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tb = sys.exc_info()[2]
raise
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is executed by Python, 'same' in this respect as code entered through the REPL.
In more detail, IDLE
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identify in which circumstances occurrences of 'match', 'case' and '_' are
keywords, and should be marked as such. I was initially unsure and even wrong
about '_'.
1. Capture
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Windows extensions to IDLE, #43710, thus assigning it to me and wasting my
time. (I reverted
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I agree with getting this in soon.
A related request is to to syntax highlight field expressions in f strings. I
don't think there is an existing issue. Apparently, at least some alternatives
to IDLE do this. I am not sure I would really want it, but we
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My plan for the next day or two is to submit followup issue for Shell and
formally code what I wrote.
The only way to handle soft keywords correctly is with a custom re. I don't
expect them to become common. They are different from builtins because
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Soft keywords are a huge nuisance for syntax highlighting as they need special
case regexes and tests.
Hard keywords are matched against complete words, regardless of whether the
context is syntactically valid or not. If 'for' and 'else' were the only
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Guido, Integer as synonym for Integral was your idea, or at least your
endorsement prompted me to file the issue. Other core devs don't think the
change is worth the trouble; I don't much care. Speak up if you want to revive
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No apology needed. I don't know what has been added to the devguide, but most
OPs never submit a PR unless they either do so or say they will when opening an
issue. In any case, a week is more than a chance
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There is also a 'copy only code' option. Like 'copy', these two new options
require a selection. They appear on the context menu when right-clicking
either on the sidebar or within the selection. Like the format region
commands, these new options operate
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Marking what expression evaluated to None would be extremely helpful. So would
marking the 0 denominator when there is more than one candidate: "e = a/b +
c/d". It should be easy to revise IDLE Shell's print_exception to tag the
span. In
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https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/e726a902b7c73a7056b7421d801e47255873
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The error message suggests somethng else is using something in an existing 3.9
directory, and that you should close everything and reboot your machine and try
again without running anything else.
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>From PEP 8:
right:label: str = ''
wrong:result: int=0 # No spaces around equality sign
current doc: quantity_on_hand: int=0):
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bpo-43935: Fix typo in Turtle.back() docstring (GH-25581)
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Unless you find documentation that says otherwise, this an enhancement proposal
for 3.11.
If no core developer (other than me) jumps on this, you might use git blame to
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Specific examples of current messages and proposed improvements would help
focus discussion.
If you are willing to only handle code lines up to 256 chars, only 2 bytes
should be needed. (0,0) or (255,255) could mean 'somewhere beyond the 256th
char
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New changeset 0048c60f01deec4435748e851f9ec21b504d2d2f by Tarjei Bærland in
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bpo-43935: Fix typo in Turtle.back() docstring (GH-25581)
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I was just about to try adding that exact cleanup close after finishing reading
emails ;-). Sorry I didn't think of it last night. Glad it worked. The
alternative would have been to skip the test case
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test_squeezer.ExpandingButtonTest accounts for most of the leak.
python -m test -R3:3 -v -ugui -m *zer.Expand* test_idle
test_idle leaked [576, 576, 576] references, sum=1728
test_idle leaked [282, 282, 282] memory blocks, sum=846
All 6 methods failed. I
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The only recently added tests are the 11 in test_sidebar.ShellSidebarTest.
Leak testing just these with
python -m test -R3:3 -ugui -m *Sidebar* test_idle
does not fail. Leak test all of test_idle with
>python -m test -R3:3 -v -ugui test_idle
ends af
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bpo-37892: Use space indents in IDLE Shell (GH-25678)
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Tests are needed. See review.
Thinking about tests makes me realize that we need to extract an EditorText
class that has the methods that only apply to the text component of
EditorWindow. That is most of them. This would make testing easier because
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I had a similar reaction, "weird", when I tried the isolated prompt a year or
whatever ago. I don't remember if I also changed the indent for that. But
when testing this patch, with space indents, a longer time, most of the weird
feeling dissip
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The base issue #37892 is about moving the IDLE Shell prompt away from the first
line of user code input, so that code starts at the margin where continuation
lines start and we can use space indents. I said the prompt could either go
left, into a sidebar
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I verified the claim in 3.19.0a7 freshly compiled today.
>>> import unicodedata as ud
>>> ud.decomposition('\uac00')
''
>>> for cp in range(0xac00, 0xd7a4):
if (s := ud.decomposition(chr(cp))) != '':
print(c
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has invalid signature". Guido, is this a bug? Even if not, docstring should
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Great!!! I also tried
>>> try: compile("a xyzjdkjfk", '', 'single')
except SyntaxError as e:
print(e, e.msg, e.lineno, e.offset, e.end_lineno, e.end_offset)
invalid syntax. Perhaps you forgot a comma? (, line 1) invalid s
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#def tearDownModule(): print('module teardown')
unittest.addModuleCleanup(print, 'module cleanup')
class Dummy(unittest.TestCase):
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self.addCleanup(print, 'test cleanup
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Close this? Upgrade done, twice.
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This started as an extraction and revision of changes in Tal's PR, one of which
appeared to be an intended behavior change, that I requested there. Paine may
have expanded the scope more than I intended. Will look soon
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When I looked at the table yesterday (after several years), I was initially
confused at the 'reversed' order (before I checked the text above). Besides
precedence usually (nearly always) being listed high to low*, the chapter
itself is highest to lowest
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New changeset b40564727fbe85932e92862e57fc065034d98dbf by Terry Jan Reedy in
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[3.8] bpo-43723: Backport IDLE doc change (GH-25174)
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New changeset 56c76df6e861322bdff77bfb21e5cd55fbacfad2 by Terry Jan Reedy in
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[3.9] bpo-43723: Revert IDLE doc change (GH-25174)
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I presume '^' means 'hit Tab'.
The underlying Python problem is that namespaces are conceptually mappings of
names (identifiers), a subset of strings, to objects. Python specifies that
the global namespace is a dict, which I believe could mean a dict
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And maybe discuss with pip people why 'pip install pip install zyx' is not
caught as an error.
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Python regexes match slices of a Python string s. The latter include the
len(s)+1 empty slices of s. An re Match gives both the slice itself as match
attribute and its slice coordinates (span) in the searched string.
https://docs.python.org/3/library
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You code as posted is buggy. 'settings' maps styles to dicts with possible
keys ‘configure’, ‘map’, ‘layout’ and ‘element create’. See
https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.ttk.html#tkinter.ttk.Style.theme_create
I presume '.' refers to all styles
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[3.8] bpo-43087: Fix error in ctypes "Incomplete Types" doc (GH-24404)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/754dc353565eeb4a43a912417cc5b6
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[3.9] bpo-43087: Fix error in ctypes "Incomplete Types" doc (GH-24404)
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I have an alternate replacement: "These lines can be confusing if the
sequences contain tab characters or other characters that result in the
indicator symbols in these lines being mislocated."
Or leave the current sentence as is.
E
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Thank you. I had forgotten about this. It also works as advertised in the
module docstring on Windows, 3.8 and 3.10. There has been no change to the
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Excuse me, it is the query boxes, not the search boxes, that already have the
call. Unlike the other boxes I initially tested, they do not have the traffic
lights. I believe that this, not movability, is the effect on mac of
'movableModal'. I tested
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I presume 'floatable' means 'can move dialog around on top of the parent
window'. On my Mac Air, with 3.8 and 8.6.8, all the dialogs I checked,
including About, are already floatable in this sense, not just the search boxes
(which already had "
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Thanks everyone for the rapid responses. The PR fixes the build for me, with a
clean test suite pass, so I added reviewers who could merge, a blurb, and my
approval. This can be closed as out-of-date as soon as the (or a) fix is
merged
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The upgrade to 8.6.10 broke a Scale test. The fix for that in #41306
conv = False if get_tk_patchlevel() >= (8, 6, 10) else float_round
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Did you use revision 0, and in 8.6.11.0, or a later one?
As I mentioned in #43719, I cannot currently build master, but I will upload a
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In issue 33656, we determined that tcl/tk *is* dpi aware and that telling
Windows so is needed for proper text display. IDLE now issues the same Windows
command (idlelib.pyshell, line 20). This perhaps should be done by Python
itself, but that is not my
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Re ""f:\dev\3x\PC\validate_ucrtbase.py" ucrtbased" exited with co
de -1073741819."
f:\dev\3x>py -3.10 PC\validate_ucrtbase.py ucrtbased
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ucrtbased.DLL is version 10.0.14393.33
so the failur
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> PCbuild\build.bat -D (or without -D)
on my machine ends with
python.vcxproj -> f:\dev\3x\PCbuild\amd64\python_d.pdb (Full PDB)
Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = (not set)
PYTHONPATH = 'f:\dev\
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After 3+ years of Github I did not remember that B diffs use lines with
change position markers and in particular that at they (often? always?) start
with ?s. IDLE also uses color to mark positions (for syntax errors). The
following would have been clearer
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Andre', direct issue like this to discussion forums like python-list.
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The quote is in the following section.
https://docs.python.org/3/library/difflib.html#difflib.Differ
I do not really understand the previous line "Lines beginning with ‘?’ attempt
to guide the eye to intraline differences, and were not present in either
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