Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread Stefan Nobis
Paul Rubin writes: > Python is more readable than Lisp because it stays readable even if > you don't use it on a daily basis. Girls, this is really bullshit! None programming language is readable. I teach programming to complete beginners and I tried some languages --

Re: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-09 Thread Stefan Nobis
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Extensibility of syntax (via Lisp like macros)] > In the real world, programmers aren't lone wolves stalking the > programming landscape doing their own thing. Whether we're talking > open source projects maintained by volunteers, or commercial > softwa

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-09 Thread Stefan Nobis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > if anonymous functions are available, they're used in even more > cases where naming would help Yes, you're right. But don't stop here. What about expressions? Many people write very complex expression, that are hard to understand. A good language shoul

Re: Best Web dev language

2005-06-11 Thread Stefan Nobis
"Jon Slaughter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know of any detailed and objective comparisons > between the major languages(perl, php, java, javascript, etc...) > that might help me get a clearer picture? I don't know of any (really good) comparisions, but anyway here are my opinion:

Re: Newbie : checking semantics

2005-05-17 Thread Stefan Nobis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bengt Richter) writes: [block end statements] > Training wheels do no belong as a permanent part of a bicycle, Yes, but they would be useful for example in web programming (embedding Python into HTML), too. So they are not only training wheels. But that's not so important. Wha

Re: Newbie : checking semantics

2005-05-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
Andrew Dalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > See the program "pindent.py" Thanks for the hint, i didn't know about it. -- Stefan. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie : checking semantics

2005-05-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
rbt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > True beginners (no programming experience whatsoever) don't have > to deal with unlearning stuff such as the bracket plague. That's true. But they also not very used to give nothing (-> whitespace) a meaning. I teached quite some beginners and most of them had pr

Re: Newbie : checking semantics

2005-05-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
Andrew Dalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When you say "beginners" is that people with no previous > programming experience >From time to time I teach some programming (in an institution called "Volkshochschule" here in Germany -- inexpensive courses for adults). My Python course is for absolute

Re: Newbie : checking semantics

2005-05-16 Thread Stefan Nobis
"LDD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The fact that python doesn't check if the symbol > AFunctionThatIsntDefined is defined, is really bad when you > develop big pieces of code. Yes, that's one of my two points, that i think are misfeatures in Python, too. The problem is, that Python don't disting