On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 12:42 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 02:37, Peter Bona via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am wondering if there has been any discussion why NoneType is not
> iterable My feeling is that it should be.
The following f-string does not parse and gives syntax error on 3.11.3:
f'thruput/{"user" if opt.return else "cell"} vs. elevation\n'
However this expression, which is similar does parse correctly:
f'thruput/{"user" if True else "cell"} vs. elevation\n'
I don't see any workaround.
Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I'm doing something that I've never done before and need some advise for
> suitable libraries.
>
> I want to
>
> a) create diagrams similar to this one
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyh7rxbcogvecs1/graph.png?dl=0 (but with more
> nodes) and save them as PDFs or some
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 3:21 AM Neal Becker wrote:
>>
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:27 AM Neal Becker
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have code with structure:
>> >> ```
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:27 AM Neal Becker wrote:
>>
>> I have code with structure:
>> ```
>> if cond1:
>> [some code]
>> if cond2: #where cond2 depends on the above [some code]
>> [ more code]
>>
>>
Rhodri James wrote:
> On 11/02/2019 15:25, Neal Becker wrote:
>> I have code with structure:
>> ```
>> if cond1:
>>[some code]
>>if cond2: #where cond2 depends on the above [some code]
>> [ more code]
>>
>>else:
>>
I have code with structure:
```
if cond1:
[some code]
if cond2: #where cond2 depends on the above [some code]
[ more code]
else:
[ do xxyy ]
else:
[ do the same xxyy as above ]
```
So what's the best style to handle this? As coded, it violates DRY.
Try/except could be used
dieter wrote:
> Vincent Vande Vyvre writes:
>> I am working on a python3 binding of a C++ lib. This lib is installed
>> in my system but the latest version of this lib introduce several
>> incompatibilities. So I need to update my python binding.
>>
>> I'm working into a virtual environment
I find pickle really handy for saving results from my (simulation)
experiments. But recently I realized there is an issue. Reading the saved
results requires loading the pickle, which in turn will load any referenced
modules. Problem is, what if the modules have changed?
For example, I just
Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 26.09.18 um 12:28 schrieb Bart:
>> On 26/09/2018 10:10, Peter Otten wrote:
>>> class Break(Exception):
>>> pass
>>>
>>> try:
>>> for i in range(10):
>>> print(f'i: {i}')
>>> for j in range(10):
>>> print(f'\tj: {j}')
>>> for k in range(10):
>>> print(f'\t\tk:
Has anyone tried to optimize shared libraries (for loadable python modules)
using gcc with profile guided optimization? Is it possible?
Thanks,
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uition (and yours) seems to be
> wrong. Can you provide a reproducible test case? I'd be inclined to
> run that through dis.dis to see what bytecode was produced.
>
> Paul
>
> On 3 October 2017 at 16:08, Neal Becker <ndbeck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In the following code (pytho
In the following code (python3):
for rb in filter (lambda b : b in some_seq, seq):
... some code that might modify some_seq
I'm assuming that the test 'b in some_seq' is applied late, at the start of
each iteration (but it doesn't seem to be working that way in my real code),
so that if
When I worked on talking to some hardware in the past, the hardware was
directly mapped to memory, and then numpy mmap worked great. Maybe not the
same hardware interface you have.
Rob Gaddi wrote:
> So long as we're all feeling so concerned about speed lately...
>
> I've got a piece of
Neal Becker wrote:
> I want to make sure any modules I build in the current directory overide
> any
> others. To do this, I'd like sys.path to always have './' at the
> beginning.
>
> What's the best way to ensure this is always true whenever I run python3?
Sorry if I was u
I want to make sure any modules I build in the current directory overide any
others. To do this, I'd like sys.path to always have './' at the beginning.
What's the best way to ensure this is always true whenever I run python3?
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I saw this article, which might interest some of you. It discusses
application to ruby, but perhaps might have ideas useful for python.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1604.03641
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Stefan Behnel wrote:
> CFLAGS="-O3 -march=native" pip install --no-use-wheel
Thanks, not bad. But no way to put this in a config file so I don't have to
remember it, I guess?
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I'd like to add -march=native to my pip builds. How can I do this?
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sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 10:33:47 AM UTC-8, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Is there a way to ensure resource cleanup with a construct such as:
>>
>> x = load (open ('my file', 'rb))
>>
>> Is there a way to ensure this file gets clos
Is there a way to ensure resource cleanup with a construct such as:
x = load (open ('my file', 'rb))
Is there a way to ensure this file gets closed?
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How do I build pythran3?
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, serge guelton <
serge.guel...@telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote:
> (sorry for the double posting, if any)
>
> Dear pythraners and pythonists,
>
> The pythran team (a great total of 2 active developers) is delighted to
> announce the release of
I'm a bit surprised that an object() can't have attributes:
In [30]: o = object()
In [31]: o.x = 2
---
AttributeErrorTraceback (most recent call last)
in ()
> 1 o.x = 2
AttributeError:
I have a custom-compiled numpy 1.10.0. But as you see, pip wants to install
a new numpy, even though the requirement (numpy>=1.6) was already satisfied.
WTF?
All are installed into --user.
This is on fedora 22 linux.
pip install --up --user matplotlib
Collecting matplotlib
Using cached
Chris Warrick wrote:
> On 30 October 2015 at 13:14, Neal Becker <ndbeck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a custom-compiled numpy 1.10.0. But as you see, pip wants to
>> install a new numpy, even though the requirement (numpy>=1.6) was already
>> satisfied. WTF?
>&
Trying regex 2015.07.19
I'd like to match recursive parenthesized expressions, with groups such that
'(a(b)c)'
would give
group(0) - '(a(b)c)'
group(1) - '(b)'
but that's not what I get
import regex
#r = r'\((?[^()]|(?R))*\)'
r = r'\(([^()]|(?R))*\)'
#r = r'\((?:[^()]|(?R))*\)'
m =
I have code like:
if (condition):
do_something_needing_cleanup
code_executed_unconditionally
cleanup has to happen here if required, even if above did return, continue
or exception
Now, how can I make sure cleanup happens? Actually, what I really would
like, is:
if (condition):
Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:57:30 -0400, Neal Becker writes:
I know we have try/finally, but I don't think that helps here, because
code_executed_unconditionally couldn't be inside the try. Or am I missing
something obvious?
I think so. Either that or I am
Irmen de Jong wrote:
On 24-7-2015 16:57, Neal Becker wrote:
I have code like:
if (condition):
do_something_needing_cleanup
code_executed_unconditionally
cleanup has to happen here if required, even if above did return,
continue or exception
Now, how can I make sure cleanup
http://begriffs.com/posts/2015-06-17-thinking-with-laziness.html
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Chris Warrick wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the most annoying problems with py2/3 interoperability is that the
pickle formats are not compatible. There must be many who, like myself,
often use pickle format for data storage
One of the most annoying problems with py2/3 interoperability is that the
pickle formats are not compatible. There must be many who, like myself,
often use pickle format for data storage.
It certainly would be a big help if py3 could read/write py2 pickle format.
You know, backward
from itertools import ifilter
if all (hasattr (b, 'test') for b in ifilter (lambda b: b 10, [1,2,3,4])):
print 'True'
same result using filter instead of ifilter.
hasattr (b, 'test') where b is 1, 2, 3... should all be False. So why does
this print True?
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Nevermind - I found the answer. I was trying this in ipython with pylab:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7491951/python-builtin-all-with-generators
Neal Becker wrote:
from itertools import ifilter
if all (hasattr (b, 'test') for b in ifilter (lambda b: b 10,
[1,2,3,4])):
print
Looking at heapq, I see only nlargest/nsmallest provide a key= arg. What
about other operations, such as heapify? Am I not understanding something?
I suppose for other ops, such as heapify, I can only customize comparison by
customizing the object comparison operators?
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π wrote:
Hello Python people,
I've made a C++ wrapper for Python.
I've called it PiCxx and put it up here: https://github.com/p-i-/PiCxx
https://github.com/p-i-/PiCxx
That project runs out of the box on OS X and should be pretty easy to
adapt for other OS. Any help providing demo
I can write a member
F.__iadd__ (self, *args)
and then call it with 2 args:
f = F()
f.__iadd__ (a, b)
And then args is:
(a, b)
But it seems impossible to spell this as
f += a, b
That, instead, results in
args = ((a, b),)
So should I just abandon the idea that += could be used this way?
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2015-02-13 13:35, Neal Becker wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
@profile
def run():
pass
run()
No, this doesn't work either. Same failure
kernprof -l test_prof.py
Wrote profile results to test_prof.py.lprof
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/nbecker
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2015-02-11 01:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
To quote from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/line_profiler/
$ kernprof -l script_to_profile.py
kernprof will create an instance of LineProfiler and insert it into the
__builtins__ namespace with the name
Robert Kern wrote:
@profile
def run():
pass
run()
No, this doesn't work either. Same failure
kernprof -l test_prof.py
Wrote profile results to test_prof.py.lprof
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/nbecker/.local/bin/kernprof, line 9, in module
Ethan Furman wrote:
On 02/10/2015 04:06 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
I inserted
@profile
def run(...)
into a module-level global function called 'run'. Something is very wrong
here. 1. profile results were written before anything even ran
2. profile is not defined?
kernprof -l
I inserted
@profile
def run(...)
into a module-level global function called 'run'. Something is very wrong here.
1. profile results were written before anything even ran
2. profile is not defined?
kernprof -l ./test_unframed.py --lots --of --args ...
Wrote profile results to
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Neal Becker wrote:
I inserted
@profile
def run(...)
into a module-level global function called 'run'. Something is very wrong
here. 1. profile results were written before anything even ran
2. profile is not defined?
Well, is it defined? Where does it come
Trying out pypeg2. The below grammar is recursive. A 'Gen' is an ident
followed by parenthesized args. args is a csl of alphanum or Gen.
The tests 'p' and 'p2' are fine, but 'p3' fails
SyntaxError: expecting u')'
from __future__ import unicode_literals, print_function
from pypeg2 import *
Ian Kelly wrote:
On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
Trying out pypeg2. The below grammar is recursive. A 'Gen' is an ident
followed by parenthesized args. args is a csl of alphanum or Gen.
The tests 'p' and 'p2' are fine, but 'p3' fails
SyntaxError
I have an object that expects to call a callable to get a value:
class obj:
def __init__ (self, gen):
self.gen = gen
def __call__ (self):
return self.gen()
Now I want gen to be a callable that repeats N times. I'm thinking, this
sounds perfect for yield
class rpt:
def __init__
Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Neal Becker writes:
Is there a more elegant way to spell this?
for x in [_ for _ in seq if some_predicate]:
If you mean some_predicate(_), then possibly this.
for x in filter(some_predicate, seq):
handle(x)
If you mean literally some_predicate
Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Neal Becker writes:
Is there a more elegant way to spell this?
for x in [_ for _ in seq if some_predicate]:
If you mean some_predicate(_), then possibly this.
for x in filter(some_predicate, seq):
handle(x)
I like this best, except probably even better
Is there a more elegant way to spell this?
for x in [_ for _ in seq if some_predicate]:
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Can I change behavior of py3 to return nan for 0./0. instead of raising an
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I'm trying to track down a memory leak in a fairly large code. It uses a lot
of
numpy, and a bit of c++-wrapped code. I don't yet know if the leak is purely
python or is caused by the c++ modules.
At each iteration of the main loop, I call gc.collect()
If I then look at gc.garbage, it is
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-03-11, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Sturla Molden sturla.molden at gmail.com writes:
Chris Withers chris at simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Hi All,
I see python now has a plethora of async frameworks and I need to try
and pick one to use from:
dieter wrote:
Wesley nisp...@gmail.com writes:
I wanna use gdb to attach my running python scripts.
Successfully import libpython in gdb, but seems all py operations failed to
read python information.
Here is the snippet:
(gdb) python
import libpython
end
(gdb) py-bt
#3 (unable to read
Charles R Harris charlesr.har...@gmail.com Wrote in message:
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Imo the lesson here is never write in low level c. Use modern
py3 includes a fairly compelling feature: nonlocal keywork
But backward compatibility is lost. It would be very helpful
if this was available on py2.x.
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I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd
like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default values.
For example, here's one of my programs:
python3 test_freq3.py --help
usage: test_freq3.py [-h] [--size SIZE] [--esnodB ESNODB]
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote:
I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd
like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default
values.
For example, here's one of my programs:
python3 test_freq3.py
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-11-22 16:52, Neal Becker wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-11-22 14:56, Neal Becker wrote:
I use arparse all the time and find it serves my needs well. One thing I'd
like
to see. In the help message, I'd like to automatically add the default
values.
What
http://ceylon-lang.org/documentation/1.0/introduction/
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IIUC, it is perfectly legitimate to do install into --user to override system-
wide installed modules. Thus, I should be able to do:
pip install --user --up blah
even though there is already a package blah in
/usr/lib/pythonxxx/site_packages/...
But even with -I (ignore installed) switch, pip
In py2.7 this was accepted, but not in py3.3. Is this intentional? It seems
to
violate the 'principle' that extraneous parentheses are usually allowed/ignored
In [1]: p = lambda x: x
In [2]: p = lambda (x): x
File ipython-input-2-2b94675a98f1, line 1
p = lambda (x): x
^
The change in integer division seems to be the most insidious source of silent
errors in porting code from python2 - since it changes the behaviour or valid
code silently.
I wish the interpreter had an instrumented mode to detect and report such
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Oscar Benjamin
oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 August 2013 16:15, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
The change in integer division seems to be the most insidious source of
silent errors in porting code from python2 - since
So my son is now spending his days on c# and .net. He's enthusiastic about
async and await, and said to me last evening, I don't think python has
anything
like that. I'm not terribly knowledgeable myself regarding async programming
(since I never need to use it). I did look at this:
Dave Angel wrote:
On 07/11/2013 12:57 AM, Jason Friedman wrote:
Other than using a database, what are my options for allowing two processes
to edit the same file at the same time? When I say same time, I can accept
delays. I considered lock files, but I cannot conceive of how I avoid race
breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
The gmane site is online but none of the Python lists I subscribe to have been
updated for over 24 hours. I fired off an email yesterday evening to larsi +
gmane at gnus dot org but I've no idea whether there's anybody to read it, or
even if it's actually been
A bit OT, but the widespread use of rfc 6347 could have a big impact on my
work.
I wonder if it's likely to see widespread use? What are likely/possible use
cases?
Thank.
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Did you intend to give anyone permission to use the code? I see only a
copyright notice, but no permissions.
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rusi wrote:
On Oct 29, 8:20 pm, andrea crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote:
snipped
Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why?
Im not sure how what the 'prefer' is about -- your specific num
wrapper or is it about the general question of choosing mutable or
immutable types?
Is there a way to specify to format I want a floating point written with no
more
than e.g., 2 digits after the decimal? I tried {:.2f}, but then I get all
floats written with 2 digits, even if they are 0:
2.35 yes, that's what I want
2.00 no, I want just 2 or 2.
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I wonder if there is a recommended approach to handle this issue.
Suppose objects of a class C are serialized using python standard pickling.
Later, suppose class C is changed, perhaps by adding a data member and a new
constructor argument.
It would see the pickling protocol does not directly
Etienne Robillard wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 06:42:03 -0400
Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if there is a recommended approach to handle this issue.
Suppose objects of a class C are serialized using python standard pickling.
Later, suppose class C is changed, perhaps
I know this should be a fairly basic question, but I'm drawing a blank.
I have code that looks like:
for s0 in xrange (n_syms):
for s1 in xrange (n_syms):
for s2 in xrange (n_syms):
for s3 in xrange (n_syms):
for s4 in range (n_syms):
Neal Becker wrote:
I know this should be a fairly basic question, but I'm drawing a blank.
I have code that looks like:
for s0 in xrange (n_syms):
for s1 in xrange (n_syms):
for s2 in xrange (n_syms):
for s3 in xrange (n_syms
I have a list of dictionaries. They all have the same keys. I want to find
the
set of keys where all the dictionaries have the same values. Suggestions?
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I noticed this and thought it looked interesting:
http://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Regexp-
Grammars-1.021/lib/Regexp/Grammars.pm#DESCRIPTION
I'm wondering if python has something equivalent?
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Dieter Maurer wrote:
moo...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
...
Does pickle have any advantages over json/yaml?
It can store and retrieve almost any Python object with almost no effort.
Up to you whether you see it as an advantage to be able to store
objects rather than (almost) pure data with a
moo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
This is a general question, loosely related to python since it will be the
implementation language. I would like some suggestions as to manage simulation
results data from my ASIC design.
For my design,
- I have a number of simulations testcases
Am I correct that a module could never come from a file path with a '.' in the
name?
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I meant a module
src.directory contains
__init__.py
neal.py
becker.py
from src.directory import neal
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Dave Angel d...@davea.name wrote:
On 06/18/2012 09:19 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
Am I correct that a module could never come from a file path
Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 08Jun2012 14:36, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
| If a new file is created by open ('xxx', 'w')
|
| How can I control the file permission bits? Is my only choice to use chmod
| after opening, or use os.open?
|
| Wouldn't this be a good thing to have
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 6/9/2012 10:08 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
Doesn't anyone else think it would be a good addition to open to specify a
file
creation mode? Like posix open? Avoid all these nasty workarounds?
I do,
If a new file is created by open ('xxx', 'w')
How can I control the file permission bits? Is my only choice to use chmod
after opening, or use os.open?
Wouldn't this be a good thing to have as a keyword for open? Too bad what
python calls 'mode' is like what posix open calls 'flags', and
Jon Clements wrote:
Hi All,
Normally use Google Groups but it's becoming absolutely frustrating - not only
has the interface changed to be frankly impractical, the posts are somewhat
random of what appears, is posted and whatnot. (Ironically posted from GG)
Is there a server out there
Probably boost ITL (Interval Template Library) would serve as a good example.
I
noticed recently someone created an interface for python.
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I'm testing some software I'm building against an alternative version of a
library. So I have an alternative library in directory L. Then I have in an
unrelated directory, the test software, which I need to use the library version
from directory L.
One approach is to set PYTHONPATH whenever
I've been using arparse with ConfigureAction (which is shown below). But, it
doesn't play well with positional arguments. For example:
./plot_stuff2.py --plot stuff1 stuff2
[...]
plot_stuff2.py: error: argument --plot/--with-plot/--enable-plot/--no-plot/--
without-plot/--disable-plot: invalid
Is there a version of cython.py, pyext.py that will work with c++?
I asked this question some time ago, but never got an answer.
I tried the following code, but it doesn't work correctly. If the commented
lines are uncommented, the gcc command is totally mangled.
Although it did build my 1
What happens if I pickle a class, and later unpickle it where the class now has
added some new attributes?
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Peter Otten wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:34:34 -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
What happens if I pickle a class, and later unpickle it where the class
now has added some new attributes?
Why don't you try it?
py import pickle
py class C:
... a = 23
...
py c
Heiko Wundram wrote:
Am 05.02.2012 12:49, schrieb Alec Taylor:
Solve this problem using as few lines of code as possible[1].
Pardon me, but where's the problem? If your intention is to propose a
challenge, say so, and state the associated problem clearly.
But this really misses the
I was just bitten by this unexpected behavior:
In [24]: all ([i 0 for i in xrange (10)])
Out[24]: False
In [25]: all (i 0 for i in xrange (10))
Out[25]: True
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Mark Dickinson wrote:
On Jan 31, 6:40 am, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
I was just bitten by this unexpected behavior:
In [24]: all ([i 0 for i in xrange (10)])
Out[24]: False
In [25]: all (i 0 for i in xrange (10))
Out[25]: True
What does:
import numpy
all is numpy.all
python has builtin zip, but not unzip
A bit of googling found my answer for my decorate/sort/undecorate problem:
a, b = zip (*sorted ((c,d) for c,d in zip (x,y)))
That zip (*sorted...
does the unzipping.
But it's less than intuitively obvious.
I'm thinking unzip should be a builtin function,
I agree with the OP that the current syntax is confusing. The issue is, the
meaning of * is context-dependent.
Why not this:
Func (*args) == Func (unpack (args))
def Func (*args) == Func (pack (args))
That seems very clear IMO
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Clarification: where can packing/unpacking syntax be used?
It would be great if it were valid essentially anywhere (not limited to
parameter passing).
What about constructs like:
a, @tuple tail, b = sequence?
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Gelonida N wrote:
On 11/30/2011 01:32 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
I like to hash a list of words (actually, the command line args of my
program) in such a way that different words will create different hash, but
not sensitive
to the order of the words. Any ideas?
Do youmean hash like digest
I like to hash a list of words (actually, the command line args of my program)
in such a way that different words will create different hash, but not
sensitive
to the order of the words. Any ideas?
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