ANN: numexpr 1.4.2 released

2011-01-26 Thread Francesc Alted
== Announcing Numexpr 1.4.2 == Numexpr is a fast numerical expression evaluator for NumPy. With it, expressions that operate on arrays (like 3*a+4*b) are accelerated and use less memory than doing the same calculation in Python. What's new

Next python barcamp by pycologne

2011-01-26 Thread Reimar Bauer
For english speaking people: We organize a PythonCamp on 16/17th of April in Cologne (Germany) Hallo liebe Pythonfreunde, die Python User Group Köln (http://pycologne.de), die monatlich am RRZK tagt, veranstaltet am Samstag, den 16.04.2011 und Sonntag den 17.04.2011 das PythonCamp 2011 in Köln.

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com On 1/25/2011 3:33 PM rantingrick said... Tkinter is old and in many ways insufficient for 21st century GUIs. We need to decide what should come next. I believe wxPython is our best hope. Wx may not be the best it can be, but it is the best we have at this

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com Are third party installations nonsense? Or should python come with all libraries for all potential applications? And then always keep up with best of breed? Python should not include all the libraries for all the potential applications, but it should

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: geremy condra debat...@gmail.com There's a difference between what you say and how you say it. If a friend came up to you and said give me $100 right now!, you probably wouldn't do it. If the same friend came up to you and said I know this is a big thing to ask, but I really need $100 and

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Nicholas Devenish misno...@gmail.com Octavian, we get it - you are on the warpath about accessibility. And this is, in a way, a good thing, because, yes, programmers should in general think more about accessibility when designing their programs. But nobody was ever persuaded to consider

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info Quality code is a good thing, but there are people who write good code but are so obnoxious that you wouldn't listen to a word they have to say, and people who are only mediocre or average coders, but are otherwise helpful and friendly.

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 1/25/11 8:21 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: TL;DR. The shorter version: stop being a dick, and people will treat you seriously. I actually read the original list, and agreed with every point. But this concise summary spells it out perfectly. Stop being a dick, rick. -- Stephen Hansen

Re: Need GUI pop-up to edit a (unicode ?) string

2011-01-26 Thread Terry Reedy
On 1/26/2011 2:11 AM, rantingrick wrote: On Jan 26, 12:53 am, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote: I only see self.wait_window(self) in the Dialog base class and not in SimpleDialog, which is what I though you were talking about. It is the last line of Dialog.__init__. Yes. In the module

Re: A and B but not C in list

2011-01-26 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: On 1/23/2011 4:05 PM, CM wrote: In Python, is there a recommended way to write conditionals of the form: if A and B but not C or D in my list, do something. ? I may also have variations on this, like if A but not B, C, or D. Do I have to just write

Syntax help

2011-01-26 Thread sl33k_
How to read syntax like this given in the documentation of python? (Newbie) defparameter ::= parameter [= expression] http://docs.python.org/reference/compound_stmts.html#function-definitions -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Finding the right Python executable on Windows

2011-01-26 Thread Geoff Bache
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 04:25, Geoff Bache geoff.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a Python process on Windows and would like to start a Python subprocess using the same interpreter. I wonder how to go about

Re: trouble installing MySQLdb (cygwin) + Bonus question

2011-01-26 Thread John Nagle
On 1/25/2011 3:51 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: On Jan 25, 6:20 pm, David Robinowdrobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Matthew Rothmgrot...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 25, 9:34 pm, John Naglena...@animats.com wrote: ... You can install a MySQL server under Windows, and

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rusi
On Jan 26, 11:18 am, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com On Jan 25, 3:41 pm, Corey Richardson kb1...@aim.com wrote: Do you honestly think he was talking about the accessibility problem? IMO that should move to another thread, because this one

Re: Syntax help

2011-01-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:08:41 -0800, sl33k_ wrote: How to read syntax like this given in the documentation of python? (Newbie) defparameter ::= parameter [= expression] http://docs.python.org/reference/compound_stmts.html#function- definitions See here for an explanation:

Re: Syntax help

2011-01-26 Thread c...@thansen.de
On 26.01.2011 09:08, sl33k_ wrote: How to read syntax like this given in the documentation of python? (Newbie) defparameter ::= parameter [= expression] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus-Naur_Form -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Behaviour-based interface/protocol implementation?

2011-01-26 Thread Alan Franzoni
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: This is correct! print(len(mo)) TypeError: object of type 'MyObj' has no len() That's interesting. I must admit I was not thinking about special methods in my original post, I used that example just because of Chris

Convert XML to SQL

2011-01-26 Thread Johann Spies
I an not a Python newbie but working with xml is new to me. I get data through a soap connection, using suds, and want to convert that to objects which I can use to populate a rather complex database. I have been able to parse the xml using tree = etree.iterparse(infile,events=(start,end)) but

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: rusi rustompm...@gmail.com On Jan 26, 11:18 am, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com On Jan 25, 3:41 pm, Corey Richardson kb1...@aim.com wrote: Do you honestly think he was talking about the accessibility problem? IMO that should move to

Re: Convert XML to SQL

2011-01-26 Thread Stefan Behnel
Johann Spies, 26.01.2011 10:07: I an not a Python newbie but working with xml is new to me. I get data through a soap connection, using suds, and want to convert that to objects which I can use to populate a rather complex database. Your problem description is pretty comprehensive in general.

Re: List behaviours with Clustering Algorithm

2011-01-26 Thread Peter Otten
James Ravenscroft wrote: I can't run your code because you didn't make it standalone, Thanks for the heads up, I've made a simple version of the clusterer which you can view on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/7HmAkmfj If you have time to look through my code I would be very grateful!

Re: Syntax help

2011-01-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
sl33k_ wrote: How to read syntax like this given in the documentation of python? (Newbie) defparameter ::= parameter [= expression] http://docs.python.org/reference/compound_stmts.html#function-definitions Just in case you're about to learn python using these defintions: Nobody's

Re: Convert XML to SQL

2011-01-26 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 26.01.2011 10:29: Johann Spies, 26.01.2011 10:07: I an not a Python newbie but working with xml is new to me. I get data through a soap connection, using suds, and want to convert that to objects which I can use to populate a rather complex database. Your problem description

Re: python interpreter

2011-01-26 Thread Dave Angel
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, nair rajiv wrote: Hi, I was exploring python. I wanted to know more about the python interpreter i.e the technical details of how it has been written. If I am directed to the code that also will be fine. The implementation of python data structures lists, tuples and

Re: Convert XML to SQL

2011-01-26 Thread Johann Spies
On 26 January 2011 12:51, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: The example you sent me is almost perfect for lxml.objectify. Basically, you'd do something like this: Thank you very much. You have helped me a lot. Regards Johann -- May grace and peace be yours in abundance through the

Re: Convert XML to SQL

2011-01-26 Thread Stefan Behnel
Johann Spies, 26.01.2011 13:22: On 26 January 2011 12:51, Stefan Behnel wrote: The example you sent me is almost perfect for lxml.objectify. Basically, you'd do something like this: Thank you very much. You have helped me a lot. You're welcome. If you have any suggestions how to improve

Re: Syntax help

2011-01-26 Thread Tim Chase
On 01/26/2011 04:05 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: How to read syntax like this given in the documentation of python? (Newbie) defparameter ::= parameter [= expression] Just in case you're about to learn python using these defintions: Nobody's learning a syntax that way. They are not

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
I don't know why you didn't say this before. Comprehention, Octavian. I've made that point multiple times, but your to stuck on talking about how selfish people are. The other part of the discussion is related to the accessibility and care for accessibility and that discussion is not nice at

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com I don't know why you didn't say this before. Comprehention, Octavian. I've made that point multiple times, but your to stuck on talking about how selfish people are. You didn't say that WxPython can't be used with Python 3. Have you said that?

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com I don't know why you didn't say this before. Comprehention, Octavian. I've made that point multiple times, but your to stuck on talking about how selfish people are. You didn't say that WxPython doesn't work on Python 3, so I don't know what you

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/25/2011 5:07 PM rantingrick said... On Jan 25, 6:55 pm, Emile van Sebilleem...@fenx.com wrote: Oh, that everyone should blindly accept you as is and without regard for established protocols What protocols? Where is this standard posted? Can you give me a link? I would like to know what

Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread bansi
I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following code snippet idf = sys.argv[1] namef = sys.argv[2] real_script = C:\\Splunk\\etc\\apps\\search\\bin\\namelookup.py r =

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
with JAWS because it is the most used screen reader. Get off your me soapbox. Jaws is not the most used. NVDA is taking over, quite fast, and lots of people have totally switched to mac or Vinux because of the problems with Jaws. It's most used in corporate sektors still maybe, but lots of

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/25/2011 10:08 PM Octavian Rasnita said... From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com Why is WxPython ineligible? I think Terry's point was compatibility with python3 -- which wx apparently isn't yet. Emile Well, I didn't know this, and it is a valid reason. This means that it is true

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Bryan
On Jan 26, 9:47 am, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: I couldn't find the word soapbox in the dictionary so I don't know what it means. I guess that not the soap + box. Please be more clear and not talk like the high school kids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapbox --

Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
I just installed Python 3,0 on my machine. I cannot use 3.0 exclusively yet however i was interested in just poking around and acquiring a taste if you will. I was happy to find that the new Tkinter module names now follow convention and are placed correctly... example: tkinter.simpledialog

Re: adding Print menu in wxPython

2011-01-26 Thread Akand Islam
On Jan 26, 12:54 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 26, 12:19 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: Actually i found more cruft. Here is something that would be acceptable although i had to wrap lines shorter than i normally would for the sake of Usenet. Who ever wrote

Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ??? Options

2011-01-26 Thread Bansilal Haudakari
I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following code snippet idf = sys.argv[1] namef = sys.argv[2] real_script = C:\\Splunk\\etc\\apps\\search\\bin\\namelookup.py r =

Re: Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 7:51 AM bansi said... I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following code snippet idf = sys.argv[1] namef = sys.argv[2] real_script =

open() mode args

2011-01-26 Thread mpnordland
What is the correct file mode to pass to open() when I want to both read and write on the open file? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 1/26/11 10:00 AM, Emile van Sebille wrote: On 1/25/2011 10:08 PM Octavian Rasnita said... From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com Why is WxPython ineligible? I think Terry's point was compatibility with python3 -- which wx apparently isn't yet. Emile Well, I didn't know this, and it is

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 8:00 AM rantingrick said... I just installed Python 3,0 on my machine. Try it again on the current release candidate -- http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2/ -- testing old first release code and reporting on its problems won't get any traction. Verify the problem

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 22, 6:07 pm, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: ---  Challenge 1: (Simple Directory Viewer) --- Create a simple Directory Viewer GUI. You CANNOT use a treectrl!  The point of this challenge is to show that

Re: open() mode args

2011-01-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:32:03 -0500, mpnordland wrote: What is the correct file mode to pass to open() when I want to both read and write on the open file? open(filename, r+) for text mode, r+b for binary mode. If your operating system does not distinguish between the two, you can use either.

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 10:43 am, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: On 1/26/2011 8:00 AM rantingrick said... I just installed Python 3,0 on my machine. Try it again on the current release candidate --http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2/-- testing old first

method-to-instance binding, callable generator decorator

2011-01-26 Thread Jack Bates
Am struggling to understand Python method-to-instance binding Anyone know why this example throws a TypeError? #!/usr/bin/env python import functools # Take a generator function (i.e. a callable which returns a generator) and # return a callable which calls .send() class coroutine:

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Tommy Grav
On Jan 26, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: You didn't say that WxPython can't be used with Python 3. Have you said that? Some besides Peter pointed this out a few days ago. The other part of the discussion is related to the accessibility and care for accessibility and that

Re: Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread bansi
On Jan 26, 11:30 am, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: On 1/26/2011 7:51 AM bansi said... I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following code snippet idf =

Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Gerald Britton
I'm looking at extended slicing and wondering when and how to use slice lists: slicing ::= simple_slicing | extended_slicing simple_slicing ::= primary [ short_slice ] extended_slicing ::= primary [ slice_list ] slice_list ::= slice_item (, slice_item)* [,] slice_item

Re: open() mode args

2011-01-26 Thread mpnordland
thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: method-to-instance binding, callable generator decorator

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 9:04 AM Jack Bates said... Am struggling to understand Python method-to-instance binding Anyone know why this example throws a TypeError? #!/usr/bin/env python import functools # Take a generator function (i.e. a callable which returns a generator) and # return a

Re: adding Print menu in wxPython

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 10:07 am, Akand Islam sohel...@gmail.com wrote: I really appreciate your cooperation. The codes you have written print in command window, but I want to print (i.e. a popup window will appear to select printer in order to print). Please assist me regarding this. Ok, read on... I

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com That's not Terry's point. The reasons he's referring to (and stated previously) are as follows: 1. The license of wxWidgets and wxPython is not as permissive as Python's. The Python developers, as a matter of policy, do not want to include code

Re: Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Gerald Britton gerald.brit...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at extended slicing and wondering when and how to use slice lists: slicing          ::=  simple_slicing | extended_slicing simple_slicing   ::=  primary [ short_slice ] extended_slicing ::=  primary [

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com ... Well, I didn't know this, and it is a valid reason. This means that it is true that there is no enough maintainance force to keep WxPython updated. Did I understand correctly? Not at all -- wxPython is an active funded ongoing project. Review the

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 26, 10:43 am, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: On 1/26/2011 8:00 AM rantingrick said... I just installed Python 3,0 on my machine. Try it again on the current release candidate

Re: method-to-instance binding, callable generator decorator

2011-01-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
Jack Bates wrote: Am struggling to understand Python method-to-instance binding Anyone know why this example throws a TypeError? #!/usr/bin/env python import functools # Take a generator function (i.e. a callable which returns a generator) and # return a callable which calls .send()

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Tommy Grav tg...@mac.com You didn't say that WxPython can't be used with Python 3. Have you said that? Some besides Peter pointed this out a few days ago. I don't remember to have read that. But who knows, maybe I have missed it. Does anyone have that message? Python 2 is in bug-fix

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com with JAWS because it is the most used screen reader. Get off your me soapbox. Jaws is not the most used. NVDA is taking over, quite fast, and lots of people have totally switched to mac or Vinux Lots of people means an insignifiant percent of

Re: Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 1/26/11 11:20 AM, Gerald Britton wrote: I'm looking at extended slicing and wondering when and how to use slice lists: slicing ::= simple_slicing | extended_slicing simple_slicing ::= primary [ short_slice ] extended_slicing ::= primary [ slice_list ] slice_list ::=

Re: Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Gerald Britton gerald.brit...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking at extended slicing and wondering when and how to use slice lists: slicing          ::=  simple_slicing | extended_slicing simple_slicing   ::=  primary [ short_slice ] extended_slicing ::=  primary [

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 10:35 am, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/26/11 10:00 AM, Emile van Sebille wrote: That's not Terry's point. The reasons he's referring to (and stated previously) are as follows: 1. The license of wxWidgets and wxPython is not as permissive as Python's. The Python

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread Jerry Hill
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: Why would i want to waste bandwidth downloading an RC? Can i not just browse the source online? If I understand what you're asking for, the answer is http://svn.python.org/view . If you're specifically looking for

Re: Slice lists and extended slicing

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 9:20 AM Gerald Britton said... I'm looking at extended slicing and wondering when and how to use slice lists: I think the use of the term slice_list below is simply as the content between the encompassing brackets, eg in mylist[1:2:3] slice_list refers to 1:2:3. So, you don't

Re: Behaviour-based interface/protocol implementation?

2011-01-26 Thread Daniel Urban
That's just what I'd like and I suppose can't be currently done with current ABC, PyProtocols or zope.interface implementations, right? It can. With __instancecheck__ you can override isinstance. It is possible (for example) to write a subclass of abc.ABCMeta, which extends __instancecheck__ to

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread geremy condra
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: geremy condra debat...@gmail.com There's a difference between what you say and how you say it. If a friend came up to you and said give me $100 right now!, you probably wouldn't do it. If the same friend came

Re: Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:51 AM, bansi mail2ba...@gmail.com wrote: I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following code snippet idf = sys.argv[1] namef = sys.argv[2]

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread Nick Stinemates
However some things never change it seems and some improvements are actually a step backwards. The same problems with the unit test in 2.x got ported to 3.x. And the new SimpleDialog is just more lackluster code like we've seen before. I was hoping to be amazed, i am disappointed and

Question on Open Project

2011-01-26 Thread Subhabrata
Dear Room, I am a python programmer, from India(New Delhi area), and was in Bangalore for long days. My specialization is Natural Language Processing, -Machine Learning(worked on Naive Bayes, SVM, HMM, CRF). I am looking for some open projects in Python-in Machine Learning/NLP area, preferably

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 1/26/11 11:46 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Robert Kernrobert.k...@gmail.com That's not Terry's point. The reasons he's referring to (and stated previously) are as follows: 1. The license of wxWidgets and wxPython is not as permissive as Python's. The Python developers, as a matter of

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Nicholas Devenish
On 26/01/2011 18:19, rantingrick wrote: SUMMARY: We create an abstraction API atop Robin's WxPython. We include only the API in the stdlib at this time and we keep Tkinter in maintenance. Then over the next few years we start a fresh wxPython project that will be acceptable for the stdlib.

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 1/26/11 11:19 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Emile van Sebilleem...@fenx.com ... Well, I didn't know this, and it is a valid reason. This means that it is true that there is no enough maintainance force to keep WxPython updated. Did I understand correctly? Not at all -- wxPython is an

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 26.01.2011 18:04, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Littlefield, Tylerty...@tysdomain.com with JAWS because it is the most used screen reader. Get off your me soapbox. Jaws is not the most used. NVDA is taking over, quite fast, and lots of people have totally switched to mac or Vinux Lots of

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Littlefield, Tyler
It doesn't support a good voice synthesizer like Eloquence or IBM Via voice, but only eSpeak which sounds horrible, it doesn't have a scripting language ready to use as JAWS and Window Eyes do, it doesn't offer the possibility of reading with the mouse cursor as JAWS does with its so called

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rusi
On Jan 27, 12:02 am, Nicholas Devenish misno...@gmail.com wrote: Heck, I am probably wasting my time with this post; but you come across as genuine in your held central beliefs, and so either serious or the most dedicated and adept troll I have ever encountered. In the case of the former, I

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 1:02 pm, Nicholas Devenish misno...@gmail.com wrote: I look forward to reading your PEP and initial design documents, though I suspect you would need the latter and to get some a decent portion of work done before it would even be considered as an inclusion into the standard

how to read the last line of a huge file???

2011-01-26 Thread Xavier Heruacles
I have do some log processing which is usually huge. The length of each line is variable. How can I get the last line?? Don't tell me to use readlines or something like linecache... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 1/26/11 9:19 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com ... Well, I didn't know this, and it is a valid reason. This means that it is true that there is no enough maintainance force to keep WxPython updated. Did I understand correctly? Not at all -- wxPython is

Re: Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread bansi
On Jan 26, 1:31 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:51 AM, bansi mail2ba...@gmail.com wrote: I have following two python scripts -namelookupWrapper.py -namelookup.py The namelookupWrapper.py takes input of memberId, memberName from CLI and has following

Return Statement

2011-01-26 Thread sl33k_
How does return True and return False affect the execution of the calling function? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 2:07 pm, Stephen Hansen me+list/pyt...@ixokai.io wrote: And some people have absolutely no need-- no need at all-- for any sort of GUI programming at all. This group is actually really, really big. Stephen Strawman Hansen: If he only had a brain! :-) That is the most obvious

Re: Return Statement

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 2:26 pm, sl33k_ ahsanbag...@gmail.com wrote: How does return True and return False affect the execution of the calling function? def f1(): pass print f1() None def f2(): return print f2() None def f3(): return True print f3() True def f4():

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 11:55 am, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote: The code is hosted onhttp://svn.python.org Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Bugs/issues in tkinter.simpledialog!!

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 11:55 am, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote: [...snip...] Well i should have looked before i leaped :) This looks like an old 2.x version. I am looking for the newest version with is renamed to simpledialog and contains a new class called SimpleDialog. Do you know were i

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: geremy condra debat...@gmail.com At least 40% of my coworkers do not speak English as their native language. Your problem is not the language. Your problem is your attitude. The atitude considered nice is just duplicity for convincing others, and I don't like duplicity. I like to know

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Bryan
On Jan 26, 2:37 pm, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2:07 pm, Stephen Hansen me+list/pyt...@ixokai.io wrote: And some people have absolutely no need-- no need at all-- for any sort of GUI programming at all. This group is actually really, really big. Stephen Strawman

Re: Need GUI pop-up to edit a (unicode ?) string

2011-01-26 Thread rantingrick
On Jan 26, 2:11 am, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: In 3.x, the module is now tk.simpledialog -- all lower case. The purpose of all lowercase module names is to avoid confusion with upper case class names. Yes Terry, i found the new module and documented the bugs in a new thread. I am not

Re: how to read the last line of a huge file???

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 2:59 AM Xavier Heruacles said... I have do some log processing which is usually huge. The length of each line is variable. How can I get the last line?? Don't tell me to use readlines or something like linecache... seek -rw-rw1 autofax mail 1061716366 Jan 26 12:45

Re: how to read the last line of a huge file???

2011-01-26 Thread MRAB
On 26/01/2011 10:59, Xavier Heruacles wrote: I have do some log processing which is usually huge. The length of each line is variable. How can I get the last line?? Don't tell me to use readlines or something like linecache... Seek to somewhere near the end and then read use readlines(). If

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 69

2011-01-26 Thread willie...@gmail.com
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Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 69

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Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 88, Issue 67

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Re: Return Statement

2011-01-26 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 1/26/11 12:26 PM, sl33k_ wrote: How does return True and return False affect the execution of the calling function? It doesn't -- the value 'True' or 'False' is simply returned, and assigned to a name if the calling function does so explicitly. But there's no built in affects. If you want it

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Corey Richardson
On 01/26/2011 01:18 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: From: rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com On Jan 25, 3:41 pm, Corey Richardson kb1...@aim.com wrote: Do you honestly think he was talking about the accessibility problem? IMO that should move to another thread, because this one is simply about,

Re: WxPython versus Tkinter.

2011-01-26 Thread Brendan Simon (eTRIX)
Since it seems the python motto is Batteries included, then it would seem to me that wxPython is the natural fit as it also has Batteries included (e.g. accessibility, native look-n-feel, mature and evolving, can produce simple or complex gui programs, etc, etc). -- Brendan Simon

Re: Is it possible to pass CSV Reader Object As Argument to another Python File ???

2011-01-26 Thread Ben Finney
bansi mail2ba...@gmail.com writes: Thanks Chris. Sorry for mis-communicating, the two python scripts are dependant in a way that namelookupWrapper.py needs to pass csv record object to another python script Why have you structured them that way, though? What constraint is keeping you from

use class factory to set required class variables?

2011-01-26 Thread Alan
I have a class ``A`` that is intentionally incomplete: it has methods that refer to class variables that do not exist. The class ``A`` has several complicated methods, a number of which reference the missing class variables. Obviously, I do not directly use ``A``. I have a class factory ``f```

Re: Return Statement

2011-01-26 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 1/26/2011 12:26 PM sl33k_ said... How does return True and return False affect the execution of the calling function? That depends on the calling function. It will control what it does next generally based on the returned value, but it could also simply store the result. def

Re: Return Statement

2011-01-26 Thread Alexander Kapps
On 26.01.2011 21:26, sl33k_ wrote: How does return True and return False affect the execution of the calling function? If only affects the calling function if you use the return value: def foo(): return True def bar1(): foo() # nothing difference, whether foo() returns True or False

Re: use class factory to set required class variables?

2011-01-26 Thread Alan
On Jan 26, 4:37 pm, Alan alan.is...@gmail.com wrote: I have a class factory ``f``` that subclasses ``A`` *only* in order to define the class variables. I suppose it would be clearer to say that `f` *returns* subclasses of `A`. Hopefully that was clear ... Alan Isaac --

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