On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:54 AM, Jussi Piitulainen
> wrote:
>> I wasn't sure if it makes a copy or just returns the dict. But it's
>> true: help(dict) says dict(mapping) is a "new dictionary initialized
>> from a mapping object's (key, value) pairs".
> Yep. With mutable objects, Python's docs ar
Gilmeh Serda writes:
> Is there something that can be done when writing JSON using its dump/
> dumps feature so, e.g. Cyrillic text will show up correctly in a text
> editor afterwards?
> ...
> The 'template.json' contains this:
>
> {
> "test": "øæßþåнайтеĦŒŒ®®®"
> }
>
> What the json module
ivan77 writes:
> I currently have a need to setup a webserver on one of our internal servers
> that is going to send and receive XML SOAP responses to an external company
> through a VPN.
>
> It seems like something that I could use python (maybe even Django) for.
> However, even though I ha
the doc of os.fsencode(filename) says Encode filename to the filesystem
encoding 'strict' on Windows, what does 'strict' mean ?
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Vito De Tullio writes:
> Christian Tismer wrote:
>
>> $ python -c """some code"""
>
> totally offtopic but... since when bash support python-style triple
> quote?? Is it another shell??
Bash allows any odd number of quotes on each side.
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Christian Tismer wrote:
> $ python -c """some code"""
totally offtopic but... since when bash support python-style triple quote??
Is it another shell??
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On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 10:23:31 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> namenobodywants wrote:
> > can anyone help to reconcile me to this semantics?
>
> Not really. Most people agree that it's not desirable
> behaviour, but we've ended up here due to a convoluted
> history, and there doesn
namenobodywa...@gmail.com wrote:
> can anyone help to reconcile me to this semantics?
Not really. Most people agree that it's not desirable
behaviour, but we've ended up here due to a convoluted
history, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to
fix it without breaking a lot of existing code.
C
Hi everybody!
We’re building an experimental extension to Python, we’re extending
Python’s comprehensions into a full-scale query language.
And we’d love to use the trick that was done in pyxl, where a special encoding
of the file will trigger the preprocessor to run and compile our extend
On 09/29/2016 01:18 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it.
>
> Do you have anything substantive to contribute?
He's already contributed far more to this list, and to Python,
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 05:58 am, Random832 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016, at 02:47, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Your example is exactly what I am saying; if a type has a behavior in
>> which all values are always True (true-ish) its a rather strange kind
>> of bool-nature.
>
> For a given type T, if all o
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 05:18 am, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder
> wrote:
>> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it.
>
> Do you have anything substantive to contribute?
Infinitely more than you.
*plonk*
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro
wrote:
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote:
>> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it.
>
> Do you have anything substantive to contribute?
Yes. He contributed the guiding hand of "please keep
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 5:29 AM, wrote:
> i've had a nodding acquaintance with python for some time, and all along i
> assumed that for-loops got a namespace of their own; now i'm reading up on
> the language and i find out that's not the case: the loop variable gets put
> into the enclosing n
On 2016-09-27 18:47, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> I don't normally use IDLE, but I had occasion to use it
> on MacOSX 10.6 to answer someone's question, and of course
> it didn't work properly due to Apple's broken Tcl/Tk.
>
> I followed the advice to install ActiveState Tcl 8.5.18.0,
> but my Python st
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Random832 wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016, at 02:47, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Your example is exactly what I am saying; if a type has a behavior in
>> which all values are always True (true-ish) its a rather strange kind
>> of bool-nature.
>
> For a given type T, if all
On 29/09/16 22:14, Lele Gaifax wrote:
Christian Tismer writes:
Dedent 0.5
==
What is it?
---
Dedent is a very simple tool for those people who like to
indent their inline code nicely.
p.s.: Why is that not build in by default?
Isn't it roughly the same as
https://docs.pyth
Christian Tismer writes:
> Dedent 0.5
> ==
>
> What is it?
> ---
>
> Dedent is a very simple tool for those people who like to
> indent their inline code nicely.
>
> p.s.: Why is that not build in by default?
Isn't it roughly the same as
https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/textwr
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016, at 02:47, Rustom Mody wrote:
> Your example is exactly what I am saying; if a type has a behavior in
> which all values are always True (true-ish) its a rather strange kind
> of bool-nature.
For a given type T, if all objects of type T are true (true-ish, truthy,
whatever), i
Yes, loops don't have their own scope. Indeed, very few flow elements in
python -- if, with, try/except -- create a new scope. In that sense, it's
fairly consistent, but can be unexpected for people that have used
languages with many nested scopes.
The lambda behavior is a common gotcha - there
On 9/29/2016 2:47 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:43:05 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 9/14/2016 3:16 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
In THOSE TYPES that element can justifiably serve as a falsey (empty) type
However to extrapolate from here and believe that ALL TYPES c
hello pythonistas
i've had a nodding acquaintance with python for some time, and all along i
assumed that for-loops got a namespace of their own; now i'm reading up on the
language and i find out that's not the case: the loop variable gets put into
the enclosing namespace, overwriting any forme
On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it.
Do you have anything substantive to contribute?
(... crickets ...)
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On 9/29/2016 12:36 PM, MRAB wrote:
On 2016-09-29 16:56, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:53 pm, MRAB wrote:
What if an _exhausted_ iterator was falsey?
Logic is about binary distinctions, rather than about 'truth'. For
non-buggy iterator it, the useful binary distinction is whe
On 2016-09-29 09:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:47, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:43:05 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
Python make no such nonsense claim. By default, Python objects are truthy.
>>> bool(object())
True
Because T
On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 2:36 AM, MRAB wrote:
> On 2016-09-29 16:56, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:53 pm, MRAB wrote:
>>
>>> What if an _exhausted_ iterator was falsey?
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem is that in general you can't tell if an iterator is exhausted
>> until you attempt to
On 2016-09-29 16:56, Steve D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:53 pm, MRAB wrote:
What if an _exhausted_ iterator was falsey?
The problem is that in general you can't tell if an iterator is exhausted
until you attempt to advance it. So even if bool(iterator) returns True,
the call to next
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:53 pm, MRAB wrote:
> What if an _exhausted_ iterator was falsey?
The problem is that in general you can't tell if an iterator is exhausted
until you attempt to advance it. So even if bool(iterator) returns True,
the call to next() may raise StopIteration:
def gen():
y
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Hi All,
I currently have a need to setup a webserver on one of our internal servers
that is going to send and receive XML SOAP responses to an external company
through a VPN.
It seems like something that I could use python (maybe even Django) for.
However, even though I have been using Pyth
Dedent 0.5
==
What is it?
---
Dedent is a very simple tool for those people who like to
indent their inline code nicely.
For those who got already what it is, stop reading. :-)
All the others:
What is it, really?
---
Ok, think of some inline Python code, someth
On Thursday, 29 September 2016 12:56:28 UTC+1, eryk sun wrote:
>> Oh, wow. Now you mention it, I recall that convention (from somewhere). >>
>> I'll investigate that option (although it may not suit my use case, as
>> I want multiple exes in the one "main" directory sharing a single
>> "local" Py
bonjour
je n'arrive plus a me connecter au script doA-Tools alors que celui si
fonctionnait bien.
la fenêtre reste noir et rien ne se passe
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MRAB wrote:
> What if an _exhausted_ iterator was falsey?
Many would expect
it = iter("abc")
while it:
print(next(it))
to work (i. e. no StopIteration) -- if it doesn't, what's the actual
usecase?
If it does work there must be some lookahead which not all iterators can
provide in a meani
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:39:10 UTC+1, eryk sun wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> > PS It's a shame there's no way to put the embedded distribution in a
>> > subdirectory
>> > *without* needing to use
On 2016-09-29 10:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thursday 29 September 2016 18:45, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
[snip]
What do you say about things like iterators and generators? I'd say they
are containers, but they count as true even when they are empty.
No, they aren't containers, because they d
On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 8:00:09 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:54:46 AM UTC+13, Emile van Sebille
> wrote:
> > Which worked for me! You should try it. Sloppy programming has always
> > been unreliable.
>
> So it is clear you don’t have an
On Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:39:10 UTC+1, eryk sun wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> > PS It's a shame there's no way to put the embedded distribution in a
> > subdirectory
> > *without* needing to use dynamic loading, but I guess that's basically an
> > OS lim
On Thursday 29 September 2016 18:45, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>
> [- -]
>
>> What is this truthiness abstraction? It is the difference between
>> "something" and "nothing".
>>
>> Values which represent nothing, e.g.:
>>
>> - None
>> - numeric zero: 0, 0.0, 0j, Decimal(0
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> PS It's a shame there's no way to put the embedded distribution in a
> subdirectory
> *without* needing to use dynamic loading, but I guess that's basically an OS
> limitation.
There are ways to do this. The simplest way is to use a subdirec
On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 7:48:41 PM UTC+13, Rustom Mody wrote:
> - And then uses a value of that type in a non-trivial bool-consuming position
> such as the condition of an if/while etc
>
> There's a very good chance that bool-usage is buggy
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On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 7:13:15 PM UTC+13, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Philosophical question: Is a function that never
> returns actually a function?
Denotational semantics calls that value “bottom”.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Jussi Piitulainen
wrote:
> What do you say about things like iterators and generators? I'd say they
> are containers, but they count as true even when they are empty.
>
> bool(x for x in [3,1] if x in [2,7]) # True
> list(x for x in [3,1] if x in [2,7]) # []
>
> I
Steven D'Aprano writes:
[- -]
> What is this truthiness abstraction? It is the difference between
> "something" and "nothing".
>
> Values which represent nothing, e.g.:
>
> - None
> - numeric zero: 0, 0.0, 0j, Decimal(0) etc
> - empty strings u'', ''
> - empty containers [], (), {} etc.
>
> are t
On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:50:54 UTC+1, eryk sun wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> > So I thought I'd try SetDllDirectory. That works for python36.dll, but if I
> > load
> > python3.dll, it can't find Py_Main - the export shows as "(forwarded to
> > python36.
On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:47, Rustom Mody wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:43:05 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
>> Python make no such nonsense claim. By default, Python objects are truthy.
>>
>> >>> bool(object())
>> True
>>
>> Because True is the default, object ne
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Because True is the default, object need not and at least in CPython
>> does not have a __bool__ (or __len__) method. Classes with no falsey
>> objects, such as functions, generators, and codes, need not do anything
>> either. In the absence
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