Re: time.sleep(1) sometimes runs for 200 seconds under windows

2006-02-24 Thread Claudio Grondi
Claudio Grondi wrote: Paul Probert wrote: Peter Hansen wrote: Are you saying that you believe the time.sleep(1) call is actually blocking for 200 seconds? With such rare occurrence it is very hard to tell what is going on. Usually I put such strange things on a list of curiosities I

Re: bsddb3 database file, are there any unexpected file size limits occuring in practice?

2006-02-23 Thread Claudio Grondi
Klaas wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Beside the intended database file databaseFile.bdb I see in same directory also the __db.001 __db.002 __db.003 files where __db.003 is ten times as larger as the databaseFile.bdb and __db.001 has the same size as the databaseFile.bdb

Re: 'rar' is not recognized as an internal or external command£¿£¿£¿ £¿

2006-02-23 Thread Claudio Grondi
Ê÷Éϲä»Ò wrote: 'rar' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. import os import time source = [r'e:\temp\code',r'e:\temp\domains'] target_dir = r'e:\temp\bak' target = target_dir+time.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S')+'.rar' rar_cmd = rar a -idcdp %s

Re: time.sleep(1) sometimes runs for 200 seconds under windows

2006-02-23 Thread Claudio Grondi
Paul Probert wrote: Hi, My app runs in a loop looking for changes in a database, and like a good boy I call time.sleep(1) inside the loop. Unfortunately this sometimes runs for 200 seconds or so, presumably while my OS is calling Bill Gates to tell him what I've been doing. This happens

Re: time.sleep(1) sometimes runs for 200 seconds under windows

2006-02-23 Thread Claudio Grondi
Paul Probert wrote: Peter Hansen wrote: Are you saying that you believe the time.sleep(1) call is actually blocking for 200 seconds? Or just that your loop (and we can only guess what it looks like) is the one taking that long? If the former, try something like putting print 'before'

bsddb3 database file, what are the __db.001, __db.002, __db.003 files for?

2006-02-22 Thread Claudio Grondi
I have just started to play around with the bsddb3 module interfacing the Berkeley Database. Beside the intended database file databaseFile.bdb I see in same directory also the __db.001 __db.002 __db.003 files where __db.003 is ten times as larger as the databaseFile.bdb and

Re: Basic coin flipper program - logical error help

2006-02-21 Thread Claudio Grondi
DannyB wrote: I'm just learning Python. I've created a simple coin flipper program - here is the code: [source] #Coin flipper import random heads = 0 tails = 0 counter = 0 while (counter 100): coin = random.randrange(2) Claudio if (coin == 0): heads += 1

Re: SPE IDE videos and more...

2006-02-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy to spread the word about showmedo.com, an excellent collection of python programming videos. From the website http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=TheBigPythonList: The server response under:

Re: GDI in python?

2006-02-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
al pacino wrote: hi, is it possible to address the 'screen pixels' using python , like analogous to older dos( functions that graphics.h provides') or win api calls for gdi. what i want is to display clusters (in differetn colours) on screen using python. thanks. Sure. The problem

Re: [ANN] Movable python Trial Version

2006-02-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote: Em Sáb, 2006-02-18 às 04:24 -0800, Fuzzyman escreveu: It is set to expire on the 22nd May, and displays a nag screen on startup. Other than that, it is the full version. Have fun. Attached is the cracked version with no expiration limit and my own bitmap on the

Re: Difference between CPython, Python for .NET and IronPython?

2006-02-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Carl Johan Rehn wrote: What is the difference between CPython, Python for .NET, and IronPython? For example, if I'm running IronPython, can I access modules such as Numeric and numarray? As I understand it, interoperability with C# and .NET works in both directions with IronPython, but

Re: ANN: FreeImagePy 1.2.2

2006-02-16 Thread Claudio Grondi
Michele Petrazzo wrote: FreeImagePy 1.2.2 is available at freeimagepy.sf.net What is? It' a python wrapper for FreeImage, Open Source library for developers who would like to support popular graphics image formats. How work? It use a binary freeimage library present on the system

Re: file names longer than MAX_PATH under Windows 2003

2006-02-15 Thread Claudio Grondi
Sergey wrote: Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sergey] I see from another post that CreateFile cannot open your file. That puts it further away from Python, although it doesn't explain how some other program can see the files. Can you use os.startfile (or

Re: Python equivilant to msgbox()

2006-02-15 Thread Claudio Grondi
LittlePython wrote: I am glad you did remind me of WScript.Shell ... I have to keep in mind that most if not all of what I have been using in VBS is avail to me. Thx Maybe in this context it could be also worth for you to know, that on Windows you can use Python as a scripting language

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: accountability lying thru the teeth

2006-02-15 Thread Claudio Grondi
Anno Siegel wrote: Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc: ...a mechanism, so that any fuckhead tech geekers with their loud cries will hurt badly when they open their mouths in public... In this above I hear the voice of someone badly disappointed seeking an apology and

Re: Python equivilant to msgbox()

2006-02-14 Thread Claudio Grondi
for you. So I have to admit, that EasyGUI is in your case apparently exactly what you was looking for ... :-) Claudio Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LittlePython wrote: That is exactly what I was look for .. thx Surprised to hear

Re: Python equivilant to msgbox()

2006-02-13 Thread Claudio Grondi
LittlePython wrote: That is exactly what I was look for .. thx Surprised to hear that. As VisualBasic programmer I would expect you to have experience with ActiveX on Windows, where the best way to go with Python is to reuse all the ActiveX components and their known user interfaces (i.e.

Re: Image to numeric array

2006-02-13 Thread Claudio Grondi
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Dimitrios Charitatos wrote: Hello, I suspect that there is a quite straight forward answer to this, but I can't find it... I want to import an image and extract a matrix (or array) from it with elements showing the RGB value of each pixel. But I want to be able to do

Re: Image to numeric array

2006-02-13 Thread Claudio Grondi
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Is there a difference between the 'Numeric' and 'numeric' module? I have on my system only Numeric... And this has no function like 'from_image'. I actually didn't check that - I just wanted to point the OP to the numeric-module(s) available, as he suggested that

Re: Python 2.4.2 and Berkeley DB 4.4.20 ?

2006-02-13 Thread Claudio Grondi
Damjan wrote: This is from the Slackware-current changelog: d/python-2.4.2-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to python-2.4.2. The bsddb module didn't build against the new 4.4.x version of Berkeley DB. Does anyone care? Or perhaps have a patch? :-) Does anyone have a suggestion? I have

Re: a question regarding call-by-reference

2006-02-06 Thread Claudio Grondi
enjoying the view wrote: I am working on a school project, trying to build a simple RPC stub generator. The idea is that the generator takes a normal python file with functions defined in it and produces a client and server stub. The client stub has the same functions defined, but they just

Re: numeric expression from string?

2006-02-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
Brian Blais wrote: Hello, I have a string input from the user, and want to parse it to a number, and would like to know how to do it. I would like to be able to accept arithmetic operations, like: '5+5' '(4+3)*2' '5e3/10**3' I thought of using eval, which will work, but could lead

Re: Global variables, Classes, inheritance

2006-02-03 Thread Claudio Grondi
DaveM wrote: Although I've programmed for fun - on and off - since the mid 70's, I'm definitely an OO (and specifically Python) beginner. My first question is about global variables. Are they, as I'm starting to suspect, a sin against God or just best avoided? Having got my current

Re: OO conventions

2006-02-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Daniel Nogradi wrote: I'm relatively new to object oriented programming, so get confused about its usage once in a while. Suppose there is a class Image that has a number of methods, rotate, open, verify, read, close, etc. Then to use this class my natural guess would be to have something like

Re: Marked-Up Text Viewer for Python/Tkinter

2006-01-31 Thread Claudio Grondi
Eric Brunel wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:20:50 -0800, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I'm wondering if there is something that already exists that can take marked up text in some format (hopefully reStructuredText or HTML) and can convert it into something that can be

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-27 Thread Claudio Grondi
Bengt Richter wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:47:51 +0100, Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocco Moretti wrote: Terry Hancock wrote: One thing that I also think would be good is to open up the operator set for Python. Right now you can overload the existing operators, but you can't

Re: While loop - print several times but on 1 line.

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
Danny wrote: I think I should paste some of the programs code a little more of what I want... var = 0 while var = 5: print a[t[var]] var = var +1 a is a dectionary (very big) and t is a string of text. (if that's important right now). I'm just trying to make the value of

Re: history

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
yqyq22 wrote: Dear all, another little question, I use idle 1.1.2, is there a way to use a history for the command line? thanks in advance Another possibility beside going to any of the previous lines and hitting [Return]: [Alt]+p Claudio --

Re: ANN: SPE 0.8.2.a Python IDE: configure styles, interactive terminals ubuntu

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
SPE - Stani's Python Editor wrote: Release news from http://pythonide.stani.be This is an important a bugfix release for all platforms. As new features it can customize your fonts and colors (styles), supports interactive terminals and has improved support for Ubuntu. Thanks to Marco

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
Rocco Moretti wrote: Terry Hancock wrote: One thing that I also think would be good is to open up the operator set for Python. Right now you can overload the existing operators, but you can't easily define new ones. And even if you do, you are very limited in what you can use, and

Re: 2-dimensional data structures

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
anthonyberet wrote: Hello again - rather a newbie here... I want to work on a sudoku brute-forcer, just for fun. I am considering different strategies, but first I need to decide on the data-structure to use for the progress/solution grid. This being a square, I would have used a 9x9

Re: beta.python.org content

2006-01-26 Thread Claudio Grondi
Peter Maas wrote: Tony Meyer schrieb: - The logo does indeed resemble a cross. How about rotating it at 45 deg to make it look like an x? Or give it a circular shape? Please note that there are no religious motives in this remark :) -1. Then what are the motives? I don't like

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Claudio Grondi
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: On the page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python3%2e0Suggestions I noticed an interesting suggestion: These operators ≤ ≥ ≠ should be added to the language having the following meaning: = = != this should improve readibility (and make language more

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Claudio Grondi
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: Juho Schultz wrote: Fortran 90 allowed , = instead of .GT., .GE. of Fortran 77. But F90 uses ! as comment symbol and therefore need /= instead of != for inequality. I guess just because they wanted. However, it is one more needless detail to remember. Same with

Re: Using non-ascii symbols

2006-01-24 Thread Claudio Grondi
Christoph Zwerschke wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: There is no symbol coming to my mind, but I would be glad if it would express, that 'a' becomes a reference to a Python object being currently referred by the identifier 'b' (maybe some kind of - ?). With unicode, you have a lot

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-20 Thread Claudio Grondi
Magnus Lycka wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: You seem here to try to give a definition of the term 'value' for Python. If I understand it right, the definition of the term can't be generally given for many reasons. It depends at least on type and in advanced usage it can be arbitrary

Re: python camera

2006-01-20 Thread Claudio Grondi
Alex Gittens wrote: I'm working on a final project for my EE degree that requires the use of digital camera with high resolution. I'd like to do the image capture with Python, preferably in a cross-platform manner, but if necessary, we can limit ourselves to Windows. Any ideas on

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-20 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:08:38 +0100, Claudio Grondi wrote: The point is to find a way to create in Python two indentifiers a and b without manipulating any of the __eq__ and to __eq__ related functions in a way, that the simple if a==b: print 'a==b' statement

Re: Numarray, numeric, NumPy, scpy_core ??!!

2006-01-20 Thread Claudio Grondi
J wrote: Hi I hope the title of this message indicates my question. I am looking for basic array functionality in Python and it turns out that there are all these packages which are somehow related. Some are allegedly discontinued but still seem to get updated. Could we start a discussion

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: Fuzzyman wrote: I'm not familiar with the C basic datatypes - I assume it has an array or list like object. Would it contain a sequence of poitners to the members ? In which case they would only be equal if the pointers are the same. In this case :

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Exactly this is what Python does under the hood when writing a = some string b = some string where a and b are actually, in terms of C, pointer to Python object data structures which provide strings as arrays where it is possible to say a[0

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:29:24 +0100, Claudio Grondi wrote: The problem here is, that I mean, that in Python it makes no sense to talk about a value of an object, because it leads to weird things when trying to give a definition what a value of an object is. Python

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Exactly this is what Python does under the hood when writing a = some string b = some string where a and b are actually, in terms of C, pointer to Python object data structures which provide

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fuzzyman wrote: (If I understand correctly...) The reason he is looking for it, is in order to assert that Python 'comparison' is broken. a bit this way, but why formulate it with such a negative touch? Lets understand it more as looking for a way to get a deep understanding of the concept

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Exactly this is what Python does under the hood when writing a = some string b = some string where a and b are actually, in terms of C, pointer

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] The higher level of abstraction/indirection in Python results in making the concepts of 'value', 'having a value' or 'comparing values' useless, where it helps in C to express the difference between address

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:25:38 +0100, Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: Any hints towards enlightenment what this from the geometry known term 'ellipsis' mean in Python? Googling shows, that I am not the first who

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
Donn Cave wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem here to try to give a definition of the term 'value' for Python. If I understand it right, the definition of the term can't be generally given for many reasons. It depends at least on type

Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
In the process of learning about some deeper details of Python I am curious if it is possible to write a 'prefix' code assigning to a and b something special, so, that Python gets trapped in an endless loop in a line with: if a==b: print 'OK' I mean, it would be of much help to me on my way

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: In the process of learning about some deeper details of Python I am curious if it is possible to write a 'prefix' code assigning to a and b something special, so, that Python gets trapped in an endless loop in a line with: if a==b: print 'OK

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fuzzyman wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: [snip..] Thanks for the quick reply. I see, that I have overseen, that as Fredrik also stated, one can directly manipulate __eq__() as the easiest way to achieve what I requested. To explain why I am not happy with it, I will try here to give some more

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: [...] Yes, I know about 'is', but I mean, that it is not possible to use 'is' as replacement for '==' operator to achieve in Python same behaviour as it is the case in C and Javascript when comparing values with '=='. 'is' does the C

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fuzzyman wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: [snip..] Yes, I know about 'is', but I mean, that it is not possible to use 'is' as replacement for '==' operator to achieve in Python same behaviour as it is the case in C and Javascript when comparing values with '=='. 'is' does the C, Javascript job

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fuzzyman wrote: Oops... my misreading, sorry. The reason that, in Python, short ints have the same identity is not fickle - it's just True. Python creates a new reference (pointer) to the same object. You're saying you want one comparison operator that for : a=[1] ... many other

Re: Can a simple a==b 'hang' in and endless loop?

2006-01-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steve Holden wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Steve Holden wrote: [...] The problem here is, that I mean, that in Python it makes no sense to talk about a value of an object, because it leads to weird things when trying to give a definition what a value of an object is. I don;t

Re: check to see if value can be an integer instead of string

2006-01-17 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, i need a way to check to see if a certain value can be an integer. I have looked at is int(), but what is comming out is a string that may be an integer. i mean, it will be formatted as a string, but i need to know if it is possible to be expressed as an

Re: Widget that displays a directory tree?

2006-01-16 Thread Claudio Grondi
Christos Georgiou wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:55:46 -0500, rumours say that Edward C. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have written: Do any of the Python GUIs have a super-high-level widget that displays a directory tree? Most file managers or editors have this type of window. If you

Re: Widget that displays a directory tree?

2006-01-16 Thread Claudio Grondi
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Christos Georgiou wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:55:46 -0500, rumours say that Edward C. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have written: Do any of the Python GUIs have a super-high-level widget that displays a directory tree? Most file managers

Re: Running python apps from within python apps

2006-01-14 Thread Claudio Grondi
aph wrote: Hello. I'm sure this has been asked before, but I can't find an answer anywhere. I want to create a truly dynamic app which can get new functions on-the-fly and run them without having to re-start the main app. I've found the code module that looks kind of hopefull. For

Re: Running python apps from within python apps

2006-01-14 Thread Claudio Grondi
aph wrote: actually 'exec()' is the function I was looking for. Working code: class myApp: def kalle(self,str): return str.upper() def run_script(self,script): exec(script) app = myApp() app.run_script(print self.kalle('hello')) Thanks... Sorry, I see,

Re: Viewing Binary Data

2006-01-08 Thread Claudio Grondi
Cuyler wrote: Hello, I would like to display a file in its binary form (1s and 0s), but I'm having no luck... Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Cheers! Cuyler You may consider to check out the latest by me started thread in this newsgroup with the subject: Does Python allow

Re: What is the slickest way to transpose a square list of lists (tuple of tuples)?

2006-01-08 Thread Claudio Grondi
Gerard Brunick wrote: My way is ugly. These has to be a better way. Thanks, Gerard Ugly is not necessary not the slickest. To do better, there must be something to compare to, right? Claudio -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote: You can get somewhat faster in Python than your code if you avoid producing new long objects all the time, and do the task in chunks of 30 bits. It would be nice if you could explain why you consider chunks of 30 bits

Re: download full sites?

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, does anyone know of any package that will download a full site for offline viewing? It will change all url to match local urls and follow a logical structure (the site's structure would be suffice).. Please tell me if you have heard of such a package.. thanks alot

Re: PIL implementation

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
circusdei wrote: I wrote this snippet with the intention of -- capturing a section of the screen whenever it changes. It could be implemented to log any sort of messaging system ( by saving consecutive images eg. 1.png...etc). #code import Image import ImageGrab

Re: Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
Paul Rubin wrote: Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is if Python allows somehow access to the bytes of the representation of a long integer or integer in computers memory? No it doesn't, and that's a good thing, since the internal representation is a little bit

Re: Newbie with some doubts.

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
Edgar A. Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody, Im newbie to Python (I found it three weeks ago) , in fact Im newbie to programming. I'm being reading and training with the language, but I still wondering about what Classes are used to. Could you please give me some examples?? Thanks. I don't

Re: Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
Bengt Richter wrote: On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:05:18 +0100, Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What I am also looking for is a conversion to base 256 (i.e where the full byte is used and the string and the integer have the same actual content if on appropriate endian machine), which

Re: Newbie with some doubts.

2006-01-07 Thread Claudio Grondi
Mike Meyer wrote: Claudio Grondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edgar A. Rodriguez wrote: Hi everybody, Im newbie to Python (I found it three weeks ago) , in fact Im newbie to programming. I'm being reading and training with the language, but I still wondering about what Classes are used to. Could

Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-06 Thread Claudio Grondi
Let's consider a test source code given at the very end of this posting. The question is if Python allows somehow access to the bytes of the representation of a long integer or integer in computers memory? Or does Python hide such implementation details that deep, that there is no way to get

Re: Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-06 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know of a way to directly access the internal structure of a long, but you can speed up your example. First, is the order of the commands i=i1 lstBitsBitwiseAnd.append(i0x01) what you intend? The first low order bit is discarded because you've

Re: Does Python allow access to some of the implementation details?

2006-01-06 Thread Claudio Grondi
Martin v. Löwis wrote: You can get somewhat faster in Python than your code if you avoid producing new long objects all the time, and do the task in chunks of 30 bits. It would be nice if you could explain why you consider chunks of 30 bits to be superior e.g. to chunks of 32 bits? write a C

Re: Is 'everything' a refrence or isn't it?

2006-01-05 Thread Claudio Grondi
Stuart D. Gathman wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:54:17 -0800, KraftDiner wrote: I was under the assumption that everything in python was a refrence... so if I code this: lst = [1,2,3] for i in lst: if i==2: i = 4 print lst I though the contents of lst would be modified.. (After

Re: Is 'everything' a refrence or isn't it?

2006-01-05 Thread Claudio Grondi
Dan Sommers wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:38:06 -0500, Stuart D. Gathman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:54:17 -0800, KraftDiner wrote: I was under the assumption that everything in python was a refrence... so if I code this: lst = [1,2,3] for i in lst: if i==2: i = 4 print

Re: How to generate (enumerate) 2**N tuples representing all vertices of unit hypercube in N-dimensional hyperspace ?

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
Heiko Wundram wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: Heiko Wundram wrote: def perm(n): return (tuple(((1,-1)[(ti)%2] for i in xrange(n))) for t in xrange(2L**n)) Isn't this kind of coding beeing the result of suffering from the post-pyContest illness syndrom? I don't think what Paul

Re: Python article in Free Software Magazine

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
Kirk Strauser wrote: Michele Simionato wrote: when I think Zope is the less Pythonic application I have ever seen;) You do? Why so? I'm not arguing, but that's different than my experience with it and I'm curious about how you reached that conclusion. I can remeber, that I had took a

Re: Is 'everything' a refrence or isn't it?

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
KraftDiner wrote: I was under the assumption that everything in python was a refrence... so if I code this: lst = [1,2,3] for i in lst: if i==2: i = 4 print lst I though the contents of lst would be modified.. (After reading that 'everything' is a refrence.) so it seems that

Re: Win32 Binary-only for 2.3.x?

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I must be going nutty, but I can't seem to find anywhere where I can get just the binaries for, say, 2.3.5 for win32. I've googled high and low and all I come up with is installer (MSI/EXE) binaries and the source code. They have to be somewhere. I cant be

Re: Win32 Binary-only for 2.3.x?

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
Thomas Heller wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I must be going nutty, but I can't seem to find anywhere where I can get just the binaries for, say, 2.3.5 for win32. I've googled high and low and all I come up with is installer (MSI/EXE) binaries and the source code. They have to be

Re: Is 'everything' a refrence or isn't it?

2006-01-04 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 10:54:17 -0800, KraftDiner wrote: I was under the assumption that everything in python was a refrence... so if I code this: lst = [1,2,3] for i in lst: if i==2: i = 4 print lst I though the contents of lst would be modified.. (After

Re: indentation preservation/restoration

2006-01-03 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: With a little bit of work, this could be expanded to add redundancy for not just indentation and numeric literals, but also string literals, keywords, operators, and anything else. When I copy and assign to variable 'post' the reply posted

Re: [OT] - Requesting Comments for Process Definition and Presentation

2006-01-03 Thread Claudio Grondi
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: comp.lang.python / comp.lang.ruby - I would like to ask for feedback on the Process Definition and Presentation. Essentially this is exactly what I've myself specialized to do. But I cannot apply the process to my own system. I ask here, as I have

Re: How to generate (enumerate) 2**N tuples representing all vertices of unit hypercube in N-dimensional hyperspace ?

2006-01-03 Thread Claudio Grondi
Heiko Wundram wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: def perm(n): return [tuple([(1,-1)[(ti)%2] for i in xrange(n)]) for t in xrange(2L**n)] or replace that with: def perm(n): return (tuple(((1,-1)[(ti)%2] for i in xrange(n))) for t in xrange(2L**n)) to get a

Re: Any wing2.0 users here?

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
Alvin A. Delagon wrote: emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. Suggestions for

Productivity and Quality of IDE

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
In todays posting Any wing2.0 users here? I found in the sentence What can you say about this IDE? He say's 'if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for me. the indirect question: Can a better Python IDE increase programmers productivity? From my experience

Re: Sort dictionary

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
Markus Franz wrote: Hi! I have: x = {'a':3, 'b':2, 'c':4} How can I sort x by value? (I tried using sorted() with x.items() - but I didn't get a dictionary as response.) My second question: How can I reduce the dictionary to 2 items (so delete everything after the first two items)

Re: Spiritual Programming (OT, but Python-inspired)

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
There are many ways of going crazy, but the most valuable of them is this one which makes a genius out of an ordinary man. Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While preparing a Python411 podcast about classes and OOP, my mind wondered far afield. I found myself constructing an extended metaphor

Re: Any wing2.0 users here?

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
Jarek Zgoda wrote: Alvin A. Delagon napisał(a): emacs has been my long time companion for php, perl, and python. My boss recommended to me Wing2.0, I find it hard to adjust though. What can you say about this IDE? He say's if I think it could improve my productivity he's willing to buy it for

Re: indentation preservation/restoration

2006-01-02 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have (inadvertently) wiped out the functionality of my personal python snippets by eliminating leading space. I have also just visited http://www.python.org/tim_one/000419.html and saw a piece of code with the indentation gone. Python code is fragile in this regard.

Re: python coding contest

2006-01-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Claudio Grondi wrote: Please send me comments, suggestions and ideas. Now, after the contest is over I analysed the outcome of it and have come to the conclusion, that there were two major factors which contributed to squeezing of code: (1). usage of available variants for coding

Re: python coding contest

2006-01-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 03:34:33 +0100, Claudio Grondi wrote: Please send me comments, suggestions and ideas. Now, after the contest is over I analysed the outcome of it and have come to the conclusion, that there were two major factors which contributed to squeezing

Re: python coding contest

2006-01-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:49:58 +0100, Claudio Grondi wrote: What I have thought about as a simpler/better solution is a method allowing to avoid processing the content of the string or long integer object by looping over its content. How can you avoid looping

Re: python coding contest

2006-01-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Claudio Grondi wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:49:58 +0100, Claudio Grondi wrote: What I have thought about as a simpler/better solution is a method allowing to avoid processing the content of the string or long integer object by looping over its content. How

Re: python coding contest

2006-01-01 Thread Claudio Grondi
Michael Spencer wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: ...I analysed the outcome of it and have come to the conclusion, that there were two major factors which contributed to squeezing of code: (1). usage of available variants for coding of the same thing (2). sqeezing the size of used

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-31 Thread Claudio Grondi
Please send me comments, suggestions and ideas. Now, after the contest is over I analysed the outcome of it and have come to the conclusion, that there were two major factors which contributed to squeezing of code: (1). usage of available variants for coding of the same thing (2).

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-30 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Heller wrote: X=' _ _ _ | _| _ |_|_' Y=0x23018F406A3530EC273F008 j=.join seven_seg=lambda n:j(j(c)+\nfor c in zip(*[X[Ym+int(d)*97::8]for d in n for m in(6,3,0)])) Interesting bit: Although there are more 3-char combinations when you read

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-30 Thread Claudio Grondi
André wrote: For the few that might be interested, I will be posting the details of a 117 character long solution to the challenge on my blog http://aroberge.blogspot.com/. Enjoy! André It doesn't work for me as described on that page. The output is scrumbled. It seems, that the 12

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-29 Thread Claudio Grondi
Simon Hengel wrote: Hello, we are hosting a python coding contest an we even managed to provide a price for the winner... http://pycontest.net/ The contest is coincidentally held during the 22c3 and we will be present there.

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-28 Thread Claudio Grondi
Simon Hengel wrote: Hello, we are hosting a python coding contest an we even managed to provide a price for the winner... http://pycontest.net/ The contest is coincidentally held during the 22c3 and we will be present there.

Re: python coding contest

2005-12-27 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now have a version which passes the test suite in 32 bytes evil grin -T. After I have posted the statement, that I have one with 39 bytes, I had the 32 version five minutes later, but thougt that instead of posting it I can maybe use it as entry on the contest

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