Re: multi-core software

2009-06-06 Thread John Thingstad
variables and declarative concurrency' and onward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(programming_language) - John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Complexity And Tedium of Software Engineering

2009-06-05 Thread John Thingstad
the languages Erlang and Oz to get an idea. - John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-30 Thread John Thingstad
! David Perl is solidly based in the UNIX world on awk, sed, bash and C. I don't like the style, but many do. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality

2008-05-08 Thread John Thingstad
the ANSI group could have spent more time on naming. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python's doc problems: sort

2008-04-30 Thread John Thingstad
constitute a copywright infrigment :) -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a new language

2007-12-29 Thread John Thingstad
testing. Create regression tests to verify application functionality and user acceptance. There is also a Lisp interface cl-selesium though I can't find the code on the net now. -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Choosing a new language

2007-12-29 Thread John Thingstad
)) create variables with dynamic scope. let and let* do as you said use a lexical scope. (unless you use a declare as above) -- John Thingstad -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is laziness a programer's virtue?

2007-04-15 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:25:19 +0200, Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laziness, Perl, and Larry Wall Xah Lee, 20021124 In the unix community there's quite a large confusion and wishful thinking about the word laziness. In this post, i'd like to make some clarifications. American Heritage

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-17 Thread John Thingstad
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:19:49 +0100, //[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So don't (poke (random) value). That would be obvious to anyone capable of writing a device driver in C or Lisp or Oberon or Similarly in C programs, don't do *random = 0; Avoiding that is

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-16 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:19:40 +0100, //[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incorrect, I believe. The above is like saying Lisp's lack of optional manual storage allocation and machine pointers makes Lisp less powerful. It's in fact the absence of those features that lets garbage collection work

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-13 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:13:26 +0100, Paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not even close. In my example above: for a in y: dosomethingwith(a) y could be a lot of built-in types such as an array, list, tuple, dict, file, or set. - Paddy. I was refering to the recursive Lisp example. Did you

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-13 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:39:44 +0100, Timofei Shatrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Dec 2006 18:03:49 -0800, Paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] tried to confuse everyone with this message: There are a lot of people that use Wikipedia. I think some of them might want to learn to program. I think you

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-12 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:58 +0100, Paddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Uhl wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Speaking as somebody who programmed in FORTH for a while, that doesn't impress me much. Prefix/postfix notation is, generally speaking, more of a pain in the

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:04:04 +0100, mystilleef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Atkins wrote: Are any of these not subjective? Objectivity is in the eye of the beholder. Lisp is much more than a functional language. Maybe so. But I've only ever appreciated its functional aspects. I

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:49:59 +0100, mystilleef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donkeys have wings. ? You attitude towards CLOS is obviously insane. In the windows world the best way to access system libraries are via .NET. Thus each language inventing it's own libraries is quickly becoming

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 01:29:43 +0100, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my god! Lisp can echo STRINGS to the interpreter Why didn't somebody somebody tell me that That *completely* changes my mind about the language! I'm especially impressed that it knew I wanted them

Re: What is Expressiveness in a Computer Language

2006-06-26 Thread John Thingstad
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:11:22 +0200, Anton van Straaten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this context, the term latently-typed language refers to the language that a programmer experiences, not to the subset of that language which is all that we're typically able to

Re: Software Needs Philosophers

2006-05-23 Thread John Thingstad
On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:58:12 +0200, John D Salt jdsalt_AT_gotadsl.co.uk wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Snips] Wrong. We live in a paradise of ideas and possibilities well beyond the wildest dreams of only 20 years ago. What exciting new ideas exist in software

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: accountability lying thru the teeth

2006-02-14 Thread John Thingstad
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:33:49 +0100, Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i longed for such a accountable predictions for a long time. Usually, some fucking fart will do predictions, but the problem is that it's not accountable. So, lots fuckhead morons in the IT industry will shout ... more

Re: write a loopin one line; process file paths

2005-10-24 Thread John Thingstad
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:48:01 +0200, Xah Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot for various notes. Bonono? I will have to look at the itertools module. Just went to the doc http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.1/lib/module-itertools.html looks interesting. But I believe Python is designed for

huygens lands on titan

2005-01-14 Thread John Thingstad
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