Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-05, Paul Rubin wrote: > Tim Harig writes: >> A friend was trying to derive a mathematical formula for determining >> the possibly distribution of results from rolling arbitrariy numbers >> of m n-sided dice > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_distribution I sure he redisc

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 04:13:02 +, Tim Harig wrote: > Anything it is an obvious > error *should* throw an exception. Well, maybe... there are good use-cases for returning a sentinel. E.g. str.find, or the use of quiet NANs in IEEE floating point and decimal maths. NANs and INFs in floating po

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Paul Rubin
Tim Harig writes: > A friend was trying to derive a mathematical formula for determining > the possibly distribution of results from rolling arbitrariy numbers > of m n-sided dice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_distribution > To generate a listing of all (non-uniq) possible roles,

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-05, Tim Harig wrote: > Another, questionable but useful use, is to ignore the complex accounting > of your position inside of a complex data structure. You can continue > moving through the structure until an exception is raised indicating > that you have reached a boundary of the stru

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 12/4/10 3:43 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: I do not see a good reason for not using Sqlite3 BUT if for some reason would not be an option what plain schema of files would you use? Would shelve work? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Tim Harig
On 2010-12-05, Harishankar wrote: >> Or consider this code: >> >> if y != 0: >> result = x/y >> else: >> handle_division_by_zero() >> >> >> This is also unsafe unless you know the type of y. Suppose y is an >> interval quantity that straddles zero, then division by y may fail even >> th

Re: PIL how to enlarge image

2010-12-04 Thread Tim Roberts
robos85 wrote: > >Hi, I try to enlarge original image. >I have image in size: 100x100 and I want to make it 120x120. >But resize() doesn't make it bigger. Is there any method for that? "resize" does not change the image. Instead, it returns the resized image. If you don't need the original any m

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Re: Unknown function operation deciphering, exercise in readability by program reasoning

2010-12-04 Thread jvt
On Dec 4, 4:49 pm, Barb Knox wrote: > In article > <46365e1d-42d8-4b3b-8e69-941472467...@u25g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, >  small Pox wrote: > > > Rules : > > No need to add any additional hurdles -- the code as presented is > thoroughly unreadable by humans. > > > @1@  No execution of the functio

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Harishankar
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:59:27 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Of course, this is mainly of theoretical concern. In practice, "Look > Before You Leap" (test first, then process) is often fine. But there are > traps to look out for. For example, unless you are running a single- > process machine, the

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. Understood perfectly. Will forget other alternatives. Sqlite3 is the best option. Thanks for the explanation and time. Sqlite for single user and Postgresql will be the choice. Thanks all. Take care Jorge Biquez At 06:01 p.m. 04/12/2010, you wrote: Jorge Biquez writes: > I d

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:07:45 +, Harishankar wrote: > I find a bit cumbersome > that exceptions are advocated for certain conditions which can be sanely > worked around in the application's logic and even avoided, rather than > waiting for them to get caught and providing an unsatisfactory resu

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/4/2010 12:07 PM, Harishankar wrote: Of course not. But going by the replies here, it appears that Python has made exceptions as the "norm" for error handling which is ironical considering the meaning of the word "exception". In communications parlance, 'exception' = out-of-band signal or

Re: How do I get the email address of the person who clicked the link in the email?

2010-12-04 Thread Xavier Ho
As a suggestion, you can auto-format your email link so that the email of the user is sent as part of the URL GET argument. Cheers, Xav On 5 December 2010 08:15, Zeynel wrote: > Hello, > > I am working with Google App Engine python version. The app sends an > email to the user with a link to a

SunLisp: A new Lisp drinking society in Ft Lauderdale, FL debuting 7PM, Pearl Harbor Day

2010-12-04 Thread kenny
In case you missed it, SunLisp is debuting on Pearl Harbor Day (December 7th) at 7PM. It's been added to the Lisp Meetings Calendar as well. Who: His Kennyness, his CIO Dan (can you say "Lisp jobs"? Sher ya can) and a notable group of Lispers doing a nice project in FL and anyone who cares to joi

How do I get the email address of the person who clicked the link in the email?

2010-12-04 Thread Zeynel
Hello, I am working with Google App Engine python version. The app sends an email to the user with a link to a page to upload an image as an avatar. It would be nice to have the email so that I can associate the avatar with that email. How can I do this? Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Ben Finney
Jorge Biquez writes: > I do not see a good reason for not using Sqlite3 BUT if for some > reason would not be an option what plain schema of files would you > use? I am sorry to insist. SQLite stores the entire database in a single file. Does that answer the question? I'm not sure I understa

Re: Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread Gnarlodious
After many curse words I figured it out. A two-stage filter was needed. The 5th line solves the problem of colliding domain cookies: NowCookie=http.cookies.SimpleCookie() # Instantiate a SimpleCookie object savedCookie=os.environ.get('HTTP_COOKIE') # get the cookie string if savedCookie: # Alread

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread CM
On Dec 4, 6:43 pm, Jorge Biquez wrote: > At 05:02 p.m. 04/12/2010, you wrote: > > > > >Jorge Biquez writes: > > > > Hello all. > > > > Newbie question. Sorry. > > > > As part of my process to learn python I am working on two personal > > > applications. Both will do it fine with a simple structur

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Biquez
At 05:02 p.m. 04/12/2010, you wrote: Jorge Biquez writes: > Hello all. > > Newbie question. Sorry. > > As part of my process to learn python I am working on two personal > applications. Both will do it fine with a simple structure of data > stored in files. I now there are lot of databases arou

Re: [Tutor] Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Brett Ritter
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Newbie question. Sorry. If it isn't you're on the wrong list :) > training so no pressure on performance). One application will run as a > desktop one,under Windows, Linux, Macintosh, being able to update data, not > much, not complex, not ma

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Gnarlodious
I use sqlite3, it is fairly simple, fast and not too strict. -- Gnarlie -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
Jorge Biquez writes: > Hello all. > > Newbie question. Sorry. > > As part of my process to learn python I am working on two personal > applications. Both will do it fine with a simple structure of data > stored in files. I now there are lot of databases around I can use but > I would like to know

Re: Backup postgresql database from python

2010-12-04 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:32 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:12:08 + > starglider develop wrote: >> I need to backup a postgresql database from python withour using pg_dump! >> Is any way of doing that? > > Probably. I guess the first question is why can't you use pg_dump? >

Which non SQL Database ?

2010-12-04 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. Newbie question. Sorry. As part of my process to learn python I am working on two personal applications. Both will do it fine with a simple structure of data stored in files. I now there are lot of databases around I can use but I would like to know yoor advice on what other option

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Re: Unknown function operation deciphering, exercise in readability by program reasoning

2010-12-04 Thread Barb Knox
In article <46365e1d-42d8-4b3b-8e69-941472467...@u25g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, small Pox wrote: > Rules : No need to add any additional hurdles -- the code as presented is thoroughly unreadable by humans. > @1@ No execution of the function, only checking syntax What about "desk checking"

Re: Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread MRAB
On 04/12/2010 21:13, Gnarlodious wrote: What you posted doesn't work, I don't know why. All I get is a blank page and no Apache error report. There are two problems with this. I am really trying to figure out how to trap an error on the server without exposing my innards to the world, which impo

Re: Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread Gnarlodious
What you posted doesn't work, I don't know why. All I get is a blank page and no Apache error report. There are two problems with this. I am really trying to figure out how to trap an error on the server without exposing my innards to the world, which import cgitb; cgitb.enable() does. The other p

Re: Google AI challenge: planet war. Lisp won.

2010-12-04 Thread Red John
> > Yeah, riiight.  So it's a crime to have any fun in life, right?  Go get > a life. > > -- Benjamin L. Russell +1 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread MRAB
On 04/12/2010 18:33, Gnarlodious wrote: I have a serious error that causes the process to crash. Apache refuses to log the error and it only happens on the server, not on the dev machine. Problem is, I can't figure out how to get the most recent error. I can find all sorts of pages telling how to

Re: Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread Dan Stromberg
I've sometimes got similar situations in CGI, that turned out to be because of a syntax error that kept apache from being able to run the script. What if you just run the script at the command line? It should either error out due to lack of a CGI environment/arguments, but hopefully it'll give yo

Re: Backup postgresql database from python

2010-12-04 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:12:08 + starglider develop wrote: > I need to backup a postgresql database from python withour using pg_dump! > Is any way of doing that? Probably. I guess the first question is why can't you use pg_dump? That might give us a clue as to the requirements. Any other deta

Backup postgresql database from python

2010-12-04 Thread starglider develop
Hi, I need to backup a postgresql database from python withour using pg_dump! Is any way of doing that? Thank you in advance for your help. Zorze -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Google AI challenge: planet war. Lisp won.

2010-12-04 Thread Benjamin L. Russell
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Print recent CGI error

2010-12-04 Thread Gnarlodious
I have a serious error that causes the process to crash. Apache refuses to log the error and it only happens on the server, not on the dev machine. Problem is, I can't figure out how to get the most recent error. I can find all sorts of pages telling how to print a specific error, but how to get an

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:07:45 + (UTC) Harishankar wrote: > Of course not. But going by the replies here, it appears that Python has > made exceptions as the "norm" for error handling which is ironical > considering the meaning of the word "exception". I find a bit cumbersome > that exceptions

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Harishankar
> You appear to be suffering from the delusion that all exceptions must be > caught and handled. This is far from being the case. But still, better > to have your top-level code "littered with exception handlers" than to > have your functions "littered with if statements". Of course not. But going

Re: Comparison with False - something I don't understand

2010-12-04 Thread Steve Holden
On 12/2/2010 11:42 PM, Harishankar wrote: > One of the reasons why I feared to do this is because I need to know each > and every exception that might be thrown by the function and litter my > top-level code with too many exception handlers. > You appear to be suffering from the delusion that al

Re: A web site using Python

2010-12-04 Thread hidura
I am working on a tool that can create an application like that without write server code, but the system is write in Python3.1 On Dec 4, 2010 9:32am, Virgil Stokes wrote: I would like to design a web site that can be used to help people to find a cat that they can adopt. Note, this is

Re: class attribute confusion

2010-12-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:00:43 +0100, Omar Abo-Namous wrote: >>> I think this behaviour is totally wrong, since it seems >>> A.__init__(self) is changing the value inside of A() not inside of the >>> object variable 'self' (that should be x or y)!! >> It's not wrong at all. You expect "mylist" to b

Re: class attribute confusion

2010-12-04 Thread Omar Abo-Namous
Am 03.12.2010 23:11, schrieb Arnaud Delobelle: OAN writes: Hi, i was having a problem with class attributes initiated outside of __init__. This code is a demonstration of what i mean: class A(): mylist = [] def __init__(self): self.mylist.append(1) pass class B(A

A web site using Python

2010-12-04 Thread Virgil Stokes
I would like to design a web site that can be used to help people to find a cat that they can adopt. Note, this is a non-profit project, but one that I believe to be quite important. Here are some of my initial thoughts on this project. /Site purpose:/ *To provide a web site for anyone to look

Re: PIL how to enlarge image

2010-12-04 Thread Alain Ketterlin
robos85 writes: > Hi, I try to enlarge original image. > I have image in size: 100x100 and I want to make it 120x120. > But resize() doesn't make it bigger. Is there any method for that? You have to use i.transform() -- Alain. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: import module doesn't work for new package

2010-12-04 Thread Peter Otten
goldtech wrote: > I tried install a Python - would the word be "package"? - on Ubuntu > 10.10. Could you tell me how to fix? I would be grateful, is it a path > problem? Thanks. Lee If you are talking about http://paul.giannaros.org/pykhtml/ , this package requires kde3 while you are /probably/

PIL how to enlarge image

2010-12-04 Thread robos85
Hi, I try to enlarge original image. I have image in size: 100x100 and I want to make it 120x120. But resize() doesn't make it bigger. Is there any method for that? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: position independent build of python

2010-12-04 Thread erikj
On Dec 3, 5:05 pm, de...@web.de (Diez B. Roggisch) wrote: > erikj writes: > > If my understanding is correct, the sys.prefix variable holds the root > > directory python uses to find related files, and eg its site-packages. > > > the value of sys.prefix is specified at compile time. > > > it seems