probably it is good to post jobs in python-list itself rather than posting
it on someother site. Many mailing lists do that. It gives a feel of what
jobs we come across for the Python developers.
KM
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> "Jerome jjcpl.rpo" writes:
>
> > One of our c
Ben Finney writes:
> Please do not solicit for jobs here. Instead, the Python Job Board
> http://www.python.org/community/jobs/> is intended for that purpose.
Wow, there's quite a lot of listings there. There had been only a few
last time I looked. But, most of them seem to involve Django.
--
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I spent some time today playing
around with the gc module, and came to the same conclusion that many of
you have as well.
for o in gc.get_objects():
print(o)
was sufficient to convince me that I didn't want to go that route.
Writing a simple mem
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> We do not consider passing a pointer as*by value* because its an
> address; by definition, that is pass-by-reference. We are not passing
To most of the world, pass-by-reference means the COMPILER, not the
PROGRAMMER is obtaining and passing the address, and
On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:48:51 +1200, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
: No, it's not. With call-by-name, the caller passes a
: small function (known as a "thunk") that calculates the
: address of the parameter. Every time the callee needs to
: refer to the parameter, it evaluates this function.
Well, ca
Tim Roberts wrote:
The fact that the parameter "a"
in BumpMe happens to be an address is completely irrelevent to the
definition of the parameter passing mechanism.
C has pass-by-value, exclusively. End of story.
Yeah, Tim, I know... but that's my entire point in a nut-shell...
whether the l
On 5/4/2011 5:46 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
Arguably, Python should not allow "is" or "id()" on
immutable objects. The programmer shouldn't be able to tell when
the system decides to optimize an immutable.
"is" is more of a problem than "id()"; "id()" is an explicit peek
into an i
On May 4, 12:51 pm, Daniel Neilson wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm hoping that there will be someone here with sufficient expertise
> to answer a question on Python 3 for me.
>
> I work in the Computer Science department at a large Canadian
> University. We are currently doing a feasibility analysis for
Mark Hammond wrote:
What about Python, where passing an integer to a function passes a
pointer to an int object, but that function is able to change the value
of the variable locally without changing the passed object (indeed, it
is impossible to change the passed integer)?
So given the definiti
Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
Is transmission by name the same as call by object?
No, it's not. With call-by-name, the caller passes a
small function (known as a "thunk") that calculates the
address of the parameter. Every time the callee needs to
refer to the parameter, it evaluates this functio
harrismh777 wrote:
>
>If I call a function in C, and pass-by-value, the data's 'value' is
>placed on the stack in a stack-frame, as a 'value' parm... its a copy of
>the actual data in memory.
>
>If I call a function in C, and pass-by-reference, the data's 'address'
>is placed on the stack in a
Daniel Neilson wrote:
1) Maintain a list of object id()'s for objects that have been created.
Ideally, this list would also contain the file & line number where the
object was created.
2) Provide a "deallocate" function that will remove a given object's
id() from the list from (1).
3) P
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
> * that the paper tag is tied to only one object
>
> * that a paper tag tied to no object is rather useless
>
> * that many paper tags can be tied to the same object
I disagree minorly; a tag tied to no object is quite useful in some
circumstance
Chris Angelico wrote:
There's definitely something attractive about that letter. Lots of
programming languages' names start with P.
Including one I invented some years ago, that (in the spirit
of C and its derivatives) was called simply "P".
(I was playing around with Sun's NeWS window server
Catherine Moroney wrote:
I am having some problems reading the
object back out, as I get complaints about "unable to import module X".
The only way I have found around it is to run the read-file code out of
the same directory that contains the X.py file
Even when I put statements into the c
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> I think that often, the cleverness of people is inversely proportional to
> the amount of CPU power and RAM that they have in their computer.
As Mark Rosewater is fond of saying, restrictions breed creativity.
Lack of computational resources
On 5/05/2011 11:11 AM, harrismh777 wrote:
The "pass by value" and "pass by reference" parameter passing
mechanisms are pretty well defined, and C uses "pass by value".
Yeah, that's kind-a funny, cause I'm one of the guys (old farts) that helped
define them
Cool - please tell us more abo
On May 4, 5:26 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> The test would be more convincing to many with 10 other geographic
> names (hard to come by, I know), or other english names or words or even
> with longer random strings that matched the lengths of the state names.
> But an average of 5/10 false pos
Grant Edwards wrote:
The "pass by value" and "pass by reference" parameter passing
mechanisms are pretty well defined, and C uses "pass by value".
Yeah, that's kind-a funny, cause I'm one of the guys (old farts) that
helped define them
The problem you're having here is that you're think
Ian Kelly wrote:
However, I hope we can all agree that pass-by-pointer shares certain
features with both pass-by-value and pass-by-reference, and there are
perfectly reasonable arguments for lumping it in either category, yes?
Yes.
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John Nagle wrote:
Arguably, Python should not allow "is" or "id()" on
immutable objects. The programmer shouldn't be able to tell when
the system decides to optimize an immutable.
"is" is more of a problem than "id()"; "id()" is an explicit peek
into an implementation detail.
Yes, yes, ye
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM, James Mills
wrote:
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:19 AM, geremy condra wrote:
>> I was the poster across from them at PyCon two years back. Pretty fun
>> to play with, although last I checked it was hard to do true HPC on
>> it.
>
> Why's that ? And what is true HPC (
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:19 AM, geremy condra wrote:
> I was the poster across from them at PyCon two years back. Pretty fun
> to play with, although last I checked it was hard to do true HPC on
> it.
Why's that ? And what is true HPC (High Performance Computing) anyway ?
I find the API provided
On 5/4/2011 5:39 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
The 512 bits in h are progressively eaten-up between iterations. So
each pass yields a different (array index, bit_mask) pair.
Yeh, obvious now that I see it.
It's easy to use the interactive prompt to show that different probes
are produced on
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:13 PM, James Mills
wrote:
> If anyone hasn't seen this yet, I encourage you to!
> (I stumbled upon it with some random thoughts and Gooogling)
>
> http://www.picloud.com/
>
> Here's a quick test I wrote up that works locally using the simulator
> and live (I did run it liv
If anyone hasn't seen this yet, I encourage you to!
(I stumbled upon it with some random thoughts and Gooogling)
http://www.picloud.com/
Here's a quick test I wrote up that works locally using the simulator
and live (I did run it live):
#!/usr/bin/env python
import cloud
def fib(n):
a, b,
Grant Edwards writes:
> On 2011-05-04, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> > I think that often, the cleverness of people is inversely
> > proportional to the amount of CPU power and RAM that they have in
> > their computer.
>
> True.
>
> Unfortunately the difficulty in debugging and maintaining code is
> of
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> We do not consider passing a pointer as*by value* because its an
>>> > address; by definition, that is pass-by-reference.
>>
>> No, it isn't. It's pass by value. The fact that you are passing a
>> value that is a
Thanks everyone.
I actually ran the program in question using Wine compatibility layer
and it seemed to work fine.
Terry, that looks like it could be useful, too. I'll give it a shot
and let you guys know how it works.
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Wojtek Mamrak wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I spent a lot of time googling for a solution of this problem, with no
> result.
>
> I have a C++ application, in which I would like to embed Python interpreter.
> I don't want to rely on an interpreter being installed on user machi
On 2011-05-04, harrismh777 wrote:
> Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> We do not consider passing a pointer as*by value* because its an
>>> > address; by definition, that is pass-by-reference.
>> No, it isn't. It's pass by value. The fact that you are passing a
>> value that is a pointer to another valu
On May 4, 12:27 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Raymond Hettinger writes:
> > Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
> >http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
>
> The use of pickle to serialize the keys is a little bit suspicious if
> there might be a reason to dump the filter to disk and re-us
On 5/4/2011 3:51 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 02:56:28 -0700, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Python is pass-by-value in a
meaningful sense, it's just that by saying that we say that the values
being passed are references/pointers. This is maybe one level of
abstraction below what's i
Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
That does not in any way impugn C..;.
: quite the contrary, given enough time, C is better suited for modeling
: on a von Neumann processor, period.
What has that got to do with abstraction?
Everything, really.
Folks seem to think that because they are doing abs
"Jerome jjcpl.rpo" writes:
> One of our client in New Jersey is looking for Python Developers with
> 5 years of experience. If you have any resumes please send it across.
Please do not solicit for jobs here. Instead, the Python Job Board
http://www.python.org/community/jobs/> is intended for tha
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> Given the following statement of Python code:
>
> >>> x = "spam"
>
> what is the value of the variable x?
Mu (無).
‘x’ is a name. Names are bound to values. Talk of “variable” only
confuses the issue because of the baggage carried with that term.
Yes, the Python docume
On May 4, 12:42 pm, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/4/2011 2:17 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
>
> > Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
> >http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
>
> > The wiki article on the algorithm is brief and well-written:
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
>
Grant Edwards wrote:
We do not consider passing a pointer as*by value* because its an
> address; by definition, that is pass-by-reference.
No, it isn't. It's pass by value. The fact that you are passing a
value that is a pointer to another value is not relevent.
@ Edwards, &Schaathun
You
Hello,
I spent a lot of time googling for a solution of this problem, with no
result.
I have a C++ application, in which I would like to embed Python interpreter.
I don't want to rely on an interpreter being installed on user machine,
instead I would like to distribute all the necessary files wit
On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:58:38 -0500, harrismh777
wrote:
: True enough. If I used Jython, I would want to take a look at those
: sources... as well as the Java sources... which were wrtten in, um, C.
And then, suddenly, you'll be developing code which fails on CPython
instead of code whi
On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:33:34 -0500, harrismh777
wrote:
: Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
: > In C it is pass by value, as the pointer
: > is explicit and do whatever you want with the pointer value.
:
: You clearly are not a C programmer.
I am not really a programmer period. I am many things an
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, ETP wrote:
> I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
> with a script. It needs only text input.
>
> It will then wait for a file to be created, rename the file, then
> loop. Simple.
>
Or not.
> I'd like to run this on Lucid Puppy Li
On 2011-05-04, harrismh777 wrote:
> Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
>> In C it is pass by value, as the pointer is explicit and do whatever
>> you want with the pointer value.
>
> You clearly are not a C programmer.
>
> Most of my C data abstractions use dual circular linked lists of
> pointers to s
On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:22:38 -0500, harrismh777
wrote:
: That statement is untrue; evidenced by the very fact the CPython's
: complex and abstract data modeling has been very suitably handled by C.
That's an implementation. Not modelling.
: You cannot possibly mean what you have a
Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
CPython is implemented in C because that's the language chosen. Python
is also implemented in Java, C#, Python, and several other languages.
True enough. If I used Jython, I would want to take a look at those
sources... as well as the Java sources... which were wrtte
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
"How was the date last night?"
> "Oh, it was marvelous! He presented me with a single red stink-weed, and
> then we went to a disgusting little restaurant. I had the swill."
Please don't argue with me in this manner.
D'Aprano takes a little getting used to. He
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:22 PM, harrismh777 wrote:
> Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
>>
>> It only works by assuming
>> knowledge of C, which is language which has proved unsuitable for
>> complex and abstract data modelling.
>
> That statement is untrue; evidenced by the very fact the CPython's com
On 5/4/2011 2:17 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
The wiki article on the algorithm is brief and well-written:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
As I understand the article, the array of num_bits should
On 04-05-11 21:13, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
It turns out that people in the 1970's were pretty smart :-)
I think that often, the cleverness of people is inversely proportional
to the amount of CPU power and RAM that they have in their computer.
The Google guys have plenty of CPU power *and* p
Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
In C it is pass by value, as the pointer
is explicit and do whatever you want with the pointer value.
You clearly are not a C programmer.
Most of my C data abstractions use dual circular linked lists of
pointers to structures of pointers. *All* of that is only ever
Raymond Hettinger writes:
> Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
> http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
The use of pickle to serialize the keys is a little bit suspicious if
there might be a reason to dump the filter to disk and re-use it in
another run of the program. Pickle repre
Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
It only works by assuming
knowledge of C, which is language which has proved unsuitable for
complex and abstract data modelling.
That statement is untrue; evidenced by the very fact the CPython's
complex and abstract data modeling has been very suitably handled b
On 2011-05-04, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 04-05-11 20:17, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
>> Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
>> http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
>>
>> The wiki article on the algorithm is brief and well-written:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
>>
>> It t
On 5/4/2011 12:34 PM, ETP wrote:
I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
with a script.
Look at the subprocess module. You may have to (and be able to) have it
start up the window program with the dos program as an argument.
It needs only text input. For exampl
> > It turns out that people in the 1970's were pretty smart :-)
>
> I think that often, the cleverness of people is inversely proportional
> to the amount of CPU power and RAM that they have in their computer.
The Google guys have plenty of CPU power *and* plenty of
cleverness :-)
According to t
On 04-05-11 20:17, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
The wiki article on the algorithm is brief and well-written:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
It turns out that people in the 1970's were pretty smart :-)
On 5/4/2011 12:51 PM, Daniel Neilson wrote:
Hello,
I'm hoping that there will be someone here with sufficient expertise to
answer a question on Python 3 for me.
I work in the Computer Science department at a large Canadian
University. We are currently doing a feasibility analysis for switching
On 5/4/2011 10:06 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
after a long delay the pyjamas project - http://pyjs.org - has begun the
0.8 series of releases, beginning with alpha1:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyjamas/files/pyjamas/0.8/
pyjamas is a suite of projects, including a python-to-jav
On 5/4/11 10:45 AM, Stefan Kuzminski wrote:
I got this to work by returning from reduce just the args that the __init__ of
the type being pickled requires ( rather than the 5 length tuple described in
the pickling docs ), I am not going to argue with it though..
Let's take a step back. The docu
Raymond Hettinger wrote:
I'm writing-up more guidance on how to use super() and would like to
point at some real-world Python examples of cooperative multiple
inheritance.
Don't know if you are still looking for examples, but I recently came
across a thread in Python-Dev which had an example u
Here's a 22-line beauty for a classic and amazing algorithm:
http://bit.ly/bloom_filter
The wiki article on the algorithm is brief and well-written:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter
It turns out that people in the 1970's were pretty smart :-)
Raymond
---
follow my other python tip
On 2011-05-04, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>> On 2011-05-04, Matty Sarro wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, ETP wrote:
I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
with a script.
>>
>>> Look into the pexpe
rusi writes:
>> I actually use rcs in Windows. Needs a little setup, but works great,
>> from Emacs VC-mode too.
>
> Where do you get it?
> [What google is showing seems to be about 10-15 years old]
As far as I know, RCS hasn't been updated since 5.7 which is about 10
years old now. Linux distri
Sturla had some great comments; I'll add, in no particular order:
1) You could use the ctypes module to call the real malloc and free from
Python.
2) Yes, a Python "C extension module" can do explicit memory allocation.
3) Cython provides a language that is a hybrid of Python and C. It might be
n
On 5/4/2011 3:45 AM, Mehta, Pratik wrote:
For tutorialPython.pdf
Page 17 of the ebook (i.e. page 23 of pdf) under topic *3.2 First Steps
towards programming*
Under while loop, there should be a “,” after print b
Print b,
(a comma after ‘b’ is missing)
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2011-05-04, Matty Sarro wrote:
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, ETP wrote:
>>> I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
>>> with a script.
>
>> Look into the pexpect library, it'll make this easy as punch.
>
On May 4, 7:15 pm, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> You missed a word in the sentence.
>
> "If you can see this, you DON'T have call-by-value"
Indeed I did, sorry!
Then we agree :)
Sturla
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On Thu, 5 May 2011 00:20:34 +1000, Chris Angelico
wrote:
: Sometimes, to explain Python, you need to dig down to the underlying
: hardware - even deeper than C, if you like.
Sometimes you may need to narrow down the scope and explain a particular
implementation of python with its hardware, OS
I'm using Python 2.4 and 2.7 for different apps. I'm happy with a
solution for either one.
I've got to talk to a url that uses a session cookie. I only need to
set this when I'm developing/debugging so I don't need a robust
production solution and I'm somewhat confused by the docs on cookielib.
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:40 PM, sturlamolden wrote:
>
> On May 4, 5:40 pm, Michael Torrie wrote:
>
> > Which is exactly what the code showed. The first one isn't a mistake.
> > You just read it wrong.
>
> No, I read "call-by-value" but it does not make a copy. Call-by-value
> dictates a deep co
On May 4, 6:51 pm, Daniel Neilson wrote:
> In either case, if such a module is possible, any pointers you could
> provide regarding how to implement such a module would be appreciated.
The gc module will hook into the garbage collector.
The del statement will remove an object from the curren
On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:18:56 -0700 (PDT), Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
: I'm a bit uncomfortable with the vibe here. It's one thing for me to
: self-deprecatingly suggest I'm brainwashed (with a smile), and another
: for you to agree in complete seriousness.
I am sorry. It was not meant to be an
On 2011-05-04, Matty Sarro wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, ETP wrote:
>> I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
>> with a script.
> Look into the pexpect library, it'll make this easy as punch.
I don't think pexpect is going to do the OP much good. Quot
Hello,
I'm hoping that there will be someone here with sufficient expertise
to answer a question on Python 3 for me.
I work in the Computer Science department at a large Canadian
University. We are currently doing a feasibility analysis for switching
to using Python in our first year major
On May 4, 5:40 pm, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Which is exactly what the code showed. The first one isn't a mistake.
> You just read it wrong.
No, I read "call-by-value" but it does not make a copy. Call-by-value
dictates a deep copy or copy-on-write. Python does neither. Python
pass a handle to th
Look into the pexpect library, it'll make this easy as punch.
http://www.noah.org/wiki/pexpect
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:34 PM, ETP wrote:
> I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
> with a script. It needs only text input. For example, I only need to
> tell it:
>
>
I have a dos program (run in a window) that I would like to control
with a script. It needs only text input. For example, I only need to
tell it:
L
u
100
u
It will then wait for a file to be created, rename the file, then
loop. Simple.
I'd like to run this on Lucid Puppy Linux as it will be
On May 4, 9:44 am, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
> : The only twist is that you never get to dereference
> : pointers in Python, but you can in C. Not much of a twist if you ask
> : me, but then again, I've been thinking in thismodelfor years. Maybe
> : I'm brainwashed. :)
>
> You a
On 4 maio, 12:55, Tapi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You may create a subclass of (or Mixin for) BaseHTTPRequestHandler to
> override its log_message() method.
> Here's a really simple example ; it's perfectible, but it should show
> you the way :
>
> class MyLoggingHTTPRequestHandler(BaseHTTPRequestHandler):
On 05/04/2011 08:44 AM, sturlamolden wrote:
> On May 3, 6:33 pm, Mel wrote:
>
>> def identify_call (a_list):
>> a_list[0] = "If you can see this, you don't have call-by-value"
>> a_list = ["If you can see this, you have call-by-reference"]
>
>
> The first one is a mistake. If it were pass-b
Hi,
You may create a subclass of (or Mixin for) BaseHTTPRequestHandler to
override its log_message() method.
Here's a really simple example ; it's perfectible, but it should show
you the way :
class MyLoggingHTTPRequestHandler(BaseHTTPRequestHandler):
def log_message(self, format, *args):
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> after a long delay the pyjamas project - http://pyjs.org - has begun the
> 0.8 series of releases, beginning with alpha1:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyjamas/files/pyjamas/0.8/
>
> pyjamas is a suite of projects, inclu
I got this to work by returning from reduce just the args that the __init__
of the type being pickled requires ( rather than the 5 length tuple
described in the pickling docs ), I am not going to argue with it though..
thank you *very* much for the help!
S
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Robert
On 5/3/11 9:28 PM, Stefan Kuzminski wrote:
closer I think
1) I changed tp_name to be 'observation.MV' ( module is named observation.c )
and now I get a new error..
PicklingError: Can't pickle : import of module
observation failed
2) here is the init function, sorry I did not include it in the
On May 3, 6:33 pm, Mel wrote:
> def identify_call (a_list):
> a_list[0] = "If you can see this, you don't have call-by-value"
> a_list = ["If you can see this, you have call-by-reference"]
The first one is a mistake. If it were pass-by-value, it would
assign the string to a list unseen by t
On May 3, 3:50 pm, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> I would say that, considering currently most popular languages and
> platforms, Python's data model is in the majority. It is only the
> people coming from a C++ background that tend to be confused by it.
In C++, one will ususally put class variables (o
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Hans Georg Schaathun
wrote:
> It is contorted and implementation-level because it is one level below
> the abstraction assumed by the language. It only works by assuming
> knowledge of C, which is language which has proved unsuitable for
> complex and abstract da
On Wed, 4 May 2011 06:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
: I don't think of "pass-by-value" involving references as being an
: implementation-level thing. It's a way of thinking about Python's
: behavior: a model. (...)
: It isn't particularly contorted. I learned Python this way and
after a long delay the pyjamas project - http://pyjs.org - has begun the
0.8 series of releases, beginning with alpha1:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyjamas/files/pyjamas/0.8/
pyjamas is a suite of projects, including a python-to-javascript
compiler with two modes of operation (roughly classi
On May 4, 6:56 am, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2011 02:56:28 -0700 (PDT), Devin Jeanpierre
> wrote:
>
> : Eh, that example doesn't say what you think it does. It has the same
> : behavior in C:http://ideone.com/Fq09N. Python is pass-by-value in a
> : meaningful sense, it's ju
On May 4, 6:51 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2011 02:56:28 -0700, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> > Python is pass-by-value in a
> > meaningful sense, it's just that by saying that we say that the values
> > being passed are references/pointers. This is maybe one level of
> > abstraction b
On May 3, 4:08 pm, Jabba Laci wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just reading Robert M. Martin's book entitled "Clean Code". In Ch.
> 5 he says that a function that is called should be below a function
> that does the calling. This creates a nice flow down from top to
> bottom.
> However, when I write a Python
On Wed, 4 May 2011 02:56:28 -0700 (PDT), Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
: Eh, that example doesn't say what you think it does. It has the same
: behavior in C: http://ideone.com/Fq09N . Python is pass-by-value in a
: meaningful sense, it's just that by saying that we say that the values
: being pas
Steven D'Aprano writes:
x = "spam"
> what is the value of the variable x? Is it...?
> (1) The string "spam".
Python works about the same way as Lisp or Scheme with regard to this
sort of thing, and those languages have been described with quite a bit
of mathematical formality. So if you wan
First, i'm sorry for any inglish error!
So, i use the BaseHTTPServer to create a page for monitoring purposes,
someone now how to direct the event log to a file?
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 02:56:28 -0700, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> Python is pass-by-value in a
> meaningful sense, it's just that by saying that we say that the values
> being passed are references/pointers. This is maybe one level of
> abstraction below what's ideal,
"Maybe"?
Given the following st
> To illustrate the neither-fish-nor-fowl nature of Python calls:
>
> mwilson@tecumseth:~$ python
> Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:09:56)
> [GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.>>> def
> identify_call (a_list):
>
> ... a_list[0]
James Mills wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Astan Chee wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to make a python script (in windows 7 x64 using python 2.5) to
start a process, and kill it after x minutes/seconds and kill all the
descendants of it.
Whats the best way of doing this in python? which modul
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Dylan Evans wrote:
> I think i see what you are trying to do but it depends on the environment
> and your goals.
> Generally i think you need to separate your code by forking (or perhaps you
> have already done that?),
> then you can run a check to see if the proce
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