On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 3:55 PM, John Ladasky
wrote:
> Shush! That's one of Python's most closely-guarded secrets! Every
> politician on Earth will want to learn to program in Python after seeing that!
>
Not really, the legal profession has known about this for centuries.
(Princess Zara, pres
Arthur Clarck writes:
> ...
> The problem I have now is the following.
> I have a script to connect to some telecom service.
> The script is forking (parent/child)
> The child is only reading what comes from the remote server.
> Here the problematic code:
>
> total = ''
> while True:
>data = s
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 6:10:29 AM UTC-7, explode...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can some one explain why this happens:
>
> True, False = False, True
>
> print True, False
>
> False True
Shush! That's one of Python's most closely-guarded secrets! Every politician
on Earth will want to learn to p
let me paste it again to make my question more clear:
>>>c2.d
__get__() is called <__main__.C2 object at 0x0297BE10>
<__main__.C object at 0x0297BBA8>
>>> c2.d.a
__get__() is called <__main__.C2 object at 0x0297BE10>
__getattribute__() is cal
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:54:05 PM UTC+5:30, Алексей Саскевич wrote:
> binario is the Python package that lets an application read/write primitive
> data types from an underlying input/output file as binary data.
> Package on PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/binario
> Package on GitHub: ht
On 08/23/2014 11:25 AM, CHIN Dihedral wrote:
> Well, an object in python can add
> properties in the run-time to evolve
> steadily and stealthly.
>
> Those unnessary set-get-C++ methods
> are not very important in PYTHON.
That's the most coherent thing I've seen from Dihedral in years!
--
htt
On 8/23/14 7:44 PM, luofeiyu wrote:
Think for your remark " You didn't delete the name property, which is
part of the class, not the instance."
I fix my codes to get the target done.
class Person(object):
def addProperty(self, attribute):
getter = lambda self: self._getPr
Think for your remark " You didn't delete the name property, which is
part of the class, not the instance."
I fix my codes to get the target done.
class Person(object):
def addProperty(self, attribute):
getter = lambda self: self._getProperty(attribute)
setter
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, luofeiyu wrote:
> dear ChrisA ,dynamic is python feature, it is to create descriptor in run
> time ,
> that is the meaning in the codes,and maybe it is a bug:
>
> the attribute can be displayed in dir(man) after be deleted.
Then you don't need descriptors at al
dear ChrisA ,dynamic is python feature, it is to create descriptor in
run time ,
that is the meaning in the codes,and maybe it is a bug:
the attribute can be displayed in dir(man) after be deleted.
On 8/24/2014 6:56 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:49 AM, luofeiyu wro
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:49 PM, luofeiyu wrote:
>
> class Person(object):
>def addProperty(self, attribute):
> getter = lambda self: self._getProperty(attribute)
> setter = lambda self, value: self._setProperty(attribute,
value)
> deletter = lambd
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
> On 23 August 2014 23:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
>>> So for one "import math" should never go inside a function; you should
>>> hoist it to the top of the file with all the other import
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:49 AM, luofeiyu wrote:
> class Person(object):
>def addProperty(self, attribute):
> getter = lambda self: self._getProperty(attribute)
> setter = lambda self, value: self._setProperty(attribute,
> value)
> deletter = lambd
Anders Wegge Keller :
> Curiously enough, even today the same lousy kind of connections
> prevail. We still have a sizeable modem bank at my job. We still do
> our remote support over a telnet/ssh session. And we still are unable
> to reliable get the connection speeds[2], that would make anythin
class Person(object):
def addProperty(self, attribute):
getter = lambda self: self._getProperty(attribute)
setter = lambda self, value: self._setProperty(attribute,
value)
deletter = lambda self:self.delProperty(attribute)
setattr(se
On 23 August 2014 23:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> So for one "import math" should never go inside a function; you should
>> hoist it to the top of the file with all the other imports.
>
> I'd say "never" is too strong (there are times when i
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Joshua Landau wrote:
> So for one "import math" should never go inside a function; you should
> hoist it to the top of the file with all the other imports.
I'd say "never" is too strong (there are times when it's right to put
an import inside a function), but yes,
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:52:09 +0100, Joshua Landau
wrote:
>On 23 August 2014 18:47, Seymore4Head wrote:
>> Anyone care to suggest what method to use to fix the decimal format?
>
>It sounds like you want a primer on floating point. The documentation
>of the decimal module is actually a good read,
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:56:11 +1000
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Despite my comments, I don't actually have any objection to people who
> choose to use Emacs, or Vim, or edit their text files by poking the hard
> drive platter with a magnetised needle if they prefer :-) But I do think
> it's silly of
On Sunday, August 24, 2014 2:27:56 AM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
> Ay, so is any editor with an API. I use Sublime mostly because it's
> pretty, fast and has a Python-based API. The only actual feature it
> has that some others don't is multiple selections, and even then a lot
> do.
You mean
On 23 August 2014 22:13, Seymore4Head wrote:
> def make_it_money(number):
> import math
> return '
> + str(format(math.floor(number * 100) / 100, ',.2f'))
So for one "import math" should never go inside a function; you should
hoist it to the top of the file with all the other imports.
Yo
On 23 August 2014 18:47, Seymore4Head wrote:
> Anyone care to suggest what method to use to fix the decimal format?
It sounds like you want a primer on floating point. The documentation
of the decimal module is actually a good read, although I don't doubt
there are even better resources somewhere
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:47:20 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:
>I am trying to do this example:
>http://openbookproject.net/pybiblio/practice/wilson/loan.php
>The instructions warn that floating point math can get messy so I
>cheated a little bit to get me going.
>
>I made my program work by using numbe
Philipp Kraus wrote:
> I have create a short script:
>
> -
> #!/usr/bin/env python
>
> import re, urllib2
>
>
> def URLReader(url) :
> f = urllib2.urlopen(url)
> data = f.read()
> f.close()
> return data
>
>
> print re.match( "\.*\<\/small\>",
> URLReader("http://sour
On 23 August 2014 17:17, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 23.08.14 16:19, schrieb Joshua Landau:
>>
>> On 23 August 2014 10:41, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
>>>
>>> Sometimes I impress my colleagues with what they call "magic", i.e.
>>> creating
>>> special repeated lists of numbers by a few keyst
On 8/23/2014 10:21 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Wordperfect was one of the best wysiwyg editors Ive used.
One could use it in normal (1-screen) mode
Or one could split the screen and see the formattings in the lower window
along withe the formatted in the upper.
I wrote at least two books with Wordp
Hi,
On 2014-08-16 09:01:57 +, Peter Otten said:
Philipp Kraus wrote:
The code works till last week correctly, I don't change the pattern.
Websites' contents and structure change sometimes.
My question is, can it be a problem with string encoding?
Your regex is all-ascii. So an encod
On 23/08/2014 20:48, Seymore4Head wrote:
Thanks for the links. The python-course looks like a beginner start.
It raises one more question.
Some have suggested using strings. I understand that strings and
numbers are not the same thing. I know that converting numbers to
strings can be useful
On 2014-08-23 15:19, Joshua Landau wrote:
> I have yet to be truly impressed by Vim, in that Sublime Text with a
> few extensions seems to do the same things just as easily
Can it be run remotely in a tmux session which can be accessed via
SSH from multiple machines? ;-)
Using the command-line:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:56:29 -0700, Ed Joz wrote:
> Please suggest a sample python code.
while program result not correct:
fix program
Note - we are not here to write your code for you, but we will try and
help you develop your own code to do what you want.
--
Denis McMahon, denismfmc
On 2014-08-23 19:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Sorry, but I have no idea what you mean by "orthogonal set of verbs
> and nouns in an editing language". Can you explain?
In the context of vi/vim, an "orthogonal set of verbs and nouns in an
editing language" mean that you have a collection of verbs
(
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:41 +0100, Mark Lawrence
wrote:
>On 23/08/2014 20:07, Seymore4Head wrote:
>>
>> Funny, I though using the web would be better than a book. I don't
>> think so anymore. Using the web, it is hard to find square one
>> tutorial text.
>>
>
>Try typing something like "python
On 23/08/2014 20:07, Seymore4Head wrote:
Funny, I though using the web would be better than a book. I don't
think so anymore. Using the web, it is hard to find square one
tutorial text.
Try typing something like "python string formatting tutorial" into your
favourite search engine and you'
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Seymore4Head
wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:21:03 -0400, Joel Goldstick
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Seymore4Head
>> wrote:
>>> I am trying to do this example:
>>> http://openbookproject.net/pybiblio/practice/wilson/loan.php
>>> The instructions
On 23/08/2014 19:56, Ed Joz wrote:
I got an excel sheet having,2 blocks of data in 2 different formats, in any
given cell.
Lets take cell A1 for example, 1st block has font = Arial, character size =10
2nd block has font = Times New Roman, character size = 16 OR **no data**
sample: "abcd123
P
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:21:03 -0400, Joel Goldstick
wrote:
>On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Seymore4Head
> wrote:
>> I am trying to do this example:
>> http://openbookproject.net/pybiblio/practice/wilson/loan.php
>> The instructions warn that floating point math can get messy so I
>> cheated a li
On 8/23/2014 8:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
WYSIWYG editors allow that -- can make a huge difference to beginners
who find music hard to read.
Here's an example I typed out in the wysiwig editor nted
https://vimeo.com/16894001 ¹
"Awww, snap!
This video can’t be played with your current setup"
H
I got an excel sheet having,2 blocks of data in 2 different formats, in any
given cell.
Lets take cell A1 for example, 1st block has font = Arial, character size =10
2nd block has font = Times New Roman, character size = 16 OR **no data**
sample: "abcd123
PQRS456"
A python code need to be dev
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Seymore4Head
wrote:
> I am trying to do this example:
> http://openbookproject.net/pybiblio/practice/wilson/loan.php
> The instructions warn that floating point math can get messy so I
> cheated a little bit to get me going.
>
> I made my program work by using numb
I am trying to do this example:
http://openbookproject.net/pybiblio/practice/wilson/loan.php
The instructions warn that floating point math can get messy so I
cheated a little bit to get me going.
I made my program work by using numbers that wouldn't get messy.
Instead of using 6% interest I used
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:29:44 AM UTC+8, luofeiyu wrote:
> One final version:
>
>
>
> class Contact(object):
>
> def __init__(self, email="haha@haha"):
>
> self.email = email
>
> def _get_email(self):
>
> return self._the_secret_private_email
>
> def _
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:08:10 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> Rob Gaddi :
>>
>>> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves
>>
>> Really now?
>>
>> When you start emacs, it advises you to start the builtin tutorial.
>
> You need a tutorial for a text editor???
Did you
mm0fmf :
> On 22/08/2014 18:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> SCons gives you the power of Python. Don't use that
>> power except in utmost need.
>
> Ah, you've seen our build system at work!
Where I've used SCons, I've striven to make the SConscript files obvious
to a casual visitor, who might not ev
On 22/08/2014 18:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
SCons gives you the power of Python. Don't use that
power except in utmost need.
Ah, you've seen our build system at work!
Andy
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binario is the Python package that lets an application read/write primitive
data types from an underlying input/output file as binary data.
Package on PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/binario
Package on GitHub: https://github.com/asaskevich/binario
Docs: http://binarios-docs.readthedocs.org/en/
Am 23.08.14 16:19, schrieb Joshua Landau:
(Since this is already an editor war...)
On 23 August 2014 10:41, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Sometimes I impress my colleagues with what they call "magic", i.e. creating
special repeated lists of numbers by a few keystrokes in gvim, and that has
trigg
Hi Steven,
I agree with all you said.
Am 23.08.14 16:56, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
There are ways to put these editors into Beginner's mode, for vim there
is "evim", and for sure emacs has something similar, where the editor
behaves more like you expect. In evim, thi
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:19:29 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:
>Is there a way to indent everything again?
>
>Say I have a while statement with several lines of code and I want to
>add a while outside that. That means indenting everything. Is there
>a global way to do that?
I did two things. I decid
Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 23.08.14 11:08, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
>> This is the moment that I decide to give up on Emacs and take up
>> something trivial in comparison, like being a Soyuz pilot, если вы
>> знаете, что я имею в виду.
>
> Well done, Steve! This is the exact reason that I d
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 2:38:10 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> > Rob Gaddi :
> >> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves
> > Really now?
> > When you start emacs, it advises you to start the builtin tutorial.
> You need a tutorial for a text editor???
>
On Saturday 23 August 2014 06:17:24 alister did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:19:21 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > Rob Gaddi wrote:
> >> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves that I've decided
> >> aren't worth climbing.
> >
> > In my opinion, they are designed for p
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 7:32:12 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > Here is an example (not identical but analogous to) where markup+compile is
> > distinctly weaker than wysiwyg:
> > You can use lilypond to type music and the use a midi player to
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> I don't know how fast lilypond is, but perhaps one could write an editor
> that wraps lilypond and invokes it in realtime to show the output in an
> adjacent panel, perhaps with a brief delay when the user stops typing.
You theoretically could,
(Since this is already an editor war...)
On 23 August 2014 10:41, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Sometimes I impress my colleagues with what they call "magic", i.e. creating
> special repeated lists of numbers by a few keystrokes in gvim, and that has
> triggered the request from them to learn a b
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Here is an example (not identical but analogous to) where markup+compile
is
> distinctly weaker than wysiwyg:
>
> You can use lilypond to type music and the use a midi player to play it
> But lilypond does not allow playing and seeing-in-realti
wrote:
Can some one explain why this happens:
True, False = False, True
print True, False
False True
I assume the value of True and False can be falsified. Like the 'None'
object can be. So swapping their values and printing them is similar to:
a = 0
b = 1
a, b = b, a
print a, b
Except t
explodeandr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can some one explain why this happens:
> True, False = False, True
> print True, False
> False True
You are using Python 2 where True/False are names that can be rebound. This
is for backwards compatibility as Python didn't always have booleans and
people made
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM, wrote:
> Can some one explain why this happens:
> True, False = False, True
> print True, False
> False True
Well, the first line changes the meanings of the names "True" and
"False", but doesn't change the things they point to. Those things
describe themselves
Can some one explain why this happens:
True, False = False, True
print True, False
False True
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Here is an example (not identical but analogous to) where markup+compile is
> distinctly weaker than wysiwyg:
>
> You can use lilypond to type music and the use a midi player to play it
> But lilypond does not allow playing and seeing-in-realt
On Saturday, August 23, 2014 3:19:37 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 08/22/2014 02:06 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> >> I tend to think the opposite: C++ barely has a niche left. I definitely
> >> wouldn't want to use C++ very far fro
On 22/08/2014 20:46, Seymore4Head wrote:
http://gvim.en.softonic.com/ Has a snazzy look, but I think it is not
compatible with Windows so it looks like I might have to try Emacs.
Others will disagree but I find keeping Windows and *nix separate helps
me a lot.
So I'll use emacs on Linux fo
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:19:21 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Rob Gaddi wrote:
>
>> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves that I've decided aren't
>> worth climbing.
>
> In my opinion, they are designed for people willing and able to commit
> to memory dozens, even hundreds, of obscure key
Am 23.08.14 11:08, schrieb Steven D'Aprano:
I just started up emacs, and got a GUI window with an abstract picture of a
gnu and a bunch of instructions which I didn't get a chance to read. I
clicked on the text, and the instructions disappeared. I don't know how to
get them back. They were replac
Dan Stromberg wrote:
> The first time I saw vi, I hated it. I thought "Why would anyone
> actually choose such a terrible editor?"
>
> But then I was forced to use vi for a while, and I'm glad I was. I
> choose it over other editors now. vi/vim give you a pretty much
> orthogonal set of verbs
Steven D'Aprano :
> Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> When you start emacs, it advises you to start the builtin tutorial.
>
> You need a tutorial for a text editor???
>
> If that's supposed to prove how easy Emacs is, you have failed
> miserably.
You see, I tend to read even the assembly instructions of I
Travis Griggs wrote:
> I do not like the python lambda. For two reasons.
>
> One: In a language that sought to be approachable by simple people (i.e.
> non computer science graduates who would use it in addition to their
> scientific/education background), I can’t believe they threw in a 6
> char
Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> Rob Gaddi :
>
>> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves
>
> Really now?
>
> When you start emacs, it advises you to start the builtin tutorial.
You need a tutorial for a text editor???
If that's supposed to prove how easy Emacs is, you have failed miserably.
Any
Arthur Clarck :
> What is happening is that I got some datas from the remote site,
> Something like 'Contacting BH: ...'
> But directly followed by 'remote site is closed.
This works:
#!/usr/bin/env python3
import sys, soc
I forgot to mention that with this code:
total = ''
while True:
data = s.recv(1024)
total += data
if (total != ''):
print total
total = ''
Everything is fine.
I am still looping but I get the complete data flow sent by the remote server.
The data flow is not corrupted
Hello,
I am starting socket scripting with python.
I do understand from the doc that a socket is bmocking by default.
I wrote 2 basics script to verify this behaviour.
my "tcp_server.py":
import socket, sys
s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
HOST = '192.168.0.103'
PORT = 106
Rob Gaddi wrote:
> Emacs and vim both have huge learning curves that I've decided aren't
> worth climbing.
In my opinion, they are designed for people willing and able to commit to
memory dozens, even hundreds, of obscure key sequences to get the simplest
thing done. They are not designed for e
Seymore4Head wrote:
> Is there a way to indent everything again?
>
> Say I have a while statement with several lines of code and I want to
> add a while outside that. That means indenting everything. Is there
> a global way to do that?
In kwrite, kate, geany, and any other sensible editor, you
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Paul Rudin wrote:
> I'm unconvinced is that e.g. LaTeX is inherently more "expert" that Word
> for simple document preparation. It's mostly a question of familiarity.
I think LaTeX probably is, in the same way that PhotoShop or Gimp is
more expert than a simple pa
You can copy it into vim,and input :%< ,the codes will be changed
into well formatted.
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Dan Stromberg :
> Please don't add multiline lambdas to Python.
Agree.
> Multiline lambdas give rise (in a big way) to the
> computer-language-equivalent of run-on sentences.
Lambdas are perfect in Scheme because they are idiomatic in it. They
carry a visual meaning and flow nicely with the par
I edit it in the vim in well formatted form,when copied into email ,the
format changed ,i don't know why.
My email editor is thunderbird, you can try it as i say.
I didn't mean to .
By posting code with an extra indent, you make it imposible to run by
just cutting and pasting. You should alre
Chris Angelico writes:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 3:56 PM, dieter wrote:
>> Chris Angelico writes:
>>> Frankly, I wouldn't write OO in anything, because I think the entire
>>> concept of a WYSIWYG editor is flawed.
>>
>> That would limit (so called) office applications to experts only.
>> But th
Chris Angelico :
> I'm just saying that callbacks are inherently restrictive in a
> language without first-class functions.
You don't have to go that far to have great callback support. C# (and
Delphi) show a great model that I wish C++ had adopted from the
beginning. C++ could have declared that
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