hello,
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:37:43AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I wanted to ensure that it would do the right thing when run without a tty,
such as from a cron job.
If you fork() your process, then it will also loose the tty...
import os
import sys
try:
pid = os.fork()
Hello guys,
I am migrating my application from python 1.5.2 to 2.7.1. I encountered an
error when I run some commands (I put in debug statement however, not able to
trace down to which line of code that cause it to generate a lot of messages in
one second until my hard disk space is full. The
On 3/10/11 08:10:57, Hegedüs, Ervin wrote:
hello,
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 04:37:43AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I wanted to ensure that it would do the right thing when run without a tty,
such as from a cron job.
If you fork() your process, then it will also loose the tty...
Errhm, I
Fair points Steven. Thanks for further refining my initial refinement. :-)
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 06:45:25 +, Wong Wah Meng-R32813 wrote:
Does it mean in newer python I need to migrate all my Exception to
non-string based exception type? That's should be a lot of changes. :p
Yes.
Python 1.5 is very old. It's over 11 years old.
You might find it easier to first
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Wong Wah Meng-R32813
r32...@freescale.com wrote:
Hello guys,
I am migrating my application from python 1.5.2 to 2.7.1. I encountered an
error when I run some commands (I put in debug statement however, not able to
trace down to which line of code that cause
hello,
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 09:28:27AM +0200, Hans Mulder wrote:
On 3/10/11 08:10:57, Hegedüs, Ervin wrote:
If you fork() your process, then it will also loose the tty...
Errhm, I suggest you check again. This cannot be true.
os.setsid()
It is os.setsid() that makes you lose the
Noted. No choice then, I will convert all my raise statement to use the
exception instance. Thanks!
Regards,
Wah Meng
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:46 PM
To: Wong Wah Meng-R32813
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I see. Thanks for the tips. If I run out of time I shall consider only using
2.5.
Regards,
Wah Meng
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En Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:29:24 -0300, Andrea Gavana
andrea.gav...@gmail.com escribió:
Let's say I am using a package called blah, and this package is already
installed on site-packages (and I need it to be there) with a name
blah-1.2-win. In the site-packages folder, there is a pth file called
Prakash prakash...@gmail.com wrote:
Need A script to open a excel file and extract the data using
autofilter and write it in a new sheet or new file like I have to
select all rows in which all the columns contain pass as status
... try this:
http://www.python-excel.org/
Regards
Alexander Kapps wrote:
Sure, in that simple example the Controller is just there to show a
complete MVC pattern with all three parts. There are often examples
where the View is actually both, the View and the Controller.
I think what I'm really trying to say is that this
example is *poor* at
Wong Wah Meng-R32813 wrote:
I am migrating my application from python 1.5.2 to 2.7.1.
Does it mean in newer python I need to migrate all my Exception to
non-string based exception type? That's should be a lot of changes. :p
'Fraid so. You are leaping quite a lot of versions at once,
and
Hegedüs wrote:
If you fork() your process, then it will also loose the tty...
Um, no, fork() doesn't do that, as far as I know.
os.setsid()
*This* is what's losing the tty. According to the Fine Man Page:
DESCRIPTION
The setsid function creates a new session. The calling process is
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Hi All,
The attached package gives that smallest possible example of problems
I'm hitting with some SQLAlchemy declarative classes.
In short, I want to be able to do:
python -m pack.module and have if the __name__=='__main__' block spit
out the SQL to create the tables necessary for the
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Hi All,
The attached package gives that smallest possible example of problems I'm
hitting with some SQLAlchemy declarative classes.
In short, I want to be able to do:
python -m pack.module and have if the
Hi All,
Please can anyone help me in resolving following problem.
import cmd
class CmdLineApp(cmd.Cmd):
def do_grep(self, line):
print line
option = [--ignore-case,
--invert-match,--word-regexp,--line-regexp]
def complete_grep(self, text, line, begidx,
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On Oct 1, 10:41 pm, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone know the story behind the lower-case names for the
non-exception built-in types (like list and type)? I am guessing that
they were originally factory functions that, at some point, graduated
to full types; and the names
In article mailman.1679.1317609688.27778.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
If something involves Python and nontrivial chronology, then
mxDateTime is the go-to library. And indeed, it has a RelativeDateTime
type:
Are you running web.py on your computer, or is it running for example on
a hosting company's computer? If it's not on your computer you have your
port 8080 traffic blocked the hosting company's firewall.
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 20:59:40 -0700, sillyou su wrote:
i am learning webpy and I am
Hi everyone,
I am really stuck in a very simple problem and wanted to know if you
could take some time to check it out -
My code is simple. Using BaseHTTPServer and ThreadInMix I want to run
a python script (Script1.py) for every request made simultaneously.
My code-
from subprocess import
Steven W. Orr wrote:
I hope I don't sound like I'm ranting :-(
I have created a module (called xlogging) which sets up logging the way I want
it. I found out that if I set up my logger without a name, then it gets
applied to every logger that is referenced by every module that ever gets
On 03/10/2011 11:22, Chris Rebert wrote:
http://docs.python.org/library/runpy.html :
The runpy module['s] main use is to implement the -m command line switch
If the supplied module name refers to a package rather than a normal
module, then that package is imported and the __main__ submodule
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On Oct 2, 4:43 pm, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
In all cases, we can be sure that the contradiction between the pair of
statements are genuine contradictions and not mere apparent
contradictions caused by narrow perspective or incomplete or erroneous
knowledge.
Hi!
I'm looking for a trick or hidden feature to make Python 3 automatically
call a main function but without programmers writing `if __name__ ==
__main__: ...`
I found rejected PEP 299, but i thought that maybe there's something new
already.
Here's why I want such a thing:
I'm teaching
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:54 AM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Observer: Why is it that Clark Kent and Superman are never in the same
place at the same time?
ComicFanboy: Because Clark Kent IS Kal-El's secret identity duh!
PuesdoWiseObserver: Wait a minute fanboy, they ARE in the
Make something with http://metapython.org/
?
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Aivar Annamaa aivar.anna...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I'm looking for a trick or hidden feature to make Python 3 automatically
call a main function but without programmers writing `if __name__ ==
__main__: ...`
I
Alex,
The question was not meant for you. I was responding to Greg's comment.
Regards,
Emeka
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Alexander Kapps alex.ka...@web.de wrote:
On 03.10.2011 00:15, Emeka wrote:
Greg,
Do you have an example where the Controller is connected?
What do you mean? In
I am running web.py on my computer
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:05:15 -0700, sillyou su wrote:
I am running web.py on my computer
Does netstat -nat | grep 8080 show anything listening on port 8080?
(I'm assuming here that you're running on a Linux box)
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:09:59 -0700, sillyou su wrote:
啊！！
I should use 127.0.0.1 instance of 0.0.0.0
Theoretically either one should be fine. If you use 127.0.0.1 it will
only expose the service to your local machine. If you use 0.0.0.0 ut will
expose the service to other computers on the
Rajashree Thorat wrote:
Please can anyone help me in resolving following problem.
import cmd
class CmdLineApp(cmd.Cmd):
def do_grep(self, line):
print line
option = [--ignore-case,
--invert-match,--word-regexp,--line-regexp]
def
Something is running in your port 8080. Change the port and try again.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Amelia T Cat ame...@catfolks.net wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:09:59 -0700, sillyou su wrote:
啊！！
I should use 127.0.0.1 instance of 0.0.0.0
Theoretically either one should be fine.
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Chris Withers wrote:
On 03/10/2011 11:22, Chris Rebert wrote:
http://docs.python.org/library/runpy.html :
The runpy module['s] main use is to implement the -m command line
switch
If the supplied module name refers to a package rather than a normal
module, then that
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Aivar Annamaa wrote:
Hi!
I'm looking for a trick or hidden feature to make Python 3 automatically
call a main function but without programmers writing `if __name__ ==
__main__: ...`
I found rejected PEP 299, but i thought that maybe there's something new
already.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dave Angel da...@ieee.org wrote:
Is it explaining the if statement that's the problem? If so, you could have
them do an unconditional main(sys.argv) at the bottom of their file, and not
bother putting an if statement in front of it. Then when you get to
Hello, I'm trying to build a menu which provides suggestions to a user
based on input to an entry. I have done something like this before
using Tcl/Tk, so I expected that it would work without much difficulty
with Tkinter. I was wrong.
The problem I have is that, as soon as the menu is posted,
On Oct 3, 2:14 pm, Dave Angel da...@ieee.org wrote:
Like it or not, there are plenty of globals already there, one of them
being __name__ . All the built-ins are effectively global, and so
is any function they define at top-level.
I keep wondering if that was another PyWart? I believe (and
Hi at all,
I have some problem with the httplib module, I would like have an HTTP
persistent connection but when run this code :
#first request
http_connection = httplib.HTTPConnection(host)
http_connection.request(method,url,headers=headers)
response = http_connection.getresponse()
#second
I forget to insert second request.
host = www.higuys.net
#first request
http_connection = httplib.HTTPConnection(host)
http_connection.request(method,url_first,headers=headers)
response = http_connection.getresponse()
#second request
http_connection = httplib.HTTPConnection(host)
On Oct 3, 2:55 pm, galyle gal...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to build a menu which provides suggestions to a user
based on input to an entry. I have done something like this before
using Tcl/Tk, so I expected that it would work without much difficulty
with Tkinter. I was wrong.
Why
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pulsarpie...@gmail.com writes:
I forget to insert second request.
host = www.higuys.net
#first request
http_connection = httplib.HTTPConnection(host)
http_connection.request(method,url_first,headers=headers)
On Oct 3, 11:27 am, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
PhysicsExpert: Super-speed wouldn't work, the acceleration required to
achieve it would burn up his surroundings!
For some definition of super-speed i suppose. Since we're bouncing
around the relatives here we need to consider this one
Because I am a newbye!!!
Thanks a lot for your answer!
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On Sep 5, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Simon Cropper wrote:
Dabo is a great product. Spoke extensively with Ed Leafe and Paul McNett.
Unfortunately the framework is not 'dynamic'. If you have an fixed database
and tables it can quite quickly create a basic data entry setup and menu.
Looks great when
Ian Kelly wrote:
I would suggest giving them the whole if __name__ block as boilerplate
and telling them they're not allowed to alter it.
I would suggest not showing them if __name__ at all;
instead encourage them to do this:
def main():
...
...
main()
You only need if __name__
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, rantingrick wrote:
On Oct 3, 2:14 pm, Dave Angelda...@ieee.org wrote:
Like it or not, there are plenty of globals already there, one of them
being __name__ . All the built-ins are effectively global, and so
is any function they define at top-level.
I keep
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 03:21:41 +0100, Andrew Berg
bahamutzero8...@gmail.com wrote:
I found a way to do it, albeit a very hackish one. Since the class
instance already catches exceptions from the modules it imports, I can
make a custom exception (in a common area for both it and the submodules
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:10 PM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Also for scoping.
py count = 0
py def foo():
... global.count += 1
py print count
1
Why? Well because many times i find myself wondering if this or that
variable is local or global -- and when i say global i am
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 09:50:42PM -0700, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
Is it possible to overload operators for a function?
For instance I would like to do something roughly like...
def func_maker():
def func(): pass
def __eq__(other):
if other == check: return True
return
On 10/03/2011 12:12 AM, Steven W. Orr wrote:
I hope I don't sound like I'm ranting :-(
I have created a module (called xlogging) which sets up logging the way I want
it. I found out that if I set up my logger without a name, then it gets
applied to every logger that is referenced by every
On Oct 3, 2:40 pm, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 3, 2:55 pm, galyle gal...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to build a menu which provides suggestions to a user
based on input to an entry. I have done something like this before
using Tcl/Tk, so I expected that it would
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
def add_from_input(num_lines):
total = global.sum(global.int(global.input()) for i in
global.range(num_lines))
global.print(The total is, total)
That's pretty unfair to the globals.
def
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 22:04:26 +1300, Gregory Ewing wrote:
os.setsid()
*This* is what's losing the tty. According to the Fine Man Page:
DESCRIPTION
The setsid function creates a new session. The calling process is the
session leader of the new session, is the process group
In article mailman.1702.1317670708.27778.python-l...@python.org,
Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not a good idea to teach bad habits they'll just have to unlearn
later on.
Absolutely correct. People who teach teachers how to teach call this
the Law of Primacy
On Oct 3, 12:45 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Wong Wah Meng-R32813
r32...@freescale.com wrote:
Hello guys,
I am migrating my application from python 1.5.2 to 2.7.1. I encountered an
error when I run some commands (I put in debug statement
On Oct 4, 2:15 am, Amelia T Cat ame...@catfolks.net wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:09:59 -0700, sillyou su wrote:
啊！！
I should use 127.0.0.1 instance of 0.0.0.0
Theoretically either one should be fine. If you use 127.0.0.1 it will
only expose the service to your local machine. If you use
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Why? Well because many times i find myself wondering if this or that
variable is local or global -- and when i say global i am speaking
of module scope! The globalDOT cures the ill.
Given your stated propensity for huge code blocks not chunked into
Sorry for hijacking Alec's response but I didn't see the OP.
Aivar Annamaa aivar.anna...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm looking for a trick or hidden feature to make Python 3 automatically
call a main function but without programmers writing `if __name__ ==
__main__: ...`
One direct way is to call
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
TrueWiseObserver: Wrong pseudo. Superman will ALWAYS be superman even
if he wears a dress and stilettos. Clark Kent is just an assumed
identity of Superman.
Actually, he identifies with Clark Kent, Superman is the secret
identity.
You're thinking of
:
On 4 October 2011 00:43, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote:
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Clark Kent is just an assumed identity of Superman.
Actually, he identifies with Clark Kent, Superman is the secret
identity.
You're thinking of Batman, for whom Bruce Wayne is the mask.
A
Mark Hammond skippy.hamm...@gmail.com added the comment:
This is biting people (including me :) so I'm going to try hard to get this
fixed. One user on the python-win32 mailing list resorts to rebuilding every
3rd party module he uses with this patch to get things working again (although
Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:
Are you using the .msi installer from python.org?
Or one from activestate or enthought?
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Are you using some unusual keyboard layout?
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Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment:
This issue is very similar to issue5707: it is possible to define a custom key
binding to Alt or Control: just click the Alt box and don't select a
letter.
There is no check, it's possible to save this buggy key binding, and IDLE won't
Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
FWIW there's also support.open_urlresource that can be used to download test
data. open_urlresouce calls requires('urlfetch') and skips the test when the
resource is not enabled. For instance, test_normalization uses it:
try:
Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:
It turns out that the proposed fix here for pydoc was independently added in
the early days of Python 3 but was not backported. That fix for 2.7 plus a
fix-in-progress for Issue7367 (for both 2.7 and 3.x) and additional test cases
(also in progress)
Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
The automatic conversion of 'u' to 'I' or 'L' causes test_buffer
(PEP-3118 repo) to fail:
# Not implemented formats. Ugly, but inevitable. This is the same as
# issue #2531: equality is also used for membership testing and must
# return
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Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
This is an interesting proposal.
The line number comes from Python/traceback.c:120:
tb-tb_lineno = PyFrame_GetLineNumber(frame);
and this function is defined in Objects/frameobject.c:35:
int PyFrame_GetLineNumber(PyFrameObject *f) {
Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
It would be better to use a format for a Py_UCS4 string, but struct doesn't
support such type.
PEP-3118 suggests for the extended struct syntax:
'c' - ucs-1 (latin-1) encoding
'u' - ucs-2
'w' - ucs-4
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Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
It's not a container type, just a small C struct that
gets allocated on the stack. Think of it as a library, like stringlib.
That's what I call a container type: a structure with a library :-)
That's another possibility. But we'd have
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
That's another possibility. But we'd have to expose a
C API anyway, and this one is as good as any other.
No, it's not: it's additional clutter. If new API needs to be added,
adding it for existing structures is better. Notice that you
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STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:
The automatic conversion of 'u' to 'I' or 'L' causes test_buffer
(PEP-3118 repo) to fail:
# Not implemented formats. Ugly, but inevitable. This is the same as
# issue #2531: equality is also used for membership testing and must
Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:
STINNER Victor rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
# Not implemented formats. Ugly, but inevitable. This is the same as
# issue #2531: equality is also used for membership testing and must
# return a result.
a = array.array('u', 'xyz')
New submission from Tomáš Dvořák dvto...@gmail.com:
I have this python script, and run it in python 2.7.2 (installed from EPD_free
7.1-2 (32-bit), but I guess this has nothing to do with EPD.
8---fail.py--
class X(object):
pass
x = X()
items = [foo, bar, baz]
for each in items:
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:
Sorry. It is intended behavior. The lambda 'each' is bound to the local
'each', and by the time the lambda's execute, the value of 'each' is 'baz'.
I'm going to turn this into a doc bug, because while I'm pretty sure this is
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Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
To understand better what's going on, try to change the value of 'each' after
the 3 prints and then call again the 3 methods: you will see that they now
return the new value of each. This is because the lambdas refer to global
'each'
Tomáš Dvořák dvto...@gmail.com added the comment:
Thank you all very much for the super-quick responses. I'm used to smalltalk,
so the python variable binding behaviour is unnatural to me, but I guess there
must have been some reasons for making it behave this way.
Ezio, the
lambda
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Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
Maybe with a different name is less confusing: lambda return_value=each:
return_value
This copies the value of 'each' in a variable called 'return_value' that is
local to the lambda. Since the copy happens when the lambdas are defined,
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Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:
Hello,
method:: socket.getsockopt(level, optname[, optarg])
The overloading of the third parameter is confusing: it can already be an
integer value or a buffer size, I don't think that adding a third possibility
is a good idea. It
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
There are no official English titling rules and as you noted,
publishers vary.
If there aren't any rules, then how come all book and movie titles always
look the same? :)
Can we please leave the English language out of this issue?
Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:
The patch is pretty much complete, it just needs a review (I left some comments
on the review page).
One thing that can be added is some compression for the names of the named
sequences. I'm not sure I can reuse the same compression used
Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment:
New changeset 4378bae6b8dc by Charles-François Natali in branch 'default':
Issue #13001: Fix test_socket.testRecvmsgTrunc failure on FreeBSD 8, which
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4378bae6b8dc
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Hi Charles-François,
I've attached an update for the previous patch. Now there's no more overloading
for the third argument and socket.getsockopt accepts one more optional argument
-- a buffer to use as an input to kernel.
I can
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Should the input of OSError be checked?
It could, but pre-PEP it is not, so I assumed it's better to minimize
compatibility-breaking changes.
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Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:
Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file23307/554524a74bbe.diff
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
Patch update against latest default. There shouldn't be anything interesting to
see.
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New submission from Cal Leeming cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk:
After a while of digging around, I noticed that the core libs don't provide an
easy way of splitting a list/tuple into chunks - as per the following
discussion:
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
The patch needs to take versioning into account. It seems that NamedSequences
where added in 4.1, and NameAliases in 5.0. So for the moment, when using 3.2
(i.e. when self is not NULL), it is fine to lookup neither. Please put an
assertion
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