In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Jon Ribbens wrote:
does the word information set mean anything to you?
You would appear to be talking about either game theory, or XML,
neither of which have anything to do with HTML.
I notice that yet again you've snipped the substantial
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
What do XML Information Sets have to do with escaping control
characters in HTML?
figure out the connection, and you'll have the answer to your substantial
point.
If you don't know the answer, you can say so y'know. There's no shame
in it.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Quinlan wrote:
Well, there are dozens (hundreds?) of templating systems for Python.
I know, I wrote one of them ;-)
t = Template(test.html)
t['foo'] = 'Brian - Hi!'
assert str(t) == 'pBrian -gt; Hi/p'
So how would you test our template system?
What I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Quinlan wrote:
If, in the example that I showed, the less-than character was not
correctly escaped, then it might not manifest itself frequently in a
typical application because the less-than character is seldom used in
English prose.
OK, but effectively
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
maybe you haven't done software long enough to understand that
software works better if you use it the way it was intended to be
used, but that's no excuse for being stupid.
So what's your excuse?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
If you're really serious about making things easier to use, shouldn't
you look at the whole picture? HTML documents are byte streams, so
any transformation from internal character data to HTML must take both
escaping and encoding into
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
(still waiting for the jon's enhanced escape proposal, btw, but I guess it's
easier to piss on others than to actually contribute something useful).
Well, yes, you certainly seem to be good at the pissing on others
part, even if you have to lie
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Duncan Booth wrote:
It is generally a principle of Python that new releases maintain backward
compatability. An incompatible change such proposed here would probably
break many tests for a large number of people.
Why is the suggested change incompatible? What
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
There's nothing to say that cgi.escape should take them both into account
in the one function
so what exactly are you using cgi.escape for in your code ?
To escape characters so that they will be treated as character data
and not control
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Georg Brandl wrote:
I'm sorry, that's not good enough. How, precisely, would it break
existing code? Can you come up with an example, or even an
explanation of how it *could* break existing code?
Is that so hard to see? If cgi.escape replaced ' with an entity
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Duncan Booth wrote:
I guess you've never seen anyone write tests which retrieve some generated
html and compare it against the expected value. If the page contains any
unescaped quotes then this change would break it.
You're right - I've never seen anyone do
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Max M wrote:
I'm sorry, that's not good enough. How, precisely, would it break
existing code? Can you come up with an example, or even an
explanation of how it *could* break existing code?
Some examples are:
- Possibly any code that tests for string equality
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Max M wrote:
Oh ... because you cannot see a use case for that *documented*
behaviour, it must certainly be wrong?
No, but if nobody else can find one either, that's a clue that maybe
it's safe to change.
Here's a point for you - the documentation for cgi.escape
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry, that's not good enough. How, precisely, would it break
existing code?
('owdo Mr. Ribbens!)
Good afternoon Mr Glover ;-)
URI= 'http://www.oreilly.com/'
html= cgi.escape(text)
html= html.replace('O\'Reilly', 'a
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Sorry, that's still not good enough.
that's not up to you to decide, though.
It's up to me to decide whether or not an argument is good enough to
convince me, thank you very much.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Filip Salomonsson wrote:
Here's a point for you - the documentation for cgi.escape says that
the characters , and are converted, but not what they are
converted to.
If the documentation isn't clear enough, that means the documentation
should be fixed.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
It's up to me to decide whether or not an argument is good enough to
convince me, thank you very much.
not if you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously.
Now you're just being ridiculous. In this thread you have been rude,
evasive,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Quinlan wrote:
Now you're just being ridiculous. In this thread you have been rude,
evasive, insulting, vague, hypocritical, and have failed to answer
substantive points in favour of sarcastic and erroneous sniping - I'd
suggest it's you that needs to worry
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Georg Brandl wrote:
Here's a point for you - the documentation for cgi.escape says that
the characters , and are converted, but not what they are
converted to.
It says to HTML-safe sequences. That's reasonably clear without the need
to reproduce the exact
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
You're proposing two separate functions:
1) quoting of non-wildcard specials
2) quoting of wildcard specials
Lawrence, you're wrong in this thread for the same reason you were
right in the cgi.escape thread. Escaping general
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Georg Brandl wrote:
Attributes can be quoted with either single or double quotes. That's what
the HTML spec says. cgi.escape doesn't correctly allow for that. Ergo,
cgi.escape is broken. QED.
A function is broken if its implementation doesn't match the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Making cgi.escape always escape the '' character would not break
anything, and would probably fix a few bugs in existing code. Yes,
those bugs are not cgi.escape's fault, but that's no reason not to
be helpful. It's a minor improvement with no
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
So I think the default for the second argument to cgi.escape should be
changed to True. Or alternatively, the second argument should be removed
altogether, and quotes should always be escaped.
you're confused:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Hugh wrote:
Sorry, here's an example...
5+7=12
added without carrying, 5+7=2
i.e the result is always less than 10
I've been thinking some more about this and my brain is starting to
work something out...
No need to think
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lad wrote:
I have a website written in Python and I would like to login every
visitor's IP address.
In other words, if a visitor come to my Python application, this
application will record his IP.
Depending on what CGI framework you're using, something like:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
import heading1
import heading2
While True:
heading = get_next_heading(file_ptr) # This func will return
heading1, then heading2(on next call)
if heading = :
break
getattr(heading, process)(file_ptr) # The problem,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Nelson wrote:
This is exactly what I want to do: every time I encounter this kind of
value in my code, increment the appropriate type by one. Then I'd like
to go back and find out how many of each type there were. This way
I've written seems simple enough
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], rh0dium wrote:
if os.fork() == 0:
os.setsid
sys.stdout = open(/dev/null, 'w')
sys.stdin = open(/dev/null, 'r')
I don't know if it's the cause of your problem, but you're not doing
the backgrounding right, it should be:
if os.fork():
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rony Steelandt wrote:
Yes, this is on windows using winzip
It says the zip file is not a valid zipfile
Works fine for me on Windows. Try deleting the file you downloaded,
clearing your browser cache, and trying again.
On the other hand, when you run it it
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pekka Karjalainen wrote:
from sys import stdout
help (stdout.closed)
If I do this, it gives me help on the bool object.
stdout.closed is a bool. What were you expecting it to show you?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hari Sekhon wrote:
I want to wrap a whole script in try ... except. What is the best way of
doing this?
You could do this maybe:
import sys
def excepthook(exc_type, exc_value, tb):
import modules_needed_to_notify_exception
...
sys.excepthook =
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So basically, instead of typing in on the command line argument I want
to have it in a python program and let it do the action.
Try exec() and execfile() from the standard library (IIRC)
Ths os.spawn...() functions are likely to be
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Holden wrote:
Of course, if the client forces the TCP PSH flag true then the receiver
is guaranteed to debuffer the stream up to that point - this is how FTP
clients work, for example.
I don't think that's right. You are confusing the PSH flag (which is
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Holden wrote:
I don't think that's right. You are confusing the PSH flag (which is
basically unused in Unix networking I think) and the URG flag (which
is extremely rarely used, but is indeed used by FTP to get abort
requests to 'jump the queue' as it were).
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Lambacher wrote:
At least on windows. PySqlite is statically linked with the sqlite library.
This can be done because it is quite small.
OK, well that makes sense, but why not on any other platform?
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but how does including the pysqlite
wrapper module change anything? You still need to download and install
SQLite
I'm pretty sure the distributors will do this for you, just as
they've included zlib, dbm,
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh wrote:
these days, most end users get their Python either with their OS,
or by downloading a prebuilt installer.
Oh, ok. I've just never heard such people referred to as the
distributors before. It sounds like some sort of TV series! ;-)
I guess I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aahz wrote:
On that front, I think that pysqlite is much more important because
it finally gets rid of the excuse for using Berkeley for simple
database purposes.
Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but how does including the pysqlite
wrapper module change anything?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roy Smith wrote:
This may even be useful. What if you were trying to emulate SQL's
NULL? NULL compares false to anything, even itself.
Strictly speaking, comparing NULL to anything gives NULL, not False.
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex Martelli wrote:
I guess in python we use two idioms to cover most of the uses of
mulltiple constructors:
... and classmethods. OK, _three_ idioms. Oh, and factory functions.
Among the idioms we use are the following...
Nobody expects the Spanglish
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote:
Hi,there. Sometimes a python CGI script tries to output great
quantities of HTML responce or in other cases, it just falls into a
dead loop. How could my client close that CGI script running on the
server? I tried to use the STOP
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin v. Löwis wrote:
In any case, it doesn't matter what encoding the document is in:
read(2) always returns two bytes.
It returns *up to* two bytes. Sorry to be picky but I think it's
relevant to the topic because it illustrates how it's difficult
to change the
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