Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread rbowman
On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 13:59:03 -0800 (PST), Grant Edwards wrote: > Yonks ago (early 80s), I used Pascal to write an RTOS kernel and call > processing firmware for a cell-site radio running a 16-bit > microprocessor (Z8000). It worked great. However, that Pascal compiler > had a few extensions desig

Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread Thomas Passin
On 1/2/2023 5:01 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2023-01-02, Alan Gauld wrote: On 02/01/2023 02:14, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote: I used PASCAL before C and I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket at times in PASCAL when I was trying to write encryption/decryption functions and had to find ways to

Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-02, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 02/01/2023 02:14, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote: >> I used PASCAL before C and I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket at times >> in PASCAL when I was trying to write encryption/decryption functions and had >> to find ways to fiddle with bits. Similar things w

Re: Fwd: About the Python

2023-01-02 Thread Michael Torrie
On 1/1/23 22:27, Ramya M wrote: > This is from JNN College of Engineering, Shimoga. we are facing some > problems while using python. Please can you resolve this issue. Without any further information on your part, we can only guess at what the problems might be. Crystal ball says that Thomas' su

Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-01-02, wrote: > I used PASCAL before C and I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket at times > in PASCAL when I was trying to write encryption/decryption functions and had > to find ways to fiddle with bits. Similar things were easy in C, and are > even easier in many more recent languag

Re: Fwd: About the Python

2023-01-02 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 1/2/23 10:32, Thomas Passin wrote: Since you have an immediate need to have working installations, I suggest that you downgrade to an earlier version of Python. V3.11.1 is new and some binary libraries (such as numpy) may not be working correctly yet with the latest version.  Your students w

Re: Fwd: About the Python

2023-01-02 Thread Thomas Passin
Since you have an immediate need to have working installations, I suggest that you downgrade to an earlier version of Python. V3.11.1 is new and some binary libraries (such as numpy) may not be working correctly yet with the latest version. Your students will not need any of the new features t

RE: RE: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread avi.e.gross
Alan, I stand corrected as my path never led me back to any form of PASCAL. And, frankly, my path rarely led me again to having to do what we describe as twiddling bits with the minor exception when doing something like setting the bits needed to specify what permissions should be associated wi

Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread pallavi Kannor
Thanks a lot all for your suggestions, I am clear now. On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:50 AM wrote: > Not to wax poetic about our pasts, Thomas, but I do did not start with > PASCAL and used quite a few languages before and plenty after. At the time > it had interesting contrasts to languages like BA

RE: Python-list Digest, Vol 232, Issue 1

2023-01-02 Thread avi.e.gross
Well explained, Roger. Your explanation reminds me why some languages very deliberately do not want the C operators of pre/post increment/decrement. Similar to your argument, code in C like: Y = X++ Or Y = ++X And similarly the -- versions, have a sort of side effect of changing X either before

Re: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread Thomas Passin
On 1/2/2023 3:01 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 02/01/2023 02:14, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote: I used PASCAL before C and I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket at times in PASCAL when I was trying to write encryption/decryption functions and had to find ways to fiddle with bits. Similar things were

Fwd: About the Python

2023-01-02 Thread Ramya M
-- Forwarded message - From: Ramya M Date: Mon, Jan 2, 2023, 9:58 AM Subject: About the Python To: This is from JNN College of Engineering, Shimoga. we are facing some problems while using python. Please can you resolve this issue. We are using python 3.11.1 (64 bit) for window

Re: RE: NoneType List

2023-01-02 Thread Alan Gauld
On 02/01/2023 02:14, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote: > I used PASCAL before C and I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket at times > in PASCAL when I was trying to write encryption/decryption functions and had > to find ways to fiddle with bits. Similar things were easy in C, and are > even easier in