On 2/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I have Dabo installed on my system. I made a small test app, but was
> unable to deploy it. I was getting an error from py2exe, I think, about how my
> wxPython installation was not correct. This is the kind of thing I am talking
> ab
On 2/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My goal was to test out Python by writing a simple GUI app and then deploying
> it to Mac OS X and Windows XP. Using a product such as RealBasic, a totally
> green newbie could accomplish this in a few minutes.. So, I guess my main
> quest
On 16 Feb 2006 14:07:36 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> snoe wrote:
>
> > Take a look at dabo, II think they're doing exactly what you're
> > describing.
> > http://blog.dabodev.com/
>
> Dabo appear to be doing way more than what I want, with database access
> etc.
That was m
On 2/14/06, Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a freelance Python programmer to create a cross-platform
> application with wxPython.
> Any idea where I could find one?
You should check out the Dabo project, which is a very impressive
framework that uses wxPython for its UI. The
On 2/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having some slight trouble understanding exactly why this creates an
> infinite loop:
>
> L = [1, 2]
> L.append(L)
'L' is a pointer to a list. You are now adding that pointer to the
very list it points to.
What you're looking for is:
L =
On 2/13/06, Andre Roberge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While I agree that dabo's version is more Pythonic than wxPython, my
> understanding is that dabo is built on top of wxPython.
Yes. You get all the power of wxPython without having to deal with the
C++ style of coding.
> There are
> other fr
On 12 Feb 2006 17:27:56 -0800, André <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's also possible to something like that with wxPython. Try:
> import wx
> app = wx.PySimpleApp()
> dlg = wx.TextEntryDialog(None, 'Enter value', 'Title', '')
> if dlg.ShowModal() == wx.ID_OK:
> val = dlg.GetValue() # this li
On 2/11/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, it seems
> very Windows/Linux-centric. Is anyone using it on OS X?
I almost forgot: take a look at this screencast:
http://leafe.com/screencasts/sizers2.html
It's the second part of a demonstration on using sizers in the Dabo
visual de
On 2/11/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dabo looks interesting, but isn't it mainly for database applications?
> Has any other kind of application been developed with it? Also, it seems
> very Windows/Linux-centric. Is anyone using it on OS X?
The Dabo demo comes with several games
On 2/10/06, Kevin Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm undertaking my first semi-substantial Python GUI application after a
> long time dabbling with the language.
>
...
> So: my question is, would it be more productive for me to wrestle with
> these extensions when there doesn't seem to be muc
On 1/12/06, Marco Meoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm building a GUI of a network manager that send its commands in xml files.
> I would can write xml files from GUI (that is in wxPython). Have you
> understand from my "spaghetti" english?
Yes, your English is fine. Much better than my Italian!
On 13 Jan 2006 10:06:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there or should there be a Python Desktop Framework? It would be
> great to have something like Turbogears for desktop apps.
You might want to look at Dabo (http://dabodev.com). They are the far
and away the best fra
On 10 Jan 2006 13:33:20 GMT, Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMO if they aren't of the same type then the answer to:
>
> a < b
>
> is just as obviously False as
>
> a == b
>
> Yet how things are proposed now, the first will throw an exception
> and the latter will return False.
I d
On 27 Dec 2005 10:02:17 -0800, Gekitsuu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My
> hypothetical situation was as follows. I'm writing a new generic SQL
> module and I want to make it so I only call the appropriate module for
> the type of SQL server I'm talking to. Then it would make sense to
> load, for in
On 12/14/05, Magnus Lycka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's my impression that code generation leads to more duplication
> and less code reuse. It's easy to whip up a new class or window
> that duplicates a lot of already existing code, with those graphical
> tools.
Of course, Visual designer !=
On 14 Dec 2005 13:49:39 -, TwistyCreek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And by the by... visual tools ARE evil.
>
> It's like your dad getting his drunken bar buddies to plow your mother
> because he's too fat to do it himself. The unfortunate offspring of any
> such union is equally the bastard
On 12/13/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why this need to have everyone do things the way you do?
>
> Whatever makes you think I have this need? I said I hated them. I'm
> pretty sure I didn't say everyone should have to use them.
Sorry, but there is a world of difference between sa
On 12/13/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A GUI builder is more pleasant to work with, at least
> > with a good one like Delphi or Qt designer.
>
> That is your opinion, and I'm sure it's true for you. It isn't true
> for me.
Why, then, do you disparage those who like to do things di
On 12 Dec 2005 08:26:06 -0800, Tuvas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need a function that will tell if a given variable is a character or
> a number. Is there a way to do this? Thanks!
Use isinstance().
e.g.:
x = 7
isinstance(x, int)
-> True
isinstance(x, basestring)
-> False
x = "Hello"
isinstan
On 12/4/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause
> >> problems, too.
> > Only if you don't know how decent editors behave. :)
>
> But the same is also true of tabs causing problems :-).
I'm starting to suspect that the same people
On 12/4/05, Lee Harr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone agrees that mixing is bad. I might even go so far as to
> say that the only real problem is mixing. The question is, if we
> are trying to pick only one, which one causes fewer problems.
>
> For me, it is spaces.
Why is it that the only p
On 11/25/05, Sybren Stuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'd go for wxPython ;-)
I'd go for Dabo, which is a Pythonic wrapper around wxPython. They are
even working on a visual design tool to lay out your UI, much as you
would in Visual Basic.
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On 6 Nov 2005 12:08:23 -0800, gsteff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PyGTK is just easier to code with. The api is much nicer.
That's why I think that Dabo's UI module is the best of all worlds. It
wraps wxPython, so the controls look great on any platform, but
provides a cleaner and more consisten
On 11/1/05, Jarek Zgoda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Things didn't change, as last update to adodbapi was long time ago... I
> had no problems with stored procedures accessed using cursor's execute()
> method (i.e. execute('exec sp_someproc, param')), but I never tried to
> get any results, just c
On 9 Oct 2005 18:16:32 -0700, Clint Norton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well,
> I though about it but I'm looking for something a little more
> interesting then bug fixing...
> Anyway, wouldn't it be to difficult to get into a huge project like
> python itself? Wouldn't it be a better idea to w
On 10/3/05, spiffo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a corporate developer, working for a single company. Got a new project
> coming up and wondering if I should stay with Python for this new, fairly
> large project, are jump back on the 'safe' M$ bandwagon using a dot net
> language? Cross platfo
On 10/3/05, Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The default of this list is not to make conversations private; in fact
> the list doesn't have any default. It's you who chooses to send replies
> to the original author, to the list, or both, by choosing which button
> to press in your mail
On 10/3/05, Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed, and that's by design: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
Of course, that's only one side of the argument:
http://www.blackgate.net/consulting/reply-to_munging_useful.html
On lists like this, where everyone benefits by s
On 9/19/05, Ed Hotchkiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps you can
> google:asshole and see if your image is present, I would highly doubt that
> it is not within the first page of results.
Now that's a reply I'm gonna have to copy!!! ;-)
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On 9/15/05, Ed Hotchkiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to create a simple script to access a MySQL DB.
> The Module for MySQL looks very easy, however I do not understand one thing
> ...
>
> In ASP, you can just create a new DB with Access. In MySQL, how do I create
> a database to
On 9/13/05, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, there are some lighter-weight wrappers that make the
> API more Pythonic and hide the nasty stuff like the id and flag
> parameters. I tried "wax" a while back and it looked
> promising.
I looked at Wax, too, but as of last spring it
On 9/13/05, Rod W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
> applications with some user interface (GUI).
>
> Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
> wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or PyGTK (with Glade I assume)?
>
On 12 Sep 2005 08:28:39 -0700, Chuck
> Can anyone provide any kind of python database (mysql) code or point me
> to a link that has this? Just simple things as maybe using a driver,
> opening up a db, an insert and select. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated!
It might be more than you're l
On 18 Aug 2005 10:58:46 -0700, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OTOH, the big sucking sound from Google and Yahoo (plus other places
> like Ironport) is making it more difficult to hire Python programmers in
> the Bay Area...
Then start looking for telecommuting people. There are lots of us who
On 8/17/05, Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know how to set optional arguments in the function definition. Is there an
> intrinsic function that determines if a certain argument was actually
> passed ? Like the fortran 95 present() logical intrinsic ?
>
> My required functionality
On 8/16/05, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, they may have created a library class that does the job for
> them. Figuring out which is which seemed to be the point of this
> thread.
I guess my summary of the thread was that a library is built to do one
thing, while a framework is bui
On 8/16/05, Terry Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where a framework shines is when you don't really want to program
> it much at all -- you just need a tweak here and there beyond what
> it already does. Gimp plugins are a great example of that.
I'd put it slightly differently. Where a fram
On 14 Aug 2005 03:49:08 -0700, TPJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I should have added that my platform is Linux.
>
> In this case you shouldn't bother yourself with executables. Python is
> available on any major distribution.
>
> My Python apps are available as pyc files for Linux (and for those
On 8/14/05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The paragraph is as below, I mark the word quiet with *** ***.
> ___
> One problem with distributed applications is that if no data arrives
> over a long period of time, you need to wonder why. On one hand, it
> cou
On 8/11/05, Jeremy Moles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, I am just curious... we plan on using it, at any rate. It's
> already made the code easier to read, faster, and more reliable.
Looks pretty useful to me!
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On 8/8/05, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I'm trying to say is that posting to c.l.py is absolutely
> ineffective in achieving that goal. Code attracts people that like to
> code. Tedious, repetitive c.l.py threads attract people that like to
> write tedious, repetitive c.l.py threa
On 07 Aug 2005 02:42:43 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Björn Lindström) writes:
> > I don't see why the things you talk about would have to be part of the
> > main Python distribution. Ruby on Rails seems to do pretty well without
> > being included w
On 01 Aug 2005 13:38:21 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We were discussing your 'enormous pain' installing wxPython. I find it
> > interesting that you selectively quoted part o
On 01 Aug 2005 12:50:56 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> I seem to be in a minority here
Wow, you finally said something that I agree with!
> but I vote for avoiding such dependencies as much as possible.
This isn't a contest here. Do what you like, and don't expec
On 01 Aug 2005 12:58:57 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > Geez, can you whine some more? Most people are running wxPython just
> > fine,
>
> Most people? What percentage of actual Python users do you think have
> wxPython installed? If you're really claiming it's ove
On 31 Jul 2005 09:03:41 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> How on earth did you decide that, since tkinter actually runs out of
> the box when you install Python on most platforms, and wxPython doesn't?
> I can't even think about trying out Dabo unless I'm willing to go th
On 8/1/05, Cliff Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally, all I expect is an obvious pointer to a mailing list and a
> helpful community willing to suffer NB questions (fast bugfixes is a big
> plus too). If that's available, I'm happy. But then I'm willing to
> actually work a little to g
On 31 Jul 2005 16:22:09 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> I spent several hours trying to install wxPython on Linux without
> success (a lot of that was figuring out that some undefined symbol it
> was complaining about was some GTK 1.5 function that had didn't exist
> in
On 31 Jul 2005 08:40:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how do i encorporate that into an equation ?
> i have tried all kinds of stuff
>
> if x == 0L
> if x(0) == None
> if x == None
>
> anyway, what shoud i do to test if the result is empty?
Just like any other test:
if
On 30 Jul 2005 12:06:43 -0700, Paul Rubin
<"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> wxPython also depends on wxWidgets which lags behind GTK.
Can you elaborate on that? It's been over a year since I last looked
at GTK, but I do remember not being very impressed with how it looked
on Windows and O
On 7/30/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You found a solution for you, which is a good thing. I don't want
> to rule out to use Dabo myself. But in my institute I'd like to
> present Python as a viable alternative to Delphi. In order to
> convince people who are used to a homog
On 7/30/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, wxPython itself is largely the work of a single person, but
> > I doubt that many consider that a reason to avoid it.
>
> But the developer and contributor base is much larger, so the
> project has reached the critical mass.
So unt
On 7/30/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm aware of it (and there is Wax and maybe a third one). Actually
> it illustrates my point quite well: These projects are small and
> instable (Dabo has a developer basis of very few people, Wax has
> only one); they are even worse docume
On 7/30/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been having a closer look at wxPython which is not Pythonic at
> all and bad documented. Probably I'll use it nevertheless. PyGTK
> and PyQt may have their own advantages and disadvantages.
>
> However, in my opinion we don't need ye
On 26 Jul 2005 12:44:13 -0700, Ernesto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would anyone know a good place to start for learning how to build
> simple GUI's in Windows XP? I just want users to be able to select a
> few parameters from a pull-down menu, then be able to run some batch
> files using the par
On 7/24/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I had a look at wxPython
> yesterday and didn't like that it has been brought into the Python
> world nearly unchanged. You can see its non-Python origin clearly.
> How does PyGTK feel in this respect?
T
On 7/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is anyone know about a DB form generator unit under wxPython ?
> What that's means ?
>
> I add information about a Query, or a ListOfDict, I set some other infos
> (Lookups, others), and it is generate a Form with edit boxes, listboxes,
>
On 7/18/05, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using regular expressions and I would like to use both
> re.IGNORECASE and re.VERBOSE options. I want to do something like the
> following (which doesn't work):
>
> matsearch = r'''^\ {0,4}([mM]\d+) '''
> MatSearch = re.compile(matsearch, re.VE
On 18 Jul 2005 07:52:06 -0700, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I form a new wxPython date using day, month and year?
>
> I've tried the wx.DateTimeFromDMY but it crashes in Pythonwin when I
> test it out and I get all manner of complaints when I try it from the
> command line.
>
> Surel
On 7/12/05, Dark Cowherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most lists when i hit reply it puts the list address back in the To
> address and some lists allow you to configure this.
>
> But in this list reply sends the mail back as a private mail and there
> seems to be no option to configure this.
>
On 7/3/05, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would suggest not speculating on biased or malicious intentions. It is
> possible that no one applied with a proposal to work on Dabo, or that
> such a proposal was poorly written, or that the author had too little
> experience, or any number o
On 7/2/05, Reinhold Birkenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A.M. Kuchling wrote:
> > For anyone who's interested: the Python wiki now contains a list of the
> > PSF-mentored proposals that were accepted for Google's Summer of Code:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode
>
> Is it right
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