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CAMERON ALLEY wrote:
> IT WORKS I didn't change my activestate, but I downloaded python
> 3.2.2 with the 32 bit installer and it works! Perfectally!!
>
> Sir you're my savior, thank you so much.
>
> I don't know
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Laurent wrote:
> Yes using a separate class variable would transfer the problem to the class
> level. But adding 10 class variables if I have 10 properties would be ugly.
> Maybe I should reformulate the subject of this thread to "is there some
> python magic to
Laurent wrote:
> Yes using a separate class variable would transfer the problem to
> the class level. But adding 10 class variables if I have 10
> properties would be ugly. Maybe I should reformulate the subject of
> this thread to "is there some python magic to pass parameters to
> decorator-decl
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
>> '--' not being allowed for a name has *nothing* to do with exec, and
>> everything to do with `--` not being a valid Python identifier.
>
> The only reason valid python identifiers come into it at all is
> because they get pasted into a string where identifiers would g
Yes using a separate class variable would transfer the problem to the class
level. But adding 10 class variables if I have 10 properties would be ugly.
Maybe I should reformulate the subject of this thread to "is there some python
magic to pass parameters to decorator-declared properties ?"
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On Nov 11, 2:03 pm, Laurent wrote:
> Hi. I couldn't find a way to overwrite a property declared using a decorator
> in a parent class.
> class Polite:
> @property
> def greeting2(self, suffix=", my dear."):
> return self._greeting + suffix
Here you set up greeting2 as a property
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> You will notice both of them keep the field name validation.
There are lots of reasons for that to be the case. To me, the most
likely one just seems to be that you don't want to remove more than
necessary when changing the way something works under the hood -- both
for compatibility reasons, an
On Nov 10, 7:27 pm, Ned Deily wrote:
> That's an odd one; I've not seen a crash like that before. From the
> crash dump, it is clear that the crash is happening inside of Tk, not
> Python, and, judging from the symbol names, it has something to do with
> menu initialization and colors.
>
> Try ru
Hi. I couldn't find a way to overwrite a property declared using a decorator in
a parent class. I can only do this if I use the "classic" property() method
along with a getter function. Here's an example:
#!/usr/bin/python3
class Polite:
def __init__(self):
self._greeting = "He
A general description of my issue.
To my understand, python's feature such as "name-reference-object" and
"garbage collection" system did some of work for you, it makes your life
easier, but you still need to add your explicit application in your code.
For example,
Composition implementation: you
2011/11/11 tkp...@hotmail.com
> We are in the process of trying to decide between Python 2.7 and 3.2
> with a view to making a 5-10 year commitment to the right platform,
> and would appreciate some guidance on how best to connect to SQL
> databases in 3.2. ceODBC 2.01 provides an ODBC driver for
2011/11/11 Chris Angelico
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Chris Kaynor
> wrote:
> > Continuing this OT discussion, would it be a brain transplant, or a
> > full body transplant?
>
> It's just a rebinding. You don't move the body, you just bind your
> name to a new body. It's perfectly legal
2011/11/11 Terry Reedy
> On 11/10/2011 9:31 AM, Jerry Zhang wrote:
>
> Unfortunately there is a difference between composition and
>>aggregation in my real word, and my application really care this
>>since it is trying to simulate this real world model, so my system
>>should track
2011/11/11 Benjamin Kaplan
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jerry Zhang
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I just did an example code to describe what i am looking for.
> >
> /**/
> > # ...
> >
> > class Head:
>
A common problem when you generate executable on Windows 7 and deploy
on Windows XP.
According with the py2exe tutorial, you need include the MVC DLL. But
the tutorial is old and the script given search only in one directory.
Before, the directory contained all DLL and the manifest, but nowadays
i
In article
<3c2688bd-4f87-4eb1-9b40-3cb536a2d...@e3g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>,
CAMERON ALLEY wrote:
> Lemme preface this post by saying the following - I've taken my
> computer to the local IT office on RIT campus, asked a Computer
> Science professor specializing in Python, and posted my questi
On 11/10/2011 5:40 PM, CAMERON ALLEY wrote:
Okay, so the problem. I tried to install Python 2.7 about two months
ago on both my laptop and iMac. Both are running up-to-date Mac OS X
10.6, with 64-bit processors and around 2.4GHz speed and 2G of RAM. My
laptop installed python 2.7 and ran it perf
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Chris Kaynor wrote:
> Continuing this OT discussion, would it be a brain transplant, or a
> full body transplant?
It's just a rebinding. You don't move the body, you just bind your
name to a new body. It's perfectly legal to have two names bound to
one body (cf D
On Nov 10, 6:11 pm, John Gordon wrote:
> In <3c2688bd-4f87-4eb1-9b40-3cb536a2d...@e3g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> CAMERON
> ALLEY writes:
>
> > Okay, so the problem. I tried to install Python 2.7 about two months
> > ago on both my laptop and iMac. Both are running up-to-date Mac OS X
> > 10.6, wit
In <3c2688bd-4f87-4eb1-9b40-3cb536a2d...@e3g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> CAMERON
ALLEY writes:
> Okay, so the problem. I tried to install Python 2.7 about two months
> ago on both my laptop and iMac. Both are running up-to-date Mac OS X
> 10.6, with 64-bit processors and around 2.4GHz speed and 2G
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:38:58 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
>> I will point out that in the real world, dead donor transplants are
>> based on the fact the parts of the body do NOT have to die when the
>> composition does. I will not be surpri
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:37:05 -0500, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
>> '--' not being allowed for a name has *nothing* to do with exec, and
>> everything to do with `--` not being a valid Python identifier.
>
> The only reason valid python identifiers come into it at all is because
> they get pasted into
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:19:18 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
> wrote:
>> Of course not. I do, however, think that it's conceivable that I'd want
>> to key a namedtuple by an invalid identifier, and to do that, yes, I'd
>> need to use getattr().
>
> Car
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
The only reason valid python identifiers come into it at all is
because they get pasted into a string where identifiers would go, and
that string is passed to exec().
So really, does it have "nothing" to do with exec? Or does your
argument eventually boil down to the use
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:38:58 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
> I will point out that in the real world, dead donor transplants are
> based on the fact the parts of the body do NOT have to die when the
> composition does. I will not be surprised if we someday see arm
> transplants.
And Guido's Time Mach
Lemme preface this post by saying the following - I've taken my
computer to the local IT office on RIT campus, asked a Computer
Science professor specializing in Python, and posted my question on
answers.yahoo.com (I don't know why I expected that to work...). I've
also googled my problem multiple
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote:
> I am trying to write a decorator that times an instance method and
> writes the results to a class member variable. For example:
>
> def timeMethod(func):
> def wrapper(self, *args, **keyArgs):
> t1 = time.time()
> res = fu
I am trying to write a decorator that times an instance method and
writes the results to a class member variable. For example:
def timeMethod(func):
def wrapper(self, *args, **keyArgs):
t1 = time.time()
res = func(self, *args, **keyArgs)
duration = time.time() - t1
I have released pyKook
0.7.1.http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Kook/http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kook/http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kook/pykook-users-guide.html
pyKook is a task automation tool for Python, similar to Rake or Ant.
Bugfix in this release--
* Fixed to include 'kook/books/*.py'
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Devin Jeanpierre
wrote:
> Of course not. I do, however, think that it's conceivable that I'd
> want to key a namedtuple by an invalid identifier, and to do that,
> yes, I'd need to use getattr().
Care to give a real use case? You could even go a step further and
Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
You're still misunderstanding Python's object model. del does NOT
delete an object. It deletes a name. The only way for an object to be
deleted is for it to be inaccessible (there are no references to it,
or there are no reachable references to it).
foo = object()
bar = fo
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> Hey. I don't know the details, but your setup.py needs to use either the
> 'package_data' or the 'data_files' entry in the dict you pass to setup. These
> can specify files you want included in the sdist which aren't package files.
>
> T
> '--' not being allowed for a name has *nothing* to do with exec, and
> everything to do with `--` not being a valid Python identifier.
The only reason valid python identifiers come into it at all is
because they get pasted into a string where identifiers would go, and
that string is passed to ex
For now, get started in Python 2.7. Write code with an eye to 3.x
portability, and you will be fine. You probably won't see 3.x
overtake 2.x for at least 3-4 years, and a decent amount of stuff is
still 2.x only. Since it sounds like you are a windows/net shop, go
ahead and use Iron Python.
SQL
John Nagle wrote:
> On 11/7/2011 1:00 PM, OKB (not okblacke) wrote:
>> I noticed this (Python 2.6.5 on Windows XP):
>
> CPython is slow. It's a naive interpreter. There's
> almost no optimization during compilation. Try PyPy
> or Shed Skin.
PyPy is interesting, but I use
On 11/10/2011 9:31 AM, Jerry Zhang wrote:
Unfortunately there is a difference between composition and
aggregation in my real word, and my application really care this
since it is trying to simulate this real world model, so my system
should track this difference accurately, other
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jerry Zhang wrote:
>
>
> I just did an example code to describe what i am looking for.
> /**/
> # ...
>
> class Head:
> def __init__(self):
> self.size = 5
>
On 11/10/2011 3:51 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Because Python doesn't allow "--" to be an attribute name, and so
namedtuple doesn't let you try:
t = namedtuple("T", "foo -- bar")(1, 2, 3)
print(t.foo)
print(t.--)
print(t.bar)
'--' is a valid attribute name on virtually any object that support
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Well. It reads fine in a certain sense, in that I can figure out
what's going on (although I have some troubles figuring out why the
heck certain things are in the code). The issue is that what's going
on is otherworldly: this is not a Python pattern, this is not a normal
We are in the process of trying to decide between Python 2.7 and 3.2
with a view to making a 5-10 year commitment to the right platform,
and would appreciate some guidance on how best to connect to SQL
databases in 3.2. ceODBC 2.01 provides an ODBC driver for Python 3.2,
does anyone have experience
2011/11/11 Christian Heimes
> Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb Tim Wintle:
> >> Meanwhile, I have a ZODB running, which stores all the living
> >> objects.
> >
> > The ZODB is append only and stores all objects. Deleting references to
> > an object (which would causes deletion of standard python obje
2011/11/11 Tim Wintle
> On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 22:25 +0800, Jerry Zhang wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2011/11/10 Chris Angelico
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jerry Zhang
> > wrote:
> > > Cls_a:
> > > def __init__(self):
> > > self.at1 = 1
> >
On 11/10/2011 05:02 PM, Eric Snow wrote:
Yeah, I'm working on a reference for imports in Python. They're just
a little too mysterious relative to the rest of the language. But
it's not too helpful yet. In the meantime...
Yes it's quite mysterious, and it's actually not as hard as it looks..
On 10-Nov-2011 16:16, Jerry Zhang wrote:
2011/11/10 Virgil Stokes mailto:v...@it.uu.se>>
Python seems like a good language to use for agent-based modeling.
However, before starting to work on a Python package for this, I would be
very interested in knowing about any existing Python
Am 10.11.2011 17:09, schrieb Tim Wintle:
>> Meanwhile, I have a ZODB running, which stores all the living
>> objects.
>
> The ZODB is append only and stores all objects. Deleting references to
> an object (which would causes deletion of standard python objects) won't
> delete it from the zodb, it
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 22:25 +0800, Jerry Zhang wrote:
>
>
> 2011/11/10 Chris Angelico
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jerry Zhang
> wrote:
> > Cls_a:
> > def __init__(self):
> > self.at1 = 1
> > Cls_b:
> > def __init__(
So I would really like to accomplish the following:
run a program normally and keep track of all the imports that were
actually done.
I studied the PEP 302, but I'm still a bit confused about how to do it.
I thought that instead of implementing everything I could just record
the request
and
2011/11/10 Virgil Stokes
> Python seems like a good language to use for agent-based modeling.
> However, before starting to work on a Python package for this, I would be
> very interested in knowing about any existing Python code for agent-based
> modeling.
>
I am assuming you are talking about
Python seems like a good language to use for agent-based modeling. However,
before starting to work on a Python package for this, I would be very interested
in knowing about any existing Python code for agent-based modeling.
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2011/11/10 Jerry Zhang
>
>
> 2011/11/10 Chris Angelico
>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jerry Zhang
>> wrote:
>> > Cls_a:
>> > def __init__(self):
>> > self.at1 = 1
>> > Cls_b:
>> > def __init__(self):
>> > self.com1 = Cls_a()
>> > def __del__(self):
>> >
2011/11/10 Chris Angelico
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jerry Zhang
> wrote:
> > Cls_a:
> > def __init__(self):
> > self.at1 = 1
> > Cls_b:
> > def __init__(self):
> > self.com1 = Cls_a()
> > def __del__(self):
> > del self.com1
> > Is it a right impleme
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jerry Zhang wrote:
> Cls_a:
> def __init__(self):
> self.at1 = 1
> Cls_b:
> def __init__(self):
> self.com1 = Cls_a()
> def __del__(self):
> del self.com1
> Is it a right implementation for composition?
Yes, except that you don
Hi Chris,
Firstly thanks for your quick reply.
1. Your code example gives a point, but i may not reach my question yet,
maybe because i did not make myself understood yet. Here is a more detail
example question.
I have a classes sets described by UML, which could be refered as Cls_A,
Cls_B, CLs_
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jerry Zhang wrote:
> For example, in composition model, the container object may be responsible
> for the handling of embedded objects' lifecycle. What is the python pattern
> of such implementation?
Here's an example:
class Test(object):
def __init__(self):
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 08:13:13 AM Devin Jeanpierre did opine:
> > I don't expect you to take my word on it (and why should you, I could
> > be an idiot or a sock-puppet), but you could always try googling for
> > "Raymond Hettinger python" and see what comes up. He is not some
> > fly-by
Greetings:
As you know, there are several kinds of relationships between classes in
the UML -- dependency, association, aggregation, composition.
Q1. Is there any article or code example on its implementation in python?
Q2. For example, in composition model, the container object may be
responsible
Hi,
I want to sub-class the datetime.timezone class, but when I derive from
datetime.timezone I get an error message "TypeError: type
'datetime.timezone' is not an acceptable base type".
Why do I get this error? Is there something specific to do to avoid it?
Below is an example of code:
Python 3
What's new in dao 0.7.4?
*Release date: 2011-11-10
* new in code:
* quasiquote, unquote, unquote_slicing is implemented.
* directly evaluate sexpression in solver
* some builtins for define, set and get global, outer and local var
Hey. I don't know the details, but your setup.py needs to use either the
'package_data' or the 'data_files' entry in the dict you pass to setup. These
can specify files you want included in the sdist which aren't package files.
There are many complications with using them though. One of them in
> I don't expect you to take my word on it (and why should you, I could be
> an idiot or a sock-puppet), but you could always try googling for
> "Raymond Hettinger python" and see what comes up. He is not some fly-by
> Python coder who snuck some dubious n00b code into the standard library
> when n
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