Trac - Does it make sense to keep http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4315 open?

2008-03-09 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Response to message [1] on trac.devel (as I cannot write there, due to an informally applied censorship) Mr. Boos: I left that ticket open simply to avoid having someone to reopen it over and over... (note to reader: this someone is me) Mr. Boos, the ticket status should reflect reality. So, if

Re: TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[RESEND of answer to all initial groups] On 16 Öåâ, 15:45, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] Of course I'll not stay with trac, I'll leave the sinking ship, I've prepare long time ago to do so, step by step. An will migrate step by step away from trac

Re: TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[RESEND answer to all initial groups] On 16 Öåâ, 19:15, Jeff Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Essence: snipSpam spam spam spam.../snip I just looked at your resume. http://lazaridis.com/resumes/lazaridis.html (need to update it, lot's of irrelevant stuff, should

TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-16 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Essence: * Trac is deficient, cause of proud to be an egoism driven amateur developers * Python and it's communities is excellent for learning. Not programming, but to learn from deficiency, community organization, transparency, efficiency etc.! * Do it in perl, if you need something more

Re: TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-16 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On 16 Φεβ, 15:45, Robert Klemme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16.02.2008 13:16, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: snip/ Oh, it's him again. Please do not respond. http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.foundation/msg00167.html Thanks, nice message, I've added it to the section: http

Re: TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-16 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On 16 Φεβ, 19:15, Jeff Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Essence: snipSpam spam spam spam.../snip I just looked at your resume. http://lazaridis.com/resumes/lazaridis.html (need to update it, lot's of irrelevant stuff, should focus on my failures) What is Abstract

Re: TRAC - Trac, Project Leads, Python, and Mr. Noah Kantrowitz (sanitizer)

2008-02-16 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On 16 Φεβ, 15:45, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] Of course I'll not stay with trac, I'll leave the sinking ship, I've prepare long time ago to do so, step by step. An will migrate step by step away from trac and python - toward an own implementation based

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 23, 2:47 am, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] cybersource.com.au wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:05:23 -0800, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: I've never encountered such items supported by the language. OS specific extensions MIGHT supply it... Picky picky... but of course you are

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On 22 Δεκ, 09:09, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] For Python, standard process monitoring tools (combined with a basic understanding of how dynamic memory allocation works on modern platforms) are usually sufficient to get a good view of an application's memory usage patterns.

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-21 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 19, 5:40 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 8:41 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to detect memory leaks of python programms, which run in an environment like this: * Suse Linux 9.3 * Apache * mod_python The problem occoured after some

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-21 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 21, 3:21 pm, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Please get serious, Mr.! (and avoid further off-topics) . -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-21 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 21, 12:25 pm, Graham Dumpleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 7:42 pm, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 5:40 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 8:41 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to detect memory leaks of python

Re: Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 17, 8:41 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to detect memory leaks of python programms, which run in an environment like this: * Suse Linux 9.3 * Apache * mod_python The problem occoured after some updates on the infrastructure. It's most possibly caused by trac

Re: WikiInclude on 0.11 - Noah Kantrowitz blocks bug-fix

2007-12-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 18, 9:15 pm, smallpond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 9:23 pm, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Essence: * Deletion of valid defect reports on trac community resources The WikiInclude plugin is not recognised on trac 0.11, thus I took a look an made a small

[TRAC] WikiInclude on 0.11 - Noah Kantrowitz blocks bug-fix

2007-12-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Essence: * Deletion of valid defect reports on trac community resources The WikiInclude plugin is not recognised on trac 0.11, thus I took a look an made a small addition to the setup.py (the entry_point). Other users have the same problem, thus I filed a ticket in the trac- hacks community

Re: WikiInclude on 0.11 - Noah Kantrowitz blocks bug-fix

2007-12-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
On Dec 18, 4:23 am, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Essence: * Deletion of valid defect reports on trac community resources UPDATE: Instead of fixing the WikiInclude in the repo (or at least leave the ticket open, thus a developer can do it), Mr. Noah Kantrowitz goes his very

Detecting memory leaks on apache, mod_python

2007-12-16 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
How to detect memory leaks of python programms, which run in an environment like this: * Suse Linux 9.3 * Apache * mod_python The problem occoured after some updates on the infrastructure. It's most possibly caused by trac and it's dependencies, but several components of the OS where updated,

SQLALCHEMY - Method to have the last word, by Michael Bayer

2006-12-19 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[1] - Ο/Η metaperl: TurboEntity was quite sweet. Supposedly a complete rewrite as a new product is on its way though. Ilias Lazaridis: the first major problem of this rewrite: it happens 'silently' (non-public) Michael Bayer wrote within: http://groups.google.com/group/sqlalchemy/msg

Re: SQLALCHEMY - Method to have the last word, by Michael Bayer

2006-12-19 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ο/Η Diez B. Roggisch έγραψε: ... (several off-topics) Please control yourself. Ï/Ç metaperl: TurboEntity was quite sweet. Supposedly a complete rewrite as a new product is on its way though. Ilias Lazaridis: the first major problem of this rewrite: it happens 'silently' (non-public) 3

Re: Python component model

2006-10-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Terry Reedy wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I share the infrastructure which I use: http://dev.lazaridis.com/base But not quite yet, it appears. A public release is planned shortly Thank you for you comment. You are right. I've not yet

Re: Python component model

2006-10-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Wang wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: looks interesting. Thanks! what about persistency? Um... what about it? As far as I can see, there's no persistency binding available. Is one planned? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/dbdaedc68eee653a . -- http

Re: Python component model

2006-10-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Wang wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Peter Wang wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: what about persistency? Um... what about it? As far as I can see, there's no persistency binding available. Is one planned? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg

self (was: Python component model)

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Maas wrote: Paul Boddie wrote: People who bring up stuff about self and indentation are just showing their ignorance, in my opinion, since Python isn't the first language to use self in such a way, and many C++ and Java programs use this pervasively in order to make attribute scope

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Decker wrote: On 10/10/06, Peter Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for my part would be happy to see a Delphi-like RAD tool for Python, a reference implementation for web programming as part of the standard library, Jython 2.5, Python for PHP or whatever attracts new programmers. I

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Decker wrote: On 11 Oct 2006 18:56:30 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, an interesting tool. But to get more attention and developers, the project needs to be polished. really unattractive resources: http://dabodev.com http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Peter Decker wrote: On 11 Oct 2006 18:56:30 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, an interesting tool. But to get more attention and developers, the project needs to be polished. really unattractive resources: http://dabodev.com http

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Robert Kern wrote: No, he's just a troll that enjoys telling everyone what to do. Don't try to get him to contribute anything useful; it won't work. Mr. Kern! Seeing you working on such a seemingly excellent product, I am really wondering

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Decker wrote: On 11 Oct 2006 20:08:12 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then, why not contribute? Or are you waiting for everyone else to do it for you? I've contributed already (my contructive criticism). It's up to the team to react. Wow! What

Re: Python component model

2006-10-11 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Robert Kern wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Robert Kern wrote: No, he's just a troll that enjoys telling everyone what to do. Don't try to get him to contribute anything useful; it won't work. Mr. Kern! Seeing you working on such a seemingly

Re: Python component model

2006-10-10 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Peter Maas wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers schrieb: Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: (snip) Python itself is a RAD tool. +1 QOTW No, please stop self-assuring, self-pleasing QOTWs! This afternoon I was in the local book warehouse and went to the computer book department. They had

Re: Python component model

2006-10-10 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Edward Diener No Spam wrote: ... You'll definitely want to take a look at Enthought's Traits (disclaimer: I work for Enthought). I'm supposed to be on vacation now, so I'm not going to give you the full rundown of Traits and Traits UI, so I'm simply going to point you

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-08 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ben Finney wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for Mr. Holden... it's not a matter of not respecting you. It is in his nature to babble in this way. Sometimes it's even funny! Oh my. You have *seriously* misjudged this group if you think that comment will give you any

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-10-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Gabriel Genellina wrote: At Wednesday 27/9/2006 09:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: import sys def f(obj): if obj: print '::: ' + repr(obj) sys.displayhook = f Have you tried that? You have to filter out None, not *any* False value. And notice that this replaces the output

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-10-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: IDLE has an output format like this: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type 'type' object.__bases__ How can I customize it to become like that: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Giovanni Bajo wrote: Aahz wrote: Are you ever going to try and make a point which is not you are not entitled to have opinions because you do not act? Your sarcasm is getting annoying. And since I'm not trolling nor flaming, I think I deserve a little bit more of respect. IMO,

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Richard Brodie wrote: Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is on the same level of interest to the communities of python, ruby java as the color of my socks this morning - a deep black with cute little skulls imprinted. I did find Andy's

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-06 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Michael Ströder wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: You need just 2 active contributors - and the python community, not more Hmm, this number does not say much. It really depends on the required service level and how much time these two people can spend for maintaining the tracker service

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Giovanni Bajo wrote: Hello, I just read this mail by Brett Cannon: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-October/069139.html where the PSF infrastracture committee, after weeks of evaluation, recommends using a non open source

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[For some reason, the newsgroup server seems to not have distributed the messages yet. Thus posting via groups-google now. first message was from 2006-09-27, second message from 2006-09-28, both with a CC to Andy Singleton] Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: CC to : Andy

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Paul McGuire wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip - a bunch of back-and-forth correspondence of no interest to anyone here whatsoever WHAT IS THIS CRAP DOING ON THIS NEWSGROUP???!!! IT IS UNWANTED AND UNWELCOME!!! If you want to make

Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton

2006-10-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ben Finney wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I admit it is difficult to detect that this post is in-topic. But it is. Really, it's not. If you want a voice, you already have your website. Mailing lists and other discussion forums have conventions about topic for a good

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Giovanni Bajo wrote: Hello, I just read this mail by Brett Cannon: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-October/069139.html where the PSF infrastracture committee, after weeks of evaluation, recommends using a non open source tracker (called JIRA - never heard before of

Re: Python to use a non open source bug tracker?

2006-10-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Giovanni Bajo wrote: Hello, I just read this mail by Brett Cannon: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-October/069139.html where the PSF infrastracture committee, after weeks of evaluation, recommends using a non open source tracker (called JIRA -

Re: Leave the putdowns in the Perl community, the Python world does not need them

2006-09-30 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
metaperl wrote: I was shocked to see the personal insults hurled in this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/d0758cb9545cad4b I have been very pleased with Python developers regardless of skill levels in both the IRC channel as well as here - no hot

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-28 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Gabriel Genellina wrote: At Wednesday 27/9/2006 09:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: import sys def f(obj): if obj: print '::: ' + repr(obj) sys.displayhook = f Have you tried that? You have to filter out None, not *any* False value. you are right. 1 == 0 showed an empty response

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-27 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
James Stroud wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... Well, for example, the output (I'm indenting manually for visual clarity): print 'bob' : bob print [i for i in xrange(3)] : [0, 1, 2] Would create the following selection in doctest mode (again manually adding

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-27 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Gabriel Genellina wrote: At Tuesday 26/9/2006 15:29, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: def f(obj): print '' + repr(obj) sys.displayhook = f I've placed this code within /Lib/sitecustomize.py, but have one strange result: ... t.sayHello() Hello world : None 1st: Hello

Re: String Pattern Matching: regex and Python regex documentation

2006-09-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Xah Lee wrote: ... This project was undertaken as a response to a challenge put forth to me with a $100 reward, on 2005-04-12 on comp.lang.python newsgroup. I never received the due reward. Your reading skills must be terrible. You never received the reward because

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Robert Kern wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Steve Holden wrote: And I am wondering at your continual surprise when the rest of the world fails to share your perceptions. Doesn't this carry *any* information? not the rest of the world, but the rest of the python community. Remember back

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Gabriel Genellina wrote: At Sunday 24/9/2006 18:55, Robert Kern wrote: Anyways, against my better judgement, I will tell you that you can customize the output by replacing sys.displayhook with your own function: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-sys.html import sys

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
James Stroud wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... I am wondering that other users are not annoyed by this reduced readability. I'm sure its quite unpopular to agree with you, but I do. I am tremendously annoyed the format of the interactive interpreter. Lovely would be output as you

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-24 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: IDLE has an output format like this: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type 'type' object.__bases__ How can I customize it to become like that: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type

Re: IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-24 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: IDLE has an output format like this: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type 'type' object.__bases__ How can I customize it to become like that: object type 'object' type

Re: CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Steve Holden wrote: ... Though of course the easiest way to enforce your classes to new style is to begin each module with __metaclass__ = type I assume placing this in the central site import (e.g. sitecustomize.py) would collapse python? (I

IDLE - Customizing output format

2006-09-23 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
IDLE has an output format like this: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type 'type' object.__bases__ How can I customize it to become like that: object type 'object' type type 'type' object.__class__ type 'type' object.__bases__ or that:

CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Another topic [1] has raised the need of a deeper teach-in. Where can I find _compact_ documentation about * Differece between New Style / Old Style Classes Are there any documents available (again: compact ones) which describe unification attemps subjecting * New Style Classes * Old Style

Re: CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ben Finney wrote: Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where can I find _compact_ documentation about Can you tell us what is lacking about the documentation at URL:http://www.python.org/doc/ ? Specifically, what problems have you found in understanding these topics from

Re: CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: note: I am aware about search engines. but you're incapable of using them, or ? - I ask for documentation which other developers have found useful most recent Python books contains good discussions of the things you're asking for. maybe

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Michele Simionato wrote: (I don't believe I am responding to a notorious troll ...) Believe it. You are. Ain't life a bitch? :-) One (bad) solution is to write in your sitecustomize.py the following: $ echo /usr/lib/python/sitecustomize.py import __builtin__

Re: CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Paul Boddie wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] Have those old style classes any benefits? That you don't have to write the bizarre conceptual accident that is (object) when declaring a top-level class? Though of course the easiest way to enforce your classes

Re: CONSTRUCT - New/Old Style Classes, build-in/extension types

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Paul Boddie wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... (helpful comments) Have those old style classes any benefits? That you don't have to write the bizarre conceptual accident that is (object) when declaring a top-level class? This was most possibly done for back-compatibility reasons. Although

Re: String Pattern Matching: regex and Python regex documentation

2006-09-22 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[followup to c.l.py] Xah Lee wrote: the Python regex documentation is available at: http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_re-write/lib/module-re.html Note that, i've just made the terms of use clear. Also, can anyone answer what is the precise terms of license of the official python

Re: SETUP - Introducing setuptools to a project without risk

2006-09-20 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: If I understood things right, setuptools extends the functionality of distutils Thus replacing within a setup.py: from distutils.core import setup with try: from setuptools import setup except ImportError: from distutils.core import setup should have

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-20 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
MonkeeSage wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: where do I place this function... The place where you want it to be. ...thus it becomes available within class Foo and all other Classes? Anything defined in the top-level (i.e., the sys.modules['__main__'] namespace) is accessible in every scope

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-20 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
MonkeeSage wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: no, I don't know it. OK...so how do you evaluate a language when you don't know its basic operations? Hmmm, sounds fishy. The learning-process is an important part of the evaluation. how do I define something into the top-level namespace? I assume

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-20 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
George Sakkis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I like to add a method writeDebug(self, msg) to all (or the most possible) classes in the system. How do I do this? * with new style classes * with old style classes Short answer: you can't do it for builtin or extension types

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-19 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I understand that I can use __metaclass__ to create a class which modifies the behaviour of another class. How can I add this metaclass to *all* classes in the system? (In ruby I would alter the Class class) I got confused from the discussion about __metaclass__

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-19 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I understand that I can use __metaclass__ to create a class which modifies the behaviour of another class. How can I add this metaclass to *all* classes in the system? (In ruby I would alter the Class class) I

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-19 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
MonkeeSage wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: How do I do this? It's easy: def writeDebug(msg): print I do not debug things, I _evaluate_ with professionals on the industries! See ticket 547!\n \ Oh yeah, and %s % msg where do I place this function... ... class Foo

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-pymeta.html I am not so much interested in old-style, as is start production with python 2.4 (possibly even with python 2.5). The fact remains that you won't be able to affect

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Calvin Spealman wrote: On 18 Sep 2006 20:23:03 -0700, Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-pymeta.html I am not so much interested in old-style, as is start production

Re: EyeDB Object Database (ODBMS) - Python wrapper

2006-09-18 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
GinTon wrote: EyeDB is a free ODBMS based on the ODMG 3 specification with programming interfaces for C++ and Java. It is very powerfull, mature, safe and stable. In fact, it was developed in 1992 for the Genome View project althought rewritten in 1994, and has been used in a lot of

CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
I understand that I can use __metaclass__ to create a class which modifies the behaviour of another class. How can I add this metaclass to *all* classes in the system? (In ruby I would alter the Class class) . http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: CONSTRUCT - Adding Functionality to the Overall System

2006-09-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Damjan wrote: I understand that I can use __metaclass__ to create a class which modifies the behaviour of another class. How can I add this metaclass to *all* classes in the system? (In ruby I would alter the Class class) You'd have to set __metaclass__ = whatever at the

SETUP - Introducing setuptools to a project without risk

2006-09-17 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
If I understood things right, setuptools extends the functionality of distutils Thus replacing within a setup.py: from distutils.core import setup with try: from setuptools import setup except ImportError: from distutils.core import setup should have the following behaviour: * does

Re: CONSTRUCT -

2006-09-12 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
from the same poster. Ilias Lazaridis' communications can be a little obscure, to say the least, and it's apparent that his approach to language evaluaation doesn't emphasize community experience too heavily. Still, it takes all sorts to make a newsgroup ... I'm not evaluation python anymore

Re: ANN: Dao 1.0.0-alpha is released

2006-06-13 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, It is a pleasure to announce in this mailing list the newly released Dao. This is the first release after the Dao interpreter being ... Two modules are also released along with the virtual machine: DaoMySQL and DaoPyhon. DaoPython is particularly

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-10 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Maric Michaud wrote: Le Vendredi 09 Juin 2006 20:06, Ilias Lazaridis a écrit : the code below works, but has the limitation that I cannot import the syncdb_hook within django.core.management. In [4]: from b import CONS In [5]: import b In [6]: b.CONS = 3 In [7]: CONS Out[7]: 5

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-09 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Maric Michaud wrote: Le Jeudi 08 Juin 2006 14:28, Ilias Lazaridis a écrit : Another possibility is to enlink (hook?) the functionality into an existent function Is there any way (beside a patch) to alter the behaviour to an existing function. Is ther a python construct similar

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-09 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Duncan Booth wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: #patch_service.py from toto import service def my_impl(self, *args) : old_result = self._old_method(*args) # ... return new_result if not hasattr(service, '_old_method') : service._old_method = service.method

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-09 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 15:28:39 +0300 Ilias Lazaridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # *IMPORT* # # I would like to know, if this construct is valid, or if it can # result in problems (that I do not see as a newcomer): The intricacies of import are far beyond me

CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-08 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
I have a few small questions subjecting python functionality, most importantly the alias_method. - *IMPORT* I would like to know, if this construct is valid, or if it can result in problems (that I do not see as a newcomer): 1082try: 1083from django.rework.evolve

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-08 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: [...] http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Please . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-08 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Maric Michaud wrote: Le Jeudi 08 Juin 2006 15:15, Duncan Booth a écrit : but the more usual way is just to call the original method directly in the base class. class SqliteAdapter(BaseClass): def create_table(self, *args) self.table_evolve(*args) result =

Re: CONSTRUCT - Python's way of Ruby's alias_method

2006-06-08 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Duncan Booth wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: I would like to know, if this construct is valid, or if it can result in problems (that I do not see as a newcomer): 1082try: 1083from django.rework.evolve import evolvedb 1084except ImportError: 1085

CENSORSHIP - Django Project (Schema Evolution Support)

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[posted publicly to comp.lang.python, with email notification to 6 recipients relevant to the topic] I have implemented a simple schema evolution support for django, due to a need for a personal project. Additionally, I've provided an Audit: http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/DjangoAudit As a

Re: CENSORSHIP - Django Project (Schema Evolution Support)

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Diez B. Roggisch wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilias_Lazaridis What has this wikipedia entry to do with the topic here? What is the credibility and value of the provided wikipedia entry? Let's review the editor's list:

Re: Django Quick Start with Schema Evolution Support

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
[Replying to comp.lang.python, due to censorship on Django User] [additional notification of poster via email, as medium is changed] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep. i feel particularly hosed for trying to work with you offline to synchronize our efforts. I don't think that telling me when

Re: Django Quick Start with Schema Evolution Support

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [Replying to comp.lang.python, due to censorship on Django User] [additional notification of poster via email, as medium is changed] And yet you still don't see why people call you a troll? Missing liberal qualities? http://dev.lazaridis.com/base

Re: Django Quick Start with Schema Evolution Support

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Brian wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: snip http://lazaridis.com I would agree with you that this is a place to discuss python. However, your posts primarily deal with your expulsion from another group. Instead of discussing that, why don't your discuss the python technicalities of your

Re: Django Quick Start with Schema Evolution Support

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Steve Holden wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: ... This thread is now technical. Thank you for your comments. . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PUDGE - Project Status, Alternative Solutions

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: Ilias Lazaridis wrote: What is going on with the pudge project? Any chance to get an comment on this? After a little bit off-list discussion, I understand that many python documentation projects stop at some point, and that efforts are in general not very

Re: CENSORSHIP - Django Project (Schema Evolution Support)

2006-06-07 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Rene Pijlman wrote: Ilias Lazaridis: What is the credibility and value of the provided wikipedia entry? Wikipedia always tells the Absolute Truth, because if it doesn't, we can edit it and fix it right away. fascinating! . -- http://lazaridis.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: HOST - dreamhost.com / Liberality (Hosting, Basic Requirement)

2006-06-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Tim X wrote: [...] I think the other point here is that everyone *assumes* Xah's account was cancelled simply because of a campaign to report him for spamming multiple newsgroups. I suspect there were other factors involved. for all anyone knows, the provider might have been getting complaints

Re: John Bokma harassment

2006-06-05 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Xah Lee wrote: Thanks to the great many people who has written to my ISP in support of [...] As to dreamhost my webhosting company canceling my account, i will try to reason with them, and see what is the final outcome. They have the legal right to kick me because in the contract that allowed

HOST - dreamhost.com / Liberality (Hosting, Basic Requirement)

2006-06-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
crossposted to 5 groups, which are affected by this case. followup not applicable. - I am currently selecting a Hosting Provider / Project Host... http://case.lazaridis.com/multi/wiki/Host For this larger scale project... http://case.lazaridis.com/multi - An incident within usenet has

Re: PUDGE - Project Status, Alternative Solutions

2006-06-04 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Ilias Lazaridis wrote: What is going on with the pudge project? Any chance to get an comment on this? Mr. Patrik O'Brien (Orbtech LLC) had told me that there is no similar tool available within the python domain, thus I have invested some effort to create a Website template, and to enable

PUDGE - Project Status, Alternative Solutions

2006-05-26 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
What is going on with the pudge project? Mr. Patrik O'Brien (Orbtech LLC) had told me that there is no similar tool available within the python domain, thus I have invested some effort to create a Website template, and to enable pudge to generate colored code:

Re: Software Needs Philosophers

2006-05-21 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
Mark Shelor wrote: Xah Lee wrote: Programming languages are religions. For a long while now I've been ... ... Is there really something new out there? I would argue that software needs innovation more than it needs philosophers. software needs innovation. innovation needs philosophy.

[OT] - Requesting Comments for Open Source Rework Business Concept

2006-05-20 Thread Ilias Lazaridis
You may remember the request for comments at the start of this year: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/b0e3487ef8b13eed http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/b0e3487ef8b13eed - The services of Lazaridis System Design have reached pre-release state and will be soon

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