Re: Structured programming with optionParser

is required for this example to work. Many thanks, very useful. -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Structured programming with optionParser

riables global? Thanks, -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to Embed PHP in HTML print

ll write it here: print urllib.urlopen('http://myserver.com/phpscript.php').read() That's it. *One* line. The output from the php script is: and the one-liner seamlessly prints that to insert it into the html output. And I thought it would be hard; I should have known be

How to Embed PHP in HTML print

up" and does some server-side includes? Many thanks for any help. -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Vim breaks after Python upgrade

words probably reflected my disbelief at the time. FWIW, sed'ing 's:2\.5:2\.6:g' doesn't work. It does change some strings, but not (apparently) the numbers that matter. -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Vim breaks after Python upgrade

f "2.5.2" to "2.6.2", or are the library locations used by the loader coded in binary rather than ascii (and so, harder to find)? Thanks, -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Create object from variable indirect reference?

Many thanks for the replies. getattr() works great: >>> name='Moon' >>> m2 = getattr(ephem,name)() >>> m2.compute(home) >>> print ephem.localtime(m2.rise_time) 2009-11-11 01:30:36.02 shows the moon will rise at 1:30am localtime tonight at my

Create object from variable indirect reference?

nd line with a quasi bashism that obviously fails: moon2 = ephem.${!options.body}() Can someone point me in the right direction here? (The library is PyEphem, an extraordinarily useful library for anyone interested in astronomy.) Many thanks, -- NickC -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On Jun 4, 9:56 pm, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those unit tests should *not*, though, exercise anything but the > public API, otherwise they're breaking encapsulation. Their assertion > should continue to be just as true after a refactoring of the internal > components as before. Pytho

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On Jun 4, 9:24 pm, Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NickC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > if/else was added solely because people kept coming up with ways of > > embedding a pseudo conditional inside expressions and writing buggy > > code in the pr

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On Jun 4, 4:41 pm, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido has been known to change his mind, which is an admirabele quality, > but it does show that at some point he rejected a good idea or accepted > a bad idea. And sometimes the person that talked him into accepting the bad idea in the

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On May 25, 8:01 pm, Fuzzyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Python was not really written with 'difficult' customers in mind ;-) > > True. It's extremely suited to what we do though.Minor difficulties > like this are vastly outweighed by advantages. The difficulties are > real though. It's interes

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On Jun 4, 4:09 am, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it about leading underscores that bothers me? To me, they are > like a small pebble in your shoe while you are on a hike. Yes, you can > live with it, and it does no harm, but you still want to get rid of it. With leading underscore

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On May 26, 2:49 pm, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am also bothered a bit by the seeming inconsistency of the rules for > the single underscore. When used at file scope, they make the variable > or function invisible outside the module, but when used at class > scope, the "underscored" va

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

On May 26, 7:32 am, "Joe P. Cool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw this "don't need it" pattern in discussions about the ternary > "if..else" expression and about "except/finally on the same block > level". > Now Python has both. if/else was added solely because people kept coming up with ways o

Re: Java or C++?

On Apr 15, 1:46 pm, Brian Vanderburg II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This will automatically call the constructors of any contained objects > to initialize the string. The implicit assignment operator > automatically performs the assignment of any contained objects. > Destruction is also automatic

Re: Finally had to plonk google gorups.

Hmm, according to this thread I probably shouldn't bother even trying to contribute to c.l.p discussions that are highlighted in the Python- URL announcements, even in cases where I think a core developer's perspective may be of interest. As someone that only posts here rarely, and uses Google Grou

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

On Mar 19, 6:07 am, Jeff Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I have never attended PyCon, the amount of entertainment already > gleaned from this thread has wildly exceeded my expectations. :) Are > slides or notes from any of the presentations available online? What > was the topic of the wel

Re: for-else

On Mar 4, 11:27 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The meaning is explicit. While "else" seems to mean little there. > So I may like something similar for Python 3.x (or the removal of the > "else"). Consider a loop with the following form: while 1: if : <0-to-many times code block> else:

Re: How about adding rational fraction to Python?

On Mar 4, 7:11 am, Lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 2, 11:36 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > > > > Try with a=7, b=25 > > > > They should still compare true, but they don't. The reason why they > > > don't is because of float's finite precision, which is not exactly > > >

Re: Embedding a literal "\u" in a unicode raw string.

On Feb 26, 8:45 am, rmano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, 2to3.py should warn when a raw string (not unicode) with \u in > it, I think. > I tried it and it seems to ignore the problem... Python 3.0a3+ (py3k:61229, Mar 4 2008, 21:38:15) [GCC 4.1.3 20070929 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.2-16ubuntu2)]

Re: Module/package hierarchy and its separation from file structure

On Jan 31, 12:27 am, Gabriel Genellina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python stores filename and line number information in code objects > (only). If you have a reference to any code object (a method, a > function, a traceback...) inspect can use it to retrieve that > information. Aside from general

Re: Bizarre behavior with mutable default arguments

On Jan 1, 3:22 am, Arnaud Delobelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 31, 10:58 am, Odalrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm surprised noone has said anything about the why of default > > mutables. I think it is becasue it isn't easy to do it an other way. > > [...] > > There is an easy enou

Re: getting n items at a time from a generator

On Dec 27 2007, 11:31 pm, Kugutsumen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 27, 7:24 pm, Terry Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "Kugutsumen" == Kugutsumen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Kugutsumen> On Dec 27, 7:07 pm, Paul Hankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Dec 27, 11:34

Re: Python 3.0 migration plans?

On Sep 30, 2:29 am, John Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking of starting work on converting Python FIT to 3.0, and > then they posted PEP 3137. I think it's a real good idea, but it shows > that 3.0a1 isn't ready for a conversion effort. > > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3137/ > >

Re: Would Anonymous Functions Help in Learning Programming/Python?

On Sep 24, 9:16 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > Matthew Woodcraft a écrit : > > One reason for the different syntax is that functions, unlike most > > other objects, know their own names (which can be shown in tracebacks > > and the like). > > Nope. They know *one* of their names - the one they'v

Re: Python 2.4 online certification - new items available for Beta testing

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Randy> There is a free Beta test of a Python 2.4 Certification test > Randy> available at Brainbench.com. They are a provider of skills-based > Randy> certification exams. Go to the link below to find the test. It > Randy> is free to take the test. > > Ra

Re: Are Python's reserved words reserved in places they dont need to be?

Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Antoon Pardon wrote: > > > One place where I would use such a feature is in a unittest > > package. I think being able to write self.assert or self.raise > > looks better than having to append an underscore. > > patch here: > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/20

Re: Log rolling question

If you're on Python 2.4, then consider whether or not you can use a TimedRotatingLogFileHandler from the logging module to handle this for you: http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.1/lib/node344.html Of course, that only works if defining a "month" as 30 days is acceptable. If you genuinely need calendar

Re: Path inherits from basestring again

[Re: how to get at the base class] Do you really want to have a "only works for Path" way to get at the base class, rather than using the canonical Path.__bases__[0]? How about a new property in the os.path module instead? Something like os.path.path_type. Then os.path.path_type is unicode if an

Re: Path inherits from basestring again

[Re: alternatives to overloading '/'] Is there a reason the Path constructor is limited to a single argument? If it allowed multiple arguments, the following would seem very straightforward: p = Path(somePath, user.getFolder(), 'archive', oldPath + ".bak") I'm usually not much of a purist, but C

Re: Proposal: reducing self.x=x; self.y=y; self.z=z boilerplate code

Ralf, I'd be very interested to hear your opinion on the 'namespace' module, which looks at addressing some of these issues (the Record object, in particular). The URL is http://namespace.python-hosting.com, and any comments should be directed to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion list. Regards, N

Re: Favorite non-python language trick?

Steven D'Aprano wrote: > with colour do begin > red := 0; blue := 255; green := 0; > end; > > instead of: > > colour.red := 0; colour.blue := 255; colour.green := 0; c = colour c.red = 0; c.blue = 255; c.green = 0 del c # Not strictly needed, but limits the scope of c When everything's a referenc

Re: Which kid's beginners programming - Python or Forth?

> Gentle folk of comp.lang.python, I heartily thank you all for your > input. I think I'm taking the boys through the door marked "Logo." We > may be back this way, though. We will likely need MORE in the nebulous > future. I am impressed with the outpouring of support here! Before you commit

Re: case/switch statement?

Andrew Durdin wrote: > In this case the dictionary is obviously a better and clearer choice. > I've generally found for other circumstances where I've used switch > statements that the code ends up more readable if it's reorganised so > that the switch statements are all of the form above, or are >