Hello Terry,
Thanks, I understand now.
Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 2:16:24 AM, you wrote:
> On 5/9/2011 4:25 PM, Claudiu Popa wrote:
>> I already told in the first post that I've implemented __str__ function,
>> but it doesn't seems to be automatically called.
> No, Python does not auto-coerce to
En Sat, 07 May 2011 02:21:02 -0300, rusi escribió:
There is this nice page of testing tools taxonomy:
http://pycheesecake.org/wiki/PythonTestingToolsTaxonomy
But it does not list staf: http://staf.sourceforge.net/index.php.
The good thing about wikis is, you can add it yourself.
--
Gabriel
On May 9, 10:13 pm, ander2_1...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I'm using Console module (doc:http://effbot.org/zone/console-handbook.htm,
> like nCurses) on Windows, but I don't know how to call a keyboard
> input like input() or raw_input().
> What to do?
Maybe read the docs, specifically the section title
On Tue, 10 May 2011 13:49:04 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> It's just that the term "variable" is so useful and so familiar that
>> it's easy to use it even for languages that don't have variables in the
>> C/ Pascal/Fortran/etc sense.
>
> Who says it has to have the P
On 10/05/2011 02:51, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Or Chinese Gooseberries, better known by the name thought up by a
marketing firm, "kiwi fruit".
And I'm told that there is a language (one of the
Nordic ones, IIRC) where "kiwi" means "stone". So in
that country they wonder why
According to the 3.2 docs
(http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/codecs.html#codecs.open),
"""Files are always opened in binary mode, even if no binary mode was
specified. This is done to avoid data loss due to encodings using 8-bit
values. This means that no automatic conversion of b'\n' is done on
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Or Chinese Gooseberries, better known by the name thought up by a
marketing firm, "kiwi fruit".
And I'm told that there is a language (one of the
Nordic ones, IIRC) where "kiwi" means "stone". So in
that country they wonder why they should be getting so
excited about som
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
It's just that the term "variable" is so useful and so familiar that it's
easy to use it even for languages that don't have variables in the C/
Pascal/Fortran/etc sense.
Who says it has to have the Pascal/Fortran/etc sense? Why
should static languages have a monopoly on
On May 9, 9:33 pm, python wrote:
> On May 8, 12:43 pm, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Greg Lindstrom
> > wrote:
> > > Is it possible to create a dictionary from a string value? Something
> > > along
> > > these lines (but that works):
>
> > m
On May 8, 12:43 pm, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Greg Lindstrom wrote:
> > Is it possible to create a dictionary from a string value? Something along
> > these lines (but that works):
>
> mystring = "{'name':'greg','hatsize':'7 5/8'}"
> mystring
> > "{'name'
On 5/9/2011 8:44 PM, Algis Kabaila wrote:
The method of double indexing in the manner
a[i][j]
for the (i, j) -th element of multi-dimensional array is well known and
widely used. But how to enable the "standard" matrix notation
a[i, j]
in Python 3.2 in the manner of numpy (and other matrix packa
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Kyle T. Jones
wrote:
> It has been hard for me to determine what would constitute overuse.
A rule of thumb I always follow and practice is:
"Let the error lie where it occurred."
or
"Don't hide errors.".
It's good practice to follow IHMO as it makes it easier
On Tuesday 10 May 2011 05:24:16 Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/9/2011 4:25 AM, Antonio CHESSA wrote:
> > apple =
> > [["a","b","c"],[1,2,3,4,5,6],["antony","max","sandra","seb
> > astian"]]
> >for j in range (len(apple[i])):
> > print apple[i][j]
>
> While this illustrate double indexing, it
It has been hard for me to determine what would constitute overuse.
Cheers.
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tuesday 10 May 2011 04:13:55 pb wrote:
> On May 9, 3:34 pm, Robert Kern wrote:
> > On 5/9/11 3:35 AM, pb wrote:
> > > On May 9, 12:29 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> > >> On 5/8/2011 6:44 AM, pb wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> I', having trouble with scipy.
> > >>
> > >> If you do not get an answer here,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If I were talking to a programming n00b, I would have been more careful,
but you've made numerous references to your long, long programming
experience and I thought you would be able to draw the obvious connection
without me insulting you by stating the obvious.
Pedantics
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Python uses a boolean algebra where there are many ways of
spelling the true and false values. The "not" operator returns
the canonical bool values:
Take note of the distinction between lower-case true/false,
which are adjectives, and True/False,
On Mon, 09 May 2011 15:09:32 -0400, James Wright wrote:
> Thank you Steven,
>
> I will take your advice :) In this particular case though, I do not
> think a lack of underscore is the issue, at least as far as I can
> understand the issue. Please see my reply to Ethan.
In your reply to Ethan,
Steven D'Aprano writes:
> I'm sorry that I failed to make that more explicit. If I were talking
> to a programming n00b, I would have been more careful, but you've made
> numerous references to your long, long programming experience and I
> thought you would be able to draw the obvious connection
On Mon, 09 May 2011 16:58:14 -0500, harrismh777 wrote:
> Ian Kelly wrote:
>> "bool(list)" describes whether the list contains something. "Not"
>> being a logical operator, it stands to reason that "not list" should
>> mean the same thing as "not bool(list)".
>
> Ian, James,
>
> Agreed, and
On 5/9/2011 4:25 PM, Claudiu Popa wrote:
I already told in the first post that I've implemented __str__ function,
> but it doesn't seems to be automatically called.
No, Python does not auto-coerce to strings (only between numbers).
You have to be explicit by calling str. Karim's statement "Yo
Ian Kelly wrote:
"bool(list)" describes whether the list contains something. "Not"
being a logical operator, it stands to reason that "not list" should
mean the same thing as "not bool(list)".
Ian, James,
Agreed, and thank you. This *is* the explanation I was trying to
prompt D'Aprano fo
On 2011.05.09 04:10 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1345632/determine-if-an-executable-or-library-is-32-or-64-bits-on-windows
The code using struct doesn't look terribly complicated, so that could
work. I might need to inspect other executable types, but I don't see it
On May 9, 1:25 pm, Claudiu Popa wrote:
> Hello Karim,
>
> > You just have to implement __str__() python special method for your
> > "custom_objects".
> > Regards
> > Karim
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >> --
> >>http://rebertia.com
>
> I already told in the first post that I've implemented __str__ fu
On 5/8/2011 7:36 PM, Dan Stromberg wrote:
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Terry Reedy mailto:tjre...@udel.edu>> wrote:
Because inductive algorithms commonly branch on 'input is something'
(not done, change args toward 'nothing'and recurse or iterate)
versus 'input is nothing (done
Gregory Ewing wrote:
+-+
+---+ | |
a | --+>| |
+---+ | |
+-+
^
+---+
On 5/9/11 3:52 PM, Andrew Berg wrote:
I need to find whether a given file is 32-bit or 64-bit (and raise an
exception if the file doesn't exist or isn't an executable file). I
thought platform.architecture() would do this, but it returns ('64bit',
'') no matter what value I assign to the executab
On May 9, 2:31 am, Trent Nelson wrote:
> > What are your favorites?
>
> I think I've posted this before, but I love my
> 3-lines-if-you-ignore-the-scaffolding language translator. Not because it's
> clever code -- quite the opposite, the code is dead simple -- but because it
> encompasses one
On 9-5-2011 22:52, Andrew Berg wrote:
> I need to find whether a given file is 32-bit or 64-bit (and raise an
> exception if the file doesn't exist or isn't an executable file). I
> thought platform.architecture() would do this, but it returns ('64bit',
> '') no matter what value I assign to the ex
On May 9, 9:52 pm, Andrew Berg wrote:
> I need to find whether a given file is 32-bit or 64-bit (and raise an
> exception if the file doesn't exist or isn't an executable file). I
> thought platform.architecture() would do this, but it returns ('64bit',
> '') no matter what value I assign to the e
On Mon, 9 May 2011 21:18:29 +1000, Chris Angelico
wrote:
: Analogies are like diagrams. Not all of them are perfect or useful.
:
: The boxes are different sizes. If you really want them to look
: different, do one as squares and one as circles, but don't try that in
: plain text.
Analogies
I need to find whether a given file is 32-bit or 64-bit (and raise an
exception if the file doesn't exist or isn't an executable file). I
thought platform.architecture() would do this, but it returns ('64bit',
'') no matter what value I assign to the executable parameter (looks
like it uses the giv
On 5/9/2011 2:10 PM, James Wright wrote:
Hello,
I have been using a script on several boxes that have been around for
a while, and everything works just fine. I am finding though, that on
some new OS installs the script fails with:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "render4.py", line
James Wright wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
James Wright wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Change your print line to:
print("D4[%s] = %s" % (report, each_value))
After that, you'll have to track down how D4 is being created to see
Hello Karim,
> You just have to implement __str__() python special method for your
> "custom_objects".
> Regards
> Karim
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> --
>> http://rebertia.com
I already told in the first post that I've implemented __str__ function, but
it doesn't
seems to be automatically called.
On 5/9/2011 10:29 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If people then ask, how does the interpreter know the names?, I can add
more detail: names are actually strings in a namespace, which is usually
nothing more than a dict. Oh, and inside functions, it's a bit more
complicated still. And so on.
Which
On 05/07/11 16:25, Chris Rebert wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Claudiu Popa wrote:
Hello Python-list,
I have an object which defines some methods. I want to join a list or
an iterable of those objects like this:
new_string = "|".join(iterable_of_custom_objects)
What is the __
Sorry Alex, and thank you.
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Alex Willmer wrote:
> (Direct reply to me, reposted on Jame's behalf)
>
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Alex Willmer
> wrote:
>> On May 9, 8:10 pm, James Wright wrote:
>>> Hello Ian,
>>>
>>> It does indeed to seem tha
Hello Ethan,
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> James Wright wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
>>>
>>> Change your print line to:
>>>
>>> print("D4[%s] = %s" % (report, each_value))
>>>
>>> After that, you'll have to track down how D4 is being
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Martineau wrote:
> Instead of join() here's a function that does something similar to
> what the string join() method does. The first argument can be a list
> of any type of objects and the second separator argument can likewise
> be any type. The result is list of
(Direct reply to me, reposted on Jame's behalf)
Hi Alex,
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Alex Willmer
wrote:
> On May 9, 8:10 pm, James Wright wrote:
>> Hello Ian,
>>
>> It does indeed to seem that way. However the script works just fine
>> on other machines, with the same input file.
>
> Ho
James Wright wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Change your print line to:
print("D4[%s] = %s" % (report, each_value))
After that, you'll have to track down how D4 is being created to see where
'vsr' is coming from.
It does not appear to show a key:
D4[] = vsr
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, James Wright wrote:
> It does not appear to show a key:
>
> D4[] = vsr
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "render4.py", line 115, in
> create_report_index(each_item)
> File "render4.py", line 26, in create_report_index
> [clean_name, _] = each_valu
On May 7, 5:31 am, Claudiu Popa wrote:
> Hello Python-list,
>
> I have an object which defines some methods. I want to join a list or
> an iterable of those objects like this:
>
> new_string = "|".join(iterable_of_custom_objects)
>
> What is the __magic__ function that needs to be impleme
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
> James Wright wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Ethan,
>>
>> This is what I see now:
>>
>> # python render4.py
>> current each_value is: vsr
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "render4.py", line 115, in
>> create_report_index(each_item)
>>
On 09/05/2011 20:10, James Wright wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, James Wright wrote:
Hello,
I have been using a script on several boxes that have been around for
a while, and everything works just fine. I am finding though, that on
s
On 5/9/2011 4:25 AM, Antonio CHESSA wrote:
apple = [["a","b","c"],[1,2,3,4,5,6],["antony","max","sandra","sebastian"]]
apple[0] = ["a","b","c"]
apple[1] = [1,2,3,4,5,6]
apple[2] = ["antony","max","sandra","sebastian"]
apple[0][1] = "b"
apple[2][3] = "sebastian"
to view all videos in a loop so
James Wright wrote:
Thank you Ethan,
This is what I see now:
# python render4.py
current each_value is: vsr
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "render4.py", line 115, in
create_report_index(each_item)
File "render4.py", line 26, in create_report_index
[clean_name, _] = each_va
Hello all,
I've been playing with sys.settrace() in an attempt to better
understand how trace functions (and debugging) work. I'm running
Python3.2 on Windows, which I installed by running the installer
package (i.e. I did not compile from source code).
Here's my code, some of which I borrowed fr
Hello Ian,
It does indeed to seem that way. However the script works just fine
on other machines, with the same input file.
Thanks,
James
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, James Wright wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been using a script on sev
Thank you Steven,
I will take your advice :) In this particular case though, I do not
think a lack of underscore is the issue, at least as far as I can
understand the issue. Please see my reply to Ethan.
Thanks,
James
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Mon, 09 May 2
Thank you Ethan,
This is what I see now:
# python render4.py
current each_value is: vsr
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "render4.py", line 115, in
create_report_index(each_item)
File "render4.py", line 26, in create_report_index
[clean_name, _] = each_value.split('_', 1)
Valu
On Mon, 09 May 2011 14:10:21 -0400, James Wright wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been using a script on several boxes that have been around for a
> while, and everything works just fine. I am finding though, that on
> some new OS installs the script fails with:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
James Wright wrote:
Hello,
Howdy!
def create_report_index(report): #Here we are creating a simple
index.html file from data in a text file
newfile = open(report + '.html', 'w') #Create the index file using
report name
for each_value in D4[report]:
[clean_name, _] = each_value
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, James Wright wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been using a script on several boxes that have been around for
> a while, and everything works just fine. I am finding though, that on
> some new OS installs the script fails with:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> F
Here's my python code:
import httplib, urllib2
proxy_handler = {'http' : 'localhost:8118',
'https' : 'localhost:8118'}
def connect_u2(url = 'http://ipid.shat.net/iponly/'):,
proxied = urllib2.ProxyHandler(proxy_handler)
opnr = urllib2.build_opener(proxied)
opnr.addhe
On 9-5-2011 8:22, Nico Grubert wrote:
>> I had this happening to me as well someday.
>> I recall that first installing it (python setup.py install), and then
>> rerunning selftest, solved that error.
>
> I tried that as well.
> Here is the summary of the install process:
>
> build/temp.linux-x86_
On May 9, 3:34 pm, Robert Kern wrote:
> On 5/9/11 3:35 AM, pb wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 12:29 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> >> On 5/8/2011 6:44 AM, pb wrote:
>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I', having trouble with scipy.
>
> >> If you do not get an answer here, try the scipy list where scipy experts
> >> hang out. You
Hello,
I have been using a script on several boxes that have been around for
a while, and everything works just fine. I am finding though, that on
some new OS installs the script fails with:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "render4.py", line 114, in
create_report_index(each_item)
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> It's not an awful model for Python: a name binding a = obj is equivalent
> to sticking a reference (a pointer?) in box a that points to obj.
> Certainly there are advantages to it.
>
> But one problem is, the model is ambiguous with b = a. You've drawn
> little boxes a an
Hi Harry,
You'd be better off asking this on the z...@zope.org mailing list...
cheers,
Chris
On 28/04/2011 20:19, harryjatt wrote:
Hi, i am doing web development with Zope. My connected database is mySQL. I
am new to this combination.I have to upload the files to mySQL with
programming in zo
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
But that's wrong! Names (little boxes) can't point to *slots in a list*,
any more than they can point to other names! This doesn't work:
--> L = [None, 42, None]
--> a = L[0]
--> L[0] = 23
--> print(a) # This doesn't work!
23
Minor nitpick -- having a comment saying
On May 9, 3:53 pm, TheSaint wrote:
> Vinay Sajip wrote:
> >logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG, format='%(message)s')
>
> logging.basicConfig(format='%(message)s', level=logging.DEBUG)
>
> I formulated in the reverse order of arguments, may that cause an
> unpredicted result?
No, you can pass
David,
Thanks for the link. I'd scanned but skipped it because it was
"third-party". This time I started following some of the links and finally
found the link for distutils:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute#installation-instructions. Works like
a charm.
Thanks for pointing me back to that
Vinay Sajip wrote:
> logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG, format='%(message)s')
logging.basicConfig(format='%(message)s', level=logging.DEBUG)
I formulated in the reverse order of arguments, may that cause an
unpredicted result?
The other points became clearer..
Once again
Thank You
--
On 09/05/2011 15:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[... snippage galore ...]
Slightly abstract comment: while I don't usually get much
enjoyment out of the regular "Python is call-by-value; no
it isn't; yes it is" debates, I always enjoy reading
Steven D'Aprano's responses.
Thanks, Mr D'A.
:)
TJG
--
On 5/9/11 3:35 AM, pb wrote:
On May 9, 12:29 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 5/8/2011 6:44 AM, pb wrote:
Hi,
I', having trouble with scipy.
If you do not get an answer here, try the scipy list where scipy experts
hang out. You might also try searching the archives of that list or the
scipy bug tr
On Mon, 09 May 2011 12:52:27 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> Since you haven't explained what you think is happening, I can only
>> guess.
>
> Let me save you from guessing. I'm thinking of a piece of paper with a
> little box on it and the name 'a' written beside it. T
I'm using Console module (doc: http://effbot.org/zone/console-handbook.htm,
like nCurses) on Windows, but I don't know how to call a keyboard
input like input() or raw_input().
What to do?
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Hans Georg Schaathun wrote:
> The flaw of this model, and I am not discounting its merits, just
> pointing out that it isn't perfect, is that it creates the illusion
> that references are boxes (objects) just like data objects, leading
> the reader to think that we
On Mon, 09 May 2011 12:52:27 +1200, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
: Let me save you from guessing. I'm thinking of a piece of paper with
: a little box on it and the name 'a' written beside it. There is an
: arrow from that box to a bigger box.
:
: +-+
:
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 6:05 AM, EnyGmA Más Pro wrote:
> aYudenme porfavor. Gracias.
>
> --
> From: jean_p...@hotmail.es
> To: python-list@python.org; h...@python.org;
> pycolom...@listas.el-directorio.org
> Subject: HELP ME, PLEASE. SCRIP EXPORT TO .TM
> Date: Mon, 9
Am 09.05.2011 08:22, schrieb Nico Grubert:
> $ python selftest.py
> *** The _imaging C module is not installed
It works for me after an inplace installation of the C extensions with
"python setup.py build_ext -i". With build_ext -i the C extension is
installed inside the source tree so selftest ca
> What are your favorites?
I think I've posted this before, but I love my
3-lines-if-you-ignore-the-scaffolding language translator. Not because it's
clever code -- quite the opposite, the code is dead simple -- but because it
encompasses one of the things I love about Python the most: it gets
aYudenme porfavor. Gracias.
From: jean_p...@hotmail.es
To: python-list@python.org; h...@python.org; pycolom...@listas.el-directorio.org
Subject: HELP ME, PLEASE. SCRIP EXPORT TO .TM
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 03:56:40 -0500
Good morning Python community, I need help to develop or create a scri
Good morning Python community, I need help to develop or create a script to
export to. tmb but blender, there is to import. tmb in blender (look here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2g20yymmxam) this and I have, but need one to export
in a blender. tmb. Windows platform (XP, Windows 7 and Windows Se
On May 9, 12:29 am, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 5/8/2011 6:44 AM, pb wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I', having trouble with scipy.
>
> If you do not get an answer here, try the scipy list where scipy experts
> hang out. You might also try searching the archives of that list or the
> scipy bug tracker.
>
> --
>
Just learning python.
I can see that I can address an individual element of a list of lists
by
doing something like:
row = list[5]
element = row[3]
But is there a way to directly address an entry in a single statement?
Thanks for any help.
Regards
Chris Roy-Smith
suppose you have a list like th
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