Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Wrong. The only obligation Microsoft has is to their shareholders.
> That obligation has nothing to do with computing - it's to make a
> profit. It's MS's habit of doing things in pursuit of profit that,
> while short of force, are borderline fraud
Gordon Burditt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Before worrying about the possible bugs in the implementations,
> worry about security issues present in the *DESIGN*. Email ought
> to be usable to carry out a conversation *SAFELY* with some person out
> to get you. Thus features like this
In comp.lang.java.programmer Ross Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Roedy, I would just _love_ to see the response from the industry when you
> tell them they should dump their whole mail infrastructure, and switch
> over to a whole new system (new protocols, new security holes, n
In comp.lang.java.programmer Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or
quoted:
> Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Are there any examples of HTML email causing security problems - outside
> > of Microsoft's software?
>
> There was a pr
In comp.lang.java.programmer Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> MS has held BACK computer evolution by tying their OS so heavily to
> the Pentium architecture. The chip architecture has nowhere near
> enough registers. MS refused to believe the Internet was more than a
> passing f
Tim Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
[Microsoft]
> Part of their behavior really escape me. The whole thing about browser
> wars confuses me. Web browsers represent a zero billion dollar a year
> market. Why would you risk anything to own it?
Power. Minshare. Controlling the pla
In comp.lang.java.programmer Jeroen Wenting wrote or quoted:
> "Mike Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > "Jeroen Wenting" writes:
[Microsoft]
> >> no, they got their by clever marketing [snip]
> >
> > What you call "clever marketing" the DOJ calls "monopolistic
> > practices". The
In comp.lang.java.programmer Richard Gration <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or
quoted:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:51:16 +0000, Tim Tyler wrote:
> > Acorn computers. Manufacturers of the best computer I ever owned.
>
> I'm willing to bet that was an Arc ... ? I never used on
In comp.lang.java.programmer Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or
quoted:
> I'm aware of talk that Dell is selling Linux PCs at Walmart for less than
> the same hardware plus Windows. Talk is cheap -- I'm not aware of anyone
> who has actually seen these Linux PCs. I'd love to know either
In comp.lang.java.programmer Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or
quoted:
> Uh - when microsoft produced dos 1.0, or whatever it was, I was sitting
> at my Sun 360 workstation (with 4M of RAM, later upgraded to 8M),
> running SunOS 3.8 or thereabouts.
>
> And a mean game of tetris it pla
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> >> The technial problems have been solved for over a decade.
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> &
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:41:38 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>If you've got a browser with a better solution, what's the browser,
> >>and what's the solution?
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:56:50 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >>Show us *examples*! Do you create a style sheet for every site you
> >>visit that overrides there
In comp.lang.java.programmer Paul Boddie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Roedy Green wrote:
> > Just how long do you want to stall evolution? Do you imagine people
> > 200 years from now will be still be using pure ASCII text unable to
> > find a solution to JavaScript viruses (turn off JS
In comp.lang.java.programmer Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Read my essay.
> http://mindprod.com/projects.html/mailreadernewsreader.html
FYI, this bit:
``Like ICQ, someone cannot send you mail without your prior permission.
They can't send you mail because they don't have
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Read my essay.
> > http://mindprod.com/projects.html/mailreadernewsreader.html
> >
> > I talk around those problems.
>
> Actually, you present a design that forces a solution
In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> The technial problems have been solved for over a decade. NeXT shipped
> systems that used text/richtext, which has none of the problems that
> HTML has. The problems are *social* - you've got to arrange for
> people t
In comp.lang.java.programmer Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or
quoted:
> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 07:19:29 +, Roedy Green wrote:
> > Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>WHat the hell has that got to do with HTML email? Sending photos
> >>is an example of what attachments are for.
> >
>
Alan Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:14:45 GMT, Roedy Green
> >I try to explain Java each day both on my website on the plaintext
> >only newsgroups. It is so much easier to get my point across in HTML.
> >
> >Program listings are much more readable on my websi
Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Tim Tyler wrote:
> >Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> >>check this: http://wiki.w4py.org/pythonvsphp.html
> >
> >Good - but it hardly mentions the issue of security - which seems
> >like a bit
fuzzylollipop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> try spelling license correctly next time and heading the google
> suggestions that probably looked like "didn't you mean : Python License"
How do you spell license correctly?
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Mage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> check this: http://wiki.w4py.org/pythonvsphp.html
Good - but it hardly mentions the issue of security - which seems
like a bit of a problem for PHP at the moment.
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Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Tyler wrote:
> > Like C, Python seems to insist I declare functions before calling
> > them - rather than, say, scanning to the end of the current script
> > w
Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Like C, Python seems to insist I declare functions before calling
> them - rather than, say, scanning to the end of the current script
> when it can't immediately find what function I'm referring to.
>
> C lets yo
Like C, Python seems to insist I declare functions before calling
them - rather than, say, scanning to the end of the current script
when it can't immediately find what function I'm referring to.
C lets you predeclare functions to allow for the existence of
functions with circular dependencies.
D
I, Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> What do you guys think about Python's grouping of code via
> indentation?
Some relevant resources:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonWhiteSpaceDiscussion
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?IndentationEqualsGrouping
http:
Mike Wimpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> Other than being used to wrap Java classes, what other real use is
> there for Jython being that Python has many other GUI toolkits
> available? Also, these toolkits like Tkinter are so much better for
> client usage (and faster) than Swing, so wha
Javier Bezos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> "Tim Tyler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi? en el mensaje
> > What do you guys think about Python's grouping of code via indentation?
> >
> > Is it good - perhaps because it saves space and elimina
Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted:
> I, Tim Tyler wrote:
> > What do you guys think about Python's grouping of code via indentation?
>
> This is a Python newsgroup. Assume that we all have been brainwashed.
;-)
I had a good look for comp.lang.python.
What do you guys think about Python's grouping of code via indentation?
Is it good - perhaps because it saves space and eliminates keypresses?
Or is it bad - perhaps because it makes program flow dependent on
invisible, and unpronouncable characters - and results in more
manual alignment issues
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