On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 1:45:37 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
Now which should be considered definitive, the language reference or
the PEP? This question is not rhetorical; I don't know the answer.
Regardless of the answer though, the PEP at least illuminates the
design intent of the
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 10:22:51 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
As best as I can see python makes no distinction between such a foo and
the more usual function/methods that have no returns.
You can I can talk about
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 9:45:10 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Causing all sorts of unnecessary confusions:
An int-function returns int and a char*-functions returns char*.
Does a void-function return void??
No a void function
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:34:27 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
A generator (function) may be a function which returns an iterator,...
I find generator-function misleading in the same way that pineapple
misleadingly suggests apple that grows on pines
A builtin function is a
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 3:28:11 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dave Angel wrote:
Not if you don't take it to him. If you just call him on the phone, and say
Jimmy doesn't work he doesn't even know what make and model the vehicle
is. Or whether
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 8:59:22 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:34:27 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
A generator (function) may be a function which returns an iterator,...
I find generator-function misleading in the same way that pineapple
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 9:15:39 AM UTC+5:30, Paul Rubin wrote:
Mario Figueiredo writes:
Question: How much money is this group, taken as the whole of the python
world, spending on remote hosting per month?
I'd wager very little, since most options are completely free.
Oh come on,
On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:53:50 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
And even there I would expect generators to close with StopIteration
Whereas I would expect coroutines to close (on close method) with
GeneratorExit
[Ive
This is more a question about standard terminology/conventions than about
semantics - of course assuming I understand :-)
Say I have a simple yielding function:
def foo(x):
yield x+1
yield x+2
And I have
g = foo(2)
If I look at type, g's type is 'generator' whereas foo is just plain-ol
On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:00:17 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 11:25:32 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody :
I guess we need
1. A clear ontology of the base concepts (which is a buzzword for
nailed-down
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 11:25:32 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody :
I guess we need
1. A clear ontology of the base concepts (which is a buzzword for
nailed-down terminology)
According to the documentation, a function whose definition contains a
yield statement
Guess I should be pleased that I am doing as good as you (and Chris) describe.
For some reason or not I am not...
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 9:58:07 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
This is more a question about standard terminology/conventions than about
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 12:05:05 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
As to the notion of rejecting the construction of strings containing
these invalid codepoints, I'm not sure. Are there any languages out
there that have a Unicode string type that requires that
On Monday, March 9, 2015 at 7:39:42 AM UTC+5:30, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 07Mar2015 22:09, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
[...big snip...]
Some parts are here some earlier and from my memory.
If details wrong please correct:
- 200 million records
- Containing 4 strings
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:39:48 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
This includes not just bug-prone-system code such as Java and Windows but
seemingly working code such as python 3.
What Unicode bugs do you think Python 3.3 and above have?
Literal/Legalistic
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 11:41:53 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/6/2015 11:20 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
=
pp =
print (pp)
=
Try open it in idle3 and you get (at least I get):
$ idle3 ff.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/idle3
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 11:49:44 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 07/03/2015 17:16, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence:
It would clearly help if you were to type in the correct UK English
accent.
Your ad-hominem-to-contribution ratio is alarmingly high.
Marko
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 5:04:02 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:13:55 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:57:12 AM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us
wrote:
It's been brought
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:57:12 AM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us wrote:
It's been brought up on Stack Overflow that the in operator (on
tuples, and by my testing on dict and list, as well as dict lookup) uses
object identity as a shortcut, and returns true immediately if the
object being
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:08:07 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
Allow me to summarize this subthread:
* sohcahtoa makes a comment implying that this list is full of nerds
who know nothing about dating. Gender-nonspecific and most likely
self-deprecating as much as insulting.
* I
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:20:22 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:50:35 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip example of an analogous situation with NULs]
Strawman.
Sigh. If I had a dollar for every time somebody cried
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:13:55 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:57:12 AM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us
wrote:
It's been brought up on Stack Overflow that the in operator (on
tuples, and by my testing on dict and list, as well
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:33:11 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
Lets please stick to UTF-16 shall we?
Now tell me:
- Is it broken or not?
- Is it widely used or not?
- Should programmers be careful of it or not?
- Should programmers be warned about it or not?
Also:
Can a programmer
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:31:58 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
In a language like python with decent exceptions we do not need nans.
Not so. I could perhaps accept that we don't need signalling NaNs, as
they can be replaced
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:50:35 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
My conclusion: Early adopters of unicode -- Windows and Java -- were
punished
for their early adoption. You can blame the unicode consortium, you can
blame
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:24:48 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Broken systems can be shown up by anything. Suppose you have a program
that breaks when it gets a NUL character (not unknown in C code); is
the fault with the Unicode
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:29:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:31:58 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
In a language like python with decent exceptions we do not need nans
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:48:07 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
You dont grok your theory of computation very well do you?
def foo(x): return x + x
def bar(x): return x + x
def baz(x): return 2*x
One can imagine
On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 10:36:54 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
alister wrote:
a popular UK soap made an extreme
effort not to show a cross or Christmas tree during a church wedding in
case it offended not-Christians.
In today's climate, when offending certain varieties
of
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 10:49:54 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody:
You keep talking of accent.
At first I thought you were using the word figuratively or else joking.
Im now beginning to wonder if you mean it literally.
If so have you patented a new AOIP protocol
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 7:36:32 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:25:24 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
It lists some examples of software that somehow break/goof going
On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 1:03:13 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Steven D'Aprano:
Care to enlighten us then? Because your anecdote doesn't appear to
have even the most tenuous relationship to this discussion.
Even more important, when you talk about Python or other computer stuff
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 6:46:32 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
llanitedave :
Seems the ultimate in irony when a language invented by a Dutchman and
named after a British comedy troupe gets bogged down in an argument
about whether its users are sufficiently American.
No, the
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+5:30, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 19:51:31 -0800 (PST), Rustom Mody wrote:
I dont know what you are saying Mario or even whom you are addressing
I was replying directly to Marko. I don't think it is possible to
establish
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/26/2015 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Wrote something up on why we should stop using ASCII:
http://blog.languager.org/2015/02/universal-unicode.html
I
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 10:25:24 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
It lists some examples of software that somehow break/goof going from
BMP-only
unicode to 7.0 unicode.
IOW the suggestion is that the the two-way
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 12:14:11 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
What I was trying to say expanded here
http://blog.languager.org/2015/03/whimsical-unicode.html
[Hope the word 'whimsical' is less jarring and more accurate than
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 9:35:28 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:24:40 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/26/2015 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 12:07:06 AM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote:
Le mardi 3 mars 2015 19:04:06 UTC+1, Rustom Mody a écrit :
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/26/2015 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:24:40 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/26/2015 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Wrote something up
On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:25:04 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Wielicki wrote:
I wonder whether this discussion has anything to do with the Uncanny
Valley [1].
snipped
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
That's right.
And thanks for the reference.
Had seen that some time but forgot
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 8:21:53 AM UTC+5:30, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 17:30:42 +0200, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Steven D'Aprano:
But for Britons to use American English is, in a way, to cease to be
Britons at all.
Did Hugh Laurie have to turn in his British
On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 10:32:00 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark Lawrence :
Are you suggesting that we Brits have a single home accent? If you
are, you need to stand up as your voice is rather muffled. That by the
way is a British expression that may or may not be used
On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:34:05 PM UTC+5:30, Cousin Stanley wrote:
From : Tim Chase
A quick google-and-tally for languages
and their corresponding number of keywords:
re-sorted
21 : Lua
31 : Python2.x
33 : Python3.x
33 : C
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 6:10:25 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:12:09 AM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
On 02/24/2015 02:57 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
Dave Angel
are you another Native English speaker living in a world where ASCII
is enough
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:16:11 PM UTC+5:30, Sam Raker wrote:
I'm 100% in favor of expanding Unicode until the sun goes dark. Doing so
helps solve the problems affecting speakers of underserved
languages--access and language preservation. Speakers of Mongolian, Cherokee,
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:12:09 AM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
On 02/24/2015 02:57 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
Dave Angel
are you another Native English speaker living in a world where ASCII
is enough?
I'm a native English speaker, and 7 bits is not nearly enough. Even if
I
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/26/2015 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Wrote something up on why we should stop using ASCII:
http://blog.languager.org/2015/02/universal-unicode.html
I
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 10:33:44 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
You should add emoticons, but not call them or the above 'gibberish'.
Done -- and of course not under gibberish.
I dont really know much how emoji are used but I understand they are.
JFTR I consider it necessary to be
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:35:37 AM UTC+5:30, bay...@gmail.com wrote:
'http://xthunder'.strip('http://')
'xthunder'
'http://thunder'.strip('http://')
'under'
I could understand backslash but forward slash?
Others have answered specifically.
However you probably want to look
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 2:51:34 AM UTC+5:30, candide wrote:
Official Python documentation very frequently invokes a mysterious
*container* data structure. The PLR manual explains :
--
Some objects contain references to other objects; these are called
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 11:59:55 PM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-8, Fabien wrote:
... what a coincidence then that a huge majority of scientists
(including me) dont care AT ALL about unicode. But since scientists are
not paid
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 10:42:59 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody :
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 6:06:03 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa
wrote:
The problem with xkbmap is that I don't know how to specify a new
keyboard map as a regular user. I know how
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:24:33 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
xkb supercedes xmodmap which is increasingly unsupported
ie it does all of the earlier functionality and much more
Only catch is to have to read impenetrable docs :-)
Ive been directed
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 7:57:48 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 2/11/2015 1:00 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 11/02/2015 13:11, Rustom Mody wrote:
Context:
I am using idle for taking python classes.
Teaching or taking?
Teaching -- I would like to mail¹ students the interaction
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 9:50:15 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
$ setxkbmap -query# examine current settings
Alas, that does not appear to work in Debian squeeze:
steve@runes
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 5:52:49 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 9:50:15 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
$ setxkbmap -query# examine current settings
unsupported.
Rustom Mody wrote:
Can someone try out:
$ setxkbmap -layout us,gr -option grp:ralt_rshift_toggle
I tried it.
Earlier that used to work as a *toggle* ie a RAlt-RShift chord would
go to gr(eek) and another would come back to 'us'.
I noticed, thanks very much
Context:
I am using idle for taking python classes.
Finish the class and run out usually in a hurry and forget to save the
idle interaction window. Would like to save it so that I can mail it to the
students.
In emacs I could set a hook to make arbitrary 'buffers' like the python-idle
shell
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 6:50:35 PM UTC+5:30, Fabien wrote:
On 11.02.2015 14:11, Rustom Mody wrote:
Context:
I am using idle for taking python classes.
I know this is not your question, but: have you considered using iPython
notebooks for teaching? They save automatically, look
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:36:23 AM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote:
I know this is way off-topic for this group, but I figured if anyone
in the online virtual communities I participate in would know the
answer, the Pythonistas would... Google has so far not been my friend
in this
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 9:40:50 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
$ setxkbmap -query# examine current settings
Alas, that does not appear to work in Debian squeeze:
steve@runes:~$ setxkbmap -query
Error! Option -query not recognized
On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 9:25:45 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 09/02/2015 11:28, Rustom Mody wrote:
Poking around in help() (python 3.4.2) I find
* PACKAGES
does not seem to have anything on packages
* DYNAMICFEATURES
seems to be some kind of footnote
On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 3:52:19 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
Wanted to try out sympy.
apt-install promised ź GB download, ž GB space usage
Just getting a src-tarball was: 6M download, 30M after opening the tar.
Have you actually tried compiling and using
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC+5:30, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
Skip Montanaro writes:
I know this is way off-topic for this group, but I figured if anyone
in the online virtual communities I participate in would know the
answer, the Pythonistas would... Google has so far
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 9:50:15 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
$ setxkbmap -query# examine current settings
Alas, that does not appear to work in Debian squeeze:
steve@runes
Poking around in help() (python 3.4.2) I find
* PACKAGES
does not seem to have anything on packages
* DYNAMICFEATURES
seems to be some kind of footnote
* SPECIALATTRIBUTES
has 'bases' and 'subclasses'. It seems to me a more consistent naming
for OOP would be in order. These are the OOP-metaphors
On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 8:43:44 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
There is on the one hand python modules/packages mechanism with all the
hell of dozens of incompatible versions of setuptools/distribute/distutils
etc.
On the other there is the OS-specific practices/policy
On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 7:35:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Ethan Furman writes:
On 02/06/2015 04:44 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
A program will often have enough complexity that its implementation
occupies several sub-modules. There's no need to explose those in a
site
On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 6:40:23 PM UTC+5:30, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Sorry for late reply, I somehow missed this email.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
The reason I ask: I sorely miss haskell's pattern matching in python.
It goes some way:
((x,y),z) = ((1,2
On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 6:40:23 PM UTC+5:30, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
Sorry for late reply, I somehow missed this email.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
The reason I ask: I sorely miss haskell's pattern matching in python.
It goes some way:
((x,y),z) = ((1,2
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 10:15:29 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 9:39:27 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 9:39:27 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:36 AM, Peter Otten wrote:
Another alternative is to put a list
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 8:14:29 PM UTC+5:30, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Chris Angelico
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: meaning of: line, =
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 1:08 AM, ast wrote:
I dont understand why there is a
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 1:13:30 PM UTC+5:30, Paul Rubin wrote:
Steven D'Aprano writes:
No apples and no oranges aren't the same thing, but if somebody is
expecting
no apples, and I give them no oranges instead, it would be churlish for
them
to complain that none of them are
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 10:57:27 AM UTC+5:30, Vito De Tullio wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Checking the REPL first would have revealed that [].__dir__ raises
AttributeError. In other words, lists don't have a __dir__ method.
?
Python 3.4.2 (default, Nov 29 2014, 00:45:45)
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 4:51:18 AM UTC+5:30, Gabriel Ferreira wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
I don't actually know, but could you please provide some context and
write in plain English, those damn ... things are extremely annoying.
Hi, Mark.
I am developing a research
How many people (actually machines) out here are vulnerable?
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/80210/ghost-bug-is-there-a-simple-way-to-test-if-my-system-is-secure
shows a python 1-liner to check
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:40:35 PM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 02/02/2015 08:52, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
And there are underspecified rules too. What is the plural of octopus? No
fair looking it up in
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 9:51:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
The other day I was taking a class in which I was showing
- introspection for discovering -- help, type, dir etc at the repl
- mapping of surface syntax to internals eg. a + b ←→ a.__add__(b
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:22:51 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 9:51:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
The other day I was taking a class in which I was showing
- introspection for discovering -- help, type, dir etc
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:34:53 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:22:51 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 9:51:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
The other day I was taking a class in which I
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 5:52:58 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Esthetically, I'm most impressed with Scheme. One day it might give
Python a run for its money.
Marko
Aren't you getting this backwards?
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 4:34:14 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Yesterday, as I wrote that message, my web browser crashed *eight times* in
a matter of half an hour. There are thousands of serious security
vulnerabilities due to mishandled pointers. Anyone who thinks that Linux
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 11:13:29 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody:
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 5:52:58 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Esthetically, I'm most impressed with Scheme. One day it might give
Python a run for its money.
Aren't you getting
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 at 10:15:13 AM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 01/31/2015 07:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
But by default, Python will fallback on __repr__ if __str__ doesn't exist,
or __str__ if __repr__ doesn't exist, or both. Or something. (I always
forget what the rules
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC+5:30, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 30.01.15 um 02:40 schrieb Rustom Mody:
FORTRAN
use dictionary
type(dictionary), pointer :: d
d=dict_new()
call set(d//'toto',1)
v = d//'toto'
call dict_free(d)
The corresponding python
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:39:12 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 01/30/2015 09:27 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
... if I restate that in other words it says that sufficiently
complex data structures will be beyond the reach of the standard
RAII infrastructure.
Of course this only
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:01:50 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:39:12 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 01/30/2015 09:27 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
... if I restate that in other words it says that sufficiently
complex data structures
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:09:19 AM UTC+5:30, beli...@aol.com wrote:
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:01:00 AM UTC-5, Liu Zhenhai wrote:
Hi,
I am not sure here is the right place to ask this question, but I want to
give it a shot:)
are there fortran libs providing python like
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 7:52:58 AM UTC+5:30, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:38:20 +0100, franssoa
declaimed the following:
Hello,
(please excuse my english as is not my primary language)
- I own a webcam that take a picture of outside of my house once per minute.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:39:34 PM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, at 01:59, Ben Finney wrote:
You have no justification to claim that, and it's hostile and dismissive
to claim it so assertively.
Sorry about that - I was tired and had just read
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:45:41 PM UTC+5:30, Neal Becker wrote:
Is there a more elegant way to spell this?
for x in [_ for _ in seq if some_predicate]:
Depends on what follows the ':'
In the trivial case all thats outside the comprehension can be dropped:
[x for x in [y for y in
Following some posts here I thought I'd try python on android via kivy.
Followed the tutorials -- involved a couple of GBs(!!) of downloads
using something called buildozer
Finally got a hello world running on a phone -- Yay!
Now when I try to go from hello world to something a more
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 7:55:12 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 1/27/15 7:17 PM, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
Ned Batchelder says...
A common mistake is to believe that OOP is a well-defined term. It's
not it's a collection of ideas that are expressed slightly differently
in
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 11:31:46 AM UTC+5:30, random wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, at 00:43, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:37 PM, random832 wrote:
Sub itself is not a Sub object, it is a type object. instance is
implicit in the phrase foo object.
Yes.
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:18:07 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
On 28/01/2015 10:24 AM, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
In other words, the object know as Sub class is not an instance
object. True, it is an instance of the object 'type'.
class Foo:
... pass
...
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 10:55:32 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Python itself has answers to your questions:
isinstance(3, int)
True
isinstance(3, int)
False
isinstance(int, type)
True
isinstance(type, int)
False
isinstance(type, type)
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:42:47 AM UTC+5:30, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
This is a follow up from a previous discussion in which it is argued
that the following code produces the correct error message terminology,
considering that in Python an object is also an instance.
class
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Rustom Mody writes:
To add to Ian:
The classic way of doing it in a functional framework is called:
Replace failure by list of successes
https://rkrishnan.org/files/wadler-1985.pdf
The things
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