclass.__mro__
(The third one stands for "Method Resolution Order".)
See also the inspect module.
On 17 mayo, 00:52, Patrick Maupin wrote:
> On May 16, 5:38 pm, James Mills wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 AM, vsoler wrote:
> > > However, can I be 100% sure that,no matter how I access variable
> > > 'x' (with config.x or mod.config.x) it is always the same 'x'. I mean
> > > that eit
First, I've looked a fair bit and can't find how one can find the base
classes of a subclass? isinstance and issubclass sort of do the
opposite of what I want. Surely somewhere there is something like
MyThingee.something.orOther.baseClasses()
You can get the direct parents of a class with the
Kind people,
Using Python 3.1
I have been poking around trying to get more insight into Python's
innards, and I have a couple of (marginally) related questions.
First, I've looked a fair bit and can't find how one can find the base
classes of a subclass? isinstance and issubclass sort of do the
On May 16, 5:38 pm, James Mills wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 AM, vsoler wrote:
> > However, can I be 100% sure that,no matter how I access variable
> > 'x' (with config.x or mod.config.x) it is always the same 'x'. I mean
> > that either reference of 'x' points to the same id(memory posi
On 17 mayo, 00:38, James Mills wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 AM, vsoler wrote:
> > However, can I be 100% sure that,no matter how I access variable
> > 'x' (with config.x or mod.config.x) it is always the same 'x'. I mean
> > that either reference of 'x' points to the same id(memory posit
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 AM, vsoler wrote:
> However, can I be 100% sure that,no matter how I access variable
> 'x' (with config.x or mod.config.x) it is always the same 'x'. I mean
> that either reference of 'x' points to the same id(memory position)?
Yes it does unless you re-assign it.
--
On 17 mayo, 00:05, Patrick Maupin wrote:
> On May 16, 4:42 pm, vsoler wrote:
>
>
>
> > Taken fromwww.python.org, FAQ 2.3 How do I share global variables
> > across modules?
>
> > config.py:
>
> > x = 0 # Default value of the 'x' configuration setting
>
> > mod.py:
>
> > import config
> > config
On Sun, 16 May 2010 22:42:40 +0100, vsoler wrote:
Taken from www.python.org, FAQ 2.3 How do I share global variables
across modules?
config.py:
x = 0 # Default value of the 'x' configuration setting
mod.py:
import config
config.x = 1
main.py:
import config # try removing it
impo
On May 16, 4:42 pm, vsoler wrote:
> Taken fromwww.python.org, FAQ 2.3 How do I share global variables
> across modules?
>
> config.py:
>
> x = 0 # Default value of the 'x' configuration setting
>
> mod.py:
>
> import config
> config.x = 1
>
> main.py:
>
> import config # try removing it
>
Taken from www.python.org, FAQ 2.3 How do I share global variables
across modules?
config.py:
x = 0 # Default value of the 'x' configuration setting
mod.py:
import config
config.x = 1
main.py:
import config # try removing it
import mod
print config.x
The example, such as shown in t
On May 16, 1:51 pm, Paul Carter wrote:
> We are using python for our build system. Each subproject dir has a
> python script that builds it. Parent dirs have python scripts that
> recurse into their children and use exec to invoke the python scripts.
> Recently we discovered that one of the python
I have no problem with threads
Using gmail in a browser.
That said I like how google groups handles email.
I am also ways having to fix the reply on this list to send back to the list
and not to the list and the last author. If someone knows a way to fix that
I would be happy to hear it.
Vincent
On 16 Maj, 20:52, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 2010-05-16 13:28 , OMS wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am quite new to Python and Qt and need very urgently advice on how
> > to update Qt progressBar while executing a process. I have went thrugh
> > number of 'google' stuff and saw different solution, hence none work
On May 16, 9:19 am, Ed Keith wrote:
> --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> wrote:
> > >> But what about the “freedom” to take away
> > other
> > >> people’s freedom? Is that really “freedom”?
>
> > > Yes.
>
> > But that’s a “freedom” that non-GPL licences do not
> > give you, that the GPL
On 16 Mai, 20:20, James Mills wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Krister Svanlund
>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> >> How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
> >> Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
>
On 5/16/2010 1:36 PM, Thomas wrote:
Greetings
I am having a darn awful time trying to update a matrix:
row = dict([(x,0) for x in range(3)])
matrix = dict([(x,row) for x in range(-3,4,1)])
matrix[2][1] += 1
matrix[-1][2] += 1
Dicts are fine for sparse matrixes, but when filled in, a list of
On 5/16/2010 11:35 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-05-16, cjw wrote:
On 16-May-10 01:31 AM, James Mills wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Aahz wrote:
It's also at least partly due to problems with mail<->news gateways and
the differing fields used to maintain threading.
Some blame
On May 16, 2:57 pm, CM wrote:
> > > I need help with getting the useful information how do I get the place
> > > if I don't now how long the string is?
>
> > And is it supposed to handle
>
> > for london give the weather to me
> > for the london weather give me
>
> > ...
>
> > I need help with getting the useful information how do I get the place
> > if I don't now how long the string is?
>
> And is it supposed to handle
>
> for london give the weather to me
> for the london weather give me
>
> ...
>
> Do a search on "natural language
On 2010-05-16 11:47 , Jim Byrnes wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-05-16, cjw wrote:
On 16-May-10 01:31 AM, James Mills wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Aahz wrote:
It's also at least partly due to problems with mail<->news gateways
and
the differing fields used to maintain threading
We are using python for our build system. Each subproject dir has a
python script that builds it. Parent dirs have python scripts that
recurse into their children and use exec to invoke the python scripts.
Recently we discovered that one of the python scripts works when
invoked directly, but fails
On 2010-05-16 13:28 , OMS wrote:
I am quite new to Python and Qt and need very urgently advice on how
to update Qt progressBar while executing a process. I have went thrugh
number of 'google' stuff and saw different solution, hence none worked
for me. The best idea I have seen is the usage of QTh
Chris
Wow, that was a very fast response.
Thank you, it works (of course)...
Cheers
"Chris Rebert" wrote in message
news:mailman.264.1274032106.32709.python-l...@python.org...
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Thomas wrote:
Greetings
I am having a darn awful time trying to update a matri
Irmen de Jong wrote:
On 16-5-2010 19:41, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
On May 14, 8:27 am, albert kao wrote:
On May 14, 11:01 am, J wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:53, albert kao wrote:
C:\python>rmdir.py
C:\test\com.comp.hw.prod.proj.war\bin
['.svn', 'com']
d .svn
dotd C:\test\com.comp.hw.pr
On 05/16/2010 02:38 PM, Alister wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:07:08 +0300, Tuomas Vesterinen wrote:
I am testing an application GUI with Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6. The native
Python (in Fedora 12) is 2.6. Versions 2.4 and 2.5 are alt-installed.
Aplication GUI uses:
import pygtk
pygtk.require('2.
I am quite new to Python and Qt and need very urgently advice on how
to update Qt progressBar while executing a process. I have went thrugh
number of 'google' stuff and saw different solution, hence none worked
for me. The best idea I have seen is the usage of QThread and emiting
signal from thread
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:00 AM, Krister Svanlund
wrote:
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM, AON LAZIO wrote:
>> How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
>> Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
>> Think of it as a global variable in a single .
On 05/16/2010 05:04 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
(You forgot to include the python-list in your response. So it only
went to me. Normally, you just do reply-all to the message)
mannu jha wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:52:31 +0530 wrote
mannu jha wrote:
Hi,
I have few files like this:
file1:
22
Chris Rebert wrote:
> Nested comprehensions may be hard to understand, so you may wish to
> write it using a function instead:
>
> def make_row():
> return dict([(x,0) for x in range(3)])
>
> matrix = dict([(x,make_row()) for x in range(-3,4,1)])
Another way to skin the cat:
>>> row = dict.fro
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:50 AM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
> Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
> Think of it as a global variable in a single .py file but this is for the
> entire application.
Thank
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:50 PM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
> Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
> Think of it as a global variable in a single .py file but this is for the
> entire application.
> Th
On 16-5-2010 19:41, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
On May 14, 8:27 am, albert kao wrote:
On May 14, 11:01 am, J wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:53, albert kao wrote:
C:\python>rmdir.py
C:\test\com.comp.hw.prod.proj.war\bin
['.svn', 'com']
d .svn
dotd C:\test\com.comp.hw.prod.proj.war\bin\.svn
T
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:50 AM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
> Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
> Think of it as a global variable in a single .py file but this is for the
> entire application.
If you
Thomas ha scritto:
Greetings
I am having a darn awful time trying to update a matrix:
row = dict([(x,0) for x in range(3)])
matrix = dict([(x,row) for x in range(-3,4,1)])
matrix[2][1] += 1
matrix[-1][2] += 1
"""
Got: a 1 in all col 1 and 2
{-3: {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 1},
-2: {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 1},
-
Hi,
How can I set up global variables for the entire python applications?
Like I can call and set this variables in any .py files.
Think of it as a global variable in a single .py file but this is for the
entire application.
Thanks
--
Aonlazio
'Peace is always the way.' NW
--
http://mai
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Thomas wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I am having a darn awful time trying to update a matrix:
>
> row = dict([(x,0) for x in range(3)])
> matrix = dict([(x,row) for x in range(-3,4,1)])
All the columns refer to the very same row dict (`row` obviously).
Python doesn't do
On May 14, 8:27 am, albert kao wrote:
> On May 14, 11:01 am, J wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:53, albert kao wrote:
>
> > > C:\python>rmdir.py
> > > C:\test\com.comp.hw.prod.proj.war\bin
> > > ['.svn', 'com']
> > > d .svn
> > > dotd C:\test\com.comp.hw.prod.proj.war\bin\.svn
> > > T
Greetings
I am having a darn awful time trying to update a matrix:
row = dict([(x,0) for x in range(3)])
matrix = dict([(x,row) for x in range(-3,4,1)])
matrix[2][1] += 1
matrix[-1][2] += 1
"""
Got: a 1 in all col 1 and 2
{-3: {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 1},
-2: {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 1},
-1: {0: 0, 1: 1, 2: 1}
* 2010-05-15 09:42 (-0700), travis wrote:
> PS: Why do people call LISP object-oriented? Are they smoking crack?
> No classes, no methods, no member variables... WTF?
Maybe because Common Lisp has a strong support for object-oriented
programming.
Peter Seibel: Practical Common Lisp
Ge
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2010-05-16, cjw wrote:
On 16-May-10 01:31 AM, James Mills wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Aahz wrote:
It's also at least partly due to problems with mail<->news gateways and
the differing fields used to maintain threading.
Some blame goes on MUAs too :)
T
cjw writes:
> Is it possible to connect a newsreader to gmane?
http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2005/01/14/gmane-mail-to-news.html
> Is Thunderbird known to have problems?
It worked good for me, but that was 5+ years ago. (Time flies)
--
John Bokma
Martin v. Loewis, 16.05.2010 11:05:
Maybe true technically, but false in practice. If I receive XML data
from source XYZ or service XYZ the use of namespaces and their prefixes
is extremely consistent [in practice] and very customary (for example:
I've never seen the DSML namespace abbreviated a
On 2010-05-16, cjw wrote:
> On 16-May-10 01:31 AM, James Mills wrote:
>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Aahz wrote:
>>> It's also at least partly due to problems with mail<->news gateways and
>>> the differing fields used to maintain threading.
>>
>> Some blame goes on MUAs too :)
>
> Thanks fo
On 16-May-10 01:31 AM, James Mills wrote:
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Aahz wrote:
It's also at least partly due to problems with mail<->news gateways and
the differing fields used to maintain threading.
Some blame goes on MUAs too :)
Thanks for the responses.
Is it possible to connect
In article ,
Chris Rebert wrote:
>
>--
>
That's not funny. I'm sure I'd have little difficulty finding poor
programmers of whatever demographic groups you belong to. Or perhaps you
haven't noticed that PEBKACs are everywhere?
--
Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pyt
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
wrote:
> From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> Subject: Re: Picking a license
> To: python-list@python.org
> Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 11:06 PM
> In message ,
> Ed Keith
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> >
> wrote:
> >
> >> In message ,
(You forgot to include the python-list in your response. So it only
went to me. Normally, you just do reply-all to the message)
mannu jha wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:52:31 +0530 wrote
mannu jha wrote:
Hi,
I have few files like this:
file1:
22 110.1
33 331.5 2
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Robert Kern wrote:
> From: Robert Kern
> Subject: Re: Picking a license
> To: python-list@python.org
> Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:10 PM
> On 2010-05-14 21:37 , Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:42:31 -0700, Ed Keith wrote:
> >
> >> I am not a lawyer,
Note: Forwarded message attached
-- Original Message --
From: "mannu jha"mannu_0...@rediffmail.com
To: da...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Re: joining files--- Begin Message ---
On Sun, 16 May 2010 13:52:31 +0530 wrote
>mannu jha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have few files like this:
> file1:
> 22 110.1
> 3
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:07:08 +0300, Tuomas Vesterinen wrote:
> I am testing an application GUI with Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6. The native
> Python (in Fedora 12) is 2.6. Versions 2.4 and 2.5 are alt-installed.
>
> Aplication GUI uses:
> import pygtk
> pygtk.require('2.0')
> import gtk
> import gobj
On May 15, 3:41 am, Dave Angel wrote:
> cerr wrote:
> > Hi There,
>
> > I got following code:
> > start=time.time()
> > print 'warnTimeout '+str(WarnTimeout)
> > print 'critTimeout '+str(CritTimeout)
> > print 'start',str(start)
> > while wait:
> > passed = time.time()-start
> > print 'pa
I am testing an application GUI with Python 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6. The native
Python (in Fedora 12) is 2.6. Versions 2.4 and 2.5 are alt-installed.
Aplication GUI uses:
import pygtk
pygtk.require('2.0')
import gtk
import gobject
I go to:
$ cd /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages
and say:
$ sudo l
> Maybe true technically, but false in practice. If I receive XML data
> from source XYZ or service XYZ the use of namespaces and their prefixes
> is extremely consistent [in practice] and very customary (for example:
> I've never seen the DSML namespace abbreviated as anything other than
> "dsml"
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:32 AM, AON LAZIO wrote:
> Hi,
> Say I have an application which requires a global settings for the user.
> When the user finishes setting those global variables for the app. Any class
> can use that variables (which are the same for all), something like that.
> What is
mannu jha wrote:
Hi,
I have few files like this:
file1:
22 110.1
33 331.5 22.7
5 271.9 17.2 33.4
4 55.1
file1 has total 4 column but some of them are missing in few row.
file2:
5 H
22 0
file3:
4 T
5 B
22 C
121 S
in all these files first column is the main source of matching their entrie
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:02 AM, mannu jha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have few files like this:
> file1:
> 22 110.1
> 33 331.5 22.7
> 5 271.9 17.2 33.4
> 4 55.1
>
> file1 has total 4 column but some of them are missing in few row.
>
> file2:
> 5 H
> 22 0
>
> file3:
> 4 T
> 5 B
> 22 C
> 121 S
>
> in all t
Jake b, 16.05.2010 09:40:
Check out Amara: http://www.xml3k.org/Amara/QuickRef
It looks promising. For a pythonic solution over sax / dom.
>>> Iter(doc.team.player)
# or
>>> doc.team.player[0].name
Ah, right, and there's also lxml.objectify:
from lxml.objectify import parse
root = p
Hi,
I released Oktest 0.3.0.
http://packages.python.org/Oktest/
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Oktest/
Overview
Oktest is a new-style testing library for Python.
::
from oktest import ok
ok (x) > 0 # same as assert_(x > 0)
ok (s) == 'foo'# same as
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:02 PM, mannu jha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have few files like this:
> file1:
> 22 110.1
> 33 331.5 22.7
> 5 271.9 17.2 33.4
> 4 55.1
>
> file1 has total 4 column but some of them are missing in few row.
>
> file2:
> 5 H
> 22 0
>
> file3:
> 4 T
> 5 B
> 22 C
> 121 S
>
> in all th
Check out Amara: http://www.xml3k.org/Amara/QuickRef
It looks promising. For a pythonic solution over sax / dom.
>>> Iter(doc.team.player)
# or
>>> doc.team.player[0].name
[ new to the list, so I'm not sure why my previous response failed. Is
it on me? Because using iPod, vs thunderbird?
Howeve
Martin v. Loewis, 16.05.2010 09:07:
the approach that the OP is apparently trying to follow is
clearly misguided.
I completely agree. However, I recommend that we let him find out on his
own. I suspect he has some idiomatic usage of XML, perhaps with all
namespace prefixes defined in the root
> Well, there's an "nsmap" property on each Element that provides the
> mapping of prefixes to namespace URIs that form the scope of the
> Element. However, while this is what the OP asked for, it is not what
> the OP wants, simply because it doesn't solve the problem.
Well, it solves the problem
Hi,
I have few files like this:
file1:
22 110.1
33 331.5 22.7
5 271.9 17.2 33.4
4 55.1
file1 has total 4 column but some of them are missing in few row.
file2:
5 H
22 0
file3:
4 T
5 B
22 C
121 S
in all these files first column is the main source of matching their entries.
So What I want i
Adam Tauno Williams, 15.05.2010 23:04:
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 22:58 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Adam Tauno Williams, 15.05.2010 22:40:
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 22:29 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Adam Tauno Williams, 15.05.2010 20:37:
Say I have an XML document that begins with:
http://www.dsml.or
Adam Tauno Williams, 16.05.2010 06:00:
Given that XML documents can be very large I'd rather avoid a parsing of
the document [beyond what lxml/etree] has already done] just to retrieve
the namespaces and their prefixes.
In order to find out which prefixes are used in the document and which set
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