Re: Kind of OT - Books on software development?

2011-05-25 Thread Ed Keith
I do not have my library with me, but I remember a book that fits the bill exactly, is was from Microsoft Press, I think it was called Writing Solid Code Hope this helps, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Kind of OT - Books on software development?

2011-05-25 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: I do not have my library with me, but I remember a book that fits the bill exactly, is was from Microsoft Press, I think it was called Writing Solid Code I have done some research at amazon.com, and while Writing Solid Code is an excellent

Re: Abandoning Python

2011-05-22 Thread Ed Keith
Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a lot of what you are looking for. I do not have much experience with it but I like what I've seen so far, except that there are not any third party tools or libraries libraries. Which is where Python shines. -EdK Ed

Modifying an existing excel spreadsheet

2010-12-20 Thread Ed Keith
it to a new spreadsheet and write the new spreadsheet, but I can't seem to copy the images, and it looks like copying the formatting is going to be difficult. Can anyone give me any tips or advice? Thanks in advance,    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http

Generating PDF file in Python

2010-10-26 Thread Ed Keith
? Are there other options I have overlooked? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Static typing, Python, D, DbC

2010-09-12 Thread Ed Keith
verification. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Help choosing license for new projects

2010-07-13 Thread Ed Keith
. But this should not be a problem with Python.   MIT license This one is good.   Mozilla Public license 1.1 I avoid this one.   New BSD License This one is good. I personalty like the Boost License, it has very few restrictions. I hope this helps, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog

Re: python instructor

2010-07-09 Thread Ed Keith
Where are you located? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 7/9/10, Greg gfi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Greg gfi...@gmail.com Subject: python instructor To: python-list@python.org Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 10:09 AM We're looking for a first-rate

Re: Download Microsoft C/C++ compiler for use with Python 2.6/2.7 ASAP

2010-07-06 Thread Ed Keith
I downloaded the ISO, but it seems to be just a bit too big to fit on a CD! This seems odd to me, has anyone else had this problem? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 7/6/10, sturlamolden sturlamol...@yahoo.no wrote: From: sturlamolden sturlamol

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Should I Learn Python or Ruby next?

2010-06-23 Thread Ed Keith
://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Try J. It does not require a special keyboard. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
/body /html -- Cheers Anton -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list But that is in a fixed size field, can you make the height change based on the height of the browser window, and still keep it centered? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com

Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Keith
Nice! I've been looking for that trick for some time. Thank you, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com --- On Mon, 6/14/10, AD. anton.l...@gmail.com wrote: From: AD. anton.l...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GUIs - A Modest Proposal To: python-list@python.org Date: Monday

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
/mailman/listinfo/python-list Why don't your own customers under cut you? If you sell someone GPLed software they have the right to redistribute it for less than you are distributing it for. That dose not strike me as a viable business model. How do you make it work? -EdK Ed Keith e_

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Duncan Booth duncan.bo...@invalid.invalid wrote: From: Duncan Booth duncan.bo...@invalid.invalid Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 8:52 AM Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: I can not imagine anyone being stupid

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: But if my client give someone else a copy of the binary I gave them, they are now in violation. Why would they be in violation? It seems to me a violation would only occur if someone asked them for the source, and they refused. -- http

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-18 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 12:03 PM On 2010-05-16 09:25 , Ed Keith wrote: --- On Sat, 5/15/10, Lawrence D'Oliveirol...@geek

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 1:10 PM On 2010-05-14 21:37 , Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:42:31 -0700, Ed Keith

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-16 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: On Fri, 5/14/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message mailman.158.1273844352.32709.python-l...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: Yes, under the GPL every one has one set of freedoms, under the MIT or Boost license

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote: From: Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 10:59 PM On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:39:05 -0700, Ed Keith wrote

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-15 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Thu, 5/13/10, Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: From: Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 7:41 PM On Thu, 13 May 2010 06:24:04 -0700, Ed Keith wrote

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: Assertion I:     If person A is free to do more than person B, then person A has     more freedom then person B. Assertion II:     If person A is free do perform an action person B is not free to     perform then person A is free to do more than person

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: On Thu, 5/13/10, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message mailman.2834.1273453242.23598.python-l...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: So if you want me to even consider using your library do not use GPL, or LGPL. What

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
: In message mailman.141.1273767256.32709.python-l...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: Assertion I:    If person A is free to do more than person B, then person A has    more freedom then person B. Assertion II:    If person A is free do perform an action person B is not free

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
using it did not reomove it from the common. Has the fact that Python has been used for many commercial/propitiatory projects reduced your ability to make use of it? If so how? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
/inadvertently violate the law. I do not want to put clients in legal jeopardy, so I do not use GPL, or LGPLed code. I do not claim that using the GLP is immoral, nor deny others right to use it. I just feel the risks out way the benefits for me. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
not have had this problem? I use the Boost Libraries (http://www.boost.org/) in most of my code. Do you believe they are likely to disappear because they are not covered by the GPL? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
will use the previously released Boost licensed version. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
. So your argument does not work. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
code to the client they are always free to do whatever they want with it. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
to him or his friend), then he is in violation of the law, and he cannot even understand why. The GPL is fine when all parties concern understand what source code is and what to do with it. But when you add people like my father to the loop if gets very ugly very fast. -EdK Ed Keith e_

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
the version with the more permissive license, unless the GPLed version offered a significant advantage of some kind. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: Yes, under the GPL every one has one set of freedoms, under the MIT or Boost license every one has more freedoms. Under other licenses they have fewer freedoms. But what about the “freedom” to take away other people’s freedom? Is that really “freedom

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: That is one good reason for choosing to use the GPL, instead of a less restrictive license. You can license it, for a fee, to someone who wants to use it in some way that is not allowed under the GPL. Replace “GPL” with “other licence” and your statement

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-14 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote: From: Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk Subject: Re: Picking a license To: python-list@python.org Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 8:12 PM On 14 Mai, 21:18, Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: The GPL is fine when all parties concern

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: If, on the other hand you are releasing a library, to be incorporated into other products, If you release it under the GPL I will not take the time to learn it. I do not want to have to think about what took I can legally use for what job. Libraries

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
arguments for another position. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: ... but to claim that putting more restrictions on someone give them more freedom is pure Orwellian double speak. What about the freedom to take away other people’s freedom? What tuple of speak would that be? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
...@g21g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, Patrick Maupin wrote: On May 12, 10:48 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message mailman.121.1273693278.32709.python-l...@python.org, Ed Keith wrote: ... but to claim that putting more restrictions on someone give

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
with out binding them to the legal restrictions of the GPL. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-13 Thread Ed Keith
GPLed code in my projects. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-12 Thread Ed Keith
is the last resort of those who have run out of good arguments. The more you engage in it the weaker you make your position. This thread is generating more heat than light, and probably should be dropped. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Picking a license (an atempt to give real advice)

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
it, but others might, and you may get paid for your work. The bottom line is: if you want the largest possible user base, go with a less restrictive license; If you hope to profit financially from your work, use the GPL. Just my $0.02, I hope it is helpful.    -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com

Re: Picking a license

2010-05-09 Thread Ed Keith
code. So I do not waist my time learning to use libraries covered by restrictive licenses. So if you want me to even consider using your library do not use GPL, or LGPL. I favor the Boost license in this case. I hope this is useful. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-05 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:47 PM Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: Knuth wanted the generated source to be unreadable, so people would

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
language to write in (although I do wish it did a better job with closures). But it is a PITA to generate code for! -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: From: Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:40 AM Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 14:15: I wrote AsciiLitProg (http://asciilitprog.berlios.de/) in Python

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: For more information on Literate Programming in general see the following

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, James Mills prolo...@shortcircuit.net.au wrote: From: James Mills prolo...@shortcircuit.net.au Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python list python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 10:35 AM On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
, James Mills prolo...@shortcircuit.net.au wrote: On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote: To deal with indentation I had to   1) keep track of indentation of all chunks of code embedded in the      document and indent inserted chunks to the sum of all

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: From: Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:33 AM Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 15:19: --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel wrote: Ed Keith, 04.05.2010

Re: Teaching Programming

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Tue, 5/4/10, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: From: Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de Subject: Re: Teaching Programming To: python-list@python.org Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 11:52 AM Ed Keith, 04.05.2010 17:43: The PITA is having to keep track of the indentation of each

Re: Sharing a program I wrote

2010-05-04 Thread Ed Keith
for. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Recommend Commercial graphing library

2010-04-06 Thread Ed Keith
commercial use. There is no copyleft restriction. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Ed Keith
established, why no use one of them? I'd love to know what they were thinking. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Docstrings considered too complicated

2010-03-03 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 3/3/10, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Docstrings considered too complicated To: python-list@python.org Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2:54 PM On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: Writing an assembler in Python

2010-02-22 Thread Ed Keith
? -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
to get used to this, but it is only syntax, I do not let syntax bother me. Semantics on the other hand, are a big deal. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote: From: Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au Subject: Re: Python and Ruby To: python-list@python.org Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:36 PM On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:28:41 -0800, Ed Keith wrote

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-31 Thread Ed Keith
)). -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Ruby

2010-01-30 Thread Ed Keith
-minute introduction stage. You need to be clear about what you mean by clean. Is Python scoping clean? I suspect lots of people would argue either side. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
I am having a problem when substituting a raw string. When I do the following: re.sub('abc', r'a\nb\nc', '123abcdefg') I get 123a b cdefg what I want is r'123a\nb\ncdefg' How do I get what I want? Thanks, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http

Re: Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: From: Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar Subject: Re: Raw string substitution problem To: python-list@python.org Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 9:35 AM En Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:09:32 -0300, Ed Keith e_

Re: Raw string substitution problem

2009-12-16 Thread Ed Keith
(.*)$', '123abcdefg') print m.group(1) + r'a\nb\n.c\a' + m.group(2) 123a\nb\n.c\adefg It's much less likely to fry the poor maintenance programmer's mind. -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

a list/re problem

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Keith
a better solution? Thank, -EdK Ed Keith e_...@yahoo.com Blog: edkeith.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: a list/re problem

2009-12-11 Thread Ed Keith
--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: From: Peter Otten __pete...@web.de Subject: Re: a list/re problem To: python-list@python.org Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:24 PM Ed Keith wrote: I have a problem and I am trying to find a solution to it that is both