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Russell, this is excellent work I am truly amazed that within a couple of
hours I had Python built and running for the iOS simulator this is a feat I
didn't think was possible. Perspective on me I am very familiar with Linux, C,
and Python but know very
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Retested this patch with the latest 3.4 and made one tiny change to get it to
apply cleanly. Please provide feedback or commit. I would like to get this
committed after more than a year since the original bug report.
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I forgot to mention this patch only works on 3.4 but if it is committed I will
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Ezio,
I think modern editors are expected to have this sort of functionality built
into them [1]. XCode is simply amazing where it will pop up errors and quote
the C99 standard [2]. We don't expect IDLE to have all that functionality but
it seemed to us
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Would you prefer PyFlakes instead? Try to consider IDLE being for beginners
so they need all the help they can get. Advanced users can always turn the
extension off. Thanks for your input.
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Ned,
Thanks for such a thorough comment this saved me lots of time now I don't
have to dig so deeply into the problem.
After spending some time trying to understand how this all works or doesn't
across the various Tk's, I am coming to the conclusion that we
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This patch LGTM as well. I think it should be committed ASAP because the
button clearly doesn't work as it is programmed now.
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covers point 1.1) Pressing the Home key moves the cursor before the
prompt, which then makes the keyboard unresponsive.
This issues was fixed on Windows XP and Linux here
http://bugs.python.org/issue3851
On Mac OS X the home key is control-A or function
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1.1) Pressing the Home key moves the cursor before the prompt, which then
makes the keyboard unresponsive.
This issue is still broken on Mac OS X.
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Terry,
I was suffering from the classic chicken and egg problem so I was not sure
if the test case in http://bugs.python.org/issue18226 should include the small
code change. I will work with Phil Webster to get this small change added to
issue 18226 along
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As a suggestion I always use the command make patchcheck (before making the
patch) which catches the white space and tab problem plus it fixes other
things. Here is more information on patch check in the developer's guide.
http://docs.python.org/devguide
New submission from Todd Rovito:
While working on a test case for Format Paragraph
(http://bugs.python.org/issue18226) I noted that format paragraph doesn't work
with comment blocks when a comment block is selected. The fix is very simple
by changing one line:
if first and last:
data
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Terry,
Bottom line I can't seem to get this patch to do anything for me. Before
the patch is applied IDLE seems to be handling warnings and exceptions just
fine in PyShell on the Mac. I get no crash and the output matches the normal
console. Here
Todd Rovito added the comment:
Here is a uncompleted patch but works for the most part. I thought I would
post just in case somebody wanted to provide me comments on the general
direction of the patch. The naming might have to change but this follows Terry
Reedy's model of monkey patching
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Terry I am sorry the push didn't go smooth. I thought I had checked the patch
with 2.7 and 3.4 and it applied for me but maybe I missed something? For sure
I didn't check 3.3 but from here on out I will. Awhile ago I worked on a issue
to synchronize
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Terry,
Thank you for the feedback this helps me alot! I will work with Phil
Webster and will use his Text Widget and EditorWindow classes. Hopefully this
will help us converge on a strong unit test for FormatParagraph.py. Thanks for
the reminder about
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PING
It has been a month since Roger's last comment on the patch looking good, can
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Yes I have a Mac and I am glad to help, so I gave it a test run tonight. The
first thing I did was apply the patch then I ran idle from the console like so:
./python.exe Lib/idlelib/idle.py
For testing I used a simple print command to print to stderr
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Continuing the IDLE unittest framework initiated in
http://bugs.python.org/issue15392.
A small unit test for IDLE FormatParagraph.py. This patch introduces a test
module named test_format_paragraph.py inside Lib/idlelib/idle_test, considering
the guidance
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Roger's patch works but the documentation has changed since he made the patch
back in 2011. So I patched the patch and hope this very simple patch will get
committed. I will work on a patch for 2.7 next.
Today I was teaching a student on how to use Python
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Same patch but for Python 2.7.5. I just updated the documentation from Roger's
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Ping!!!
I have not heard anything about this patch so I wanted to ping it to get more
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I was wondering does it make sense to commit this patch since it is similar to
http://bugs.python.org/issue14146 then put the issue in the pending state as we
wait for the TK/TCL fix? It seems more consistent to me since this issue is
basically the same
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I haver verified Roger's patch does indeed fix the problem on Linux CentOS 6.4
with IDLE 3.4.
The Linux situation is complex. Basically as I see it over the years pure X11
applications are becoming extinct and most developers either use GTK (for
GNOME) or QT
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Patch does indeed apply and I get good results! The patch is well done and
provides a nice example on how to write unit tests.
+1 for making the commit from me
R. David Murray you used the patch command while I used hg import --no-commit
mywork.patch
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What is standard in other linex and mac apps?
-On Mac OS X 10.8.3 TextEdit I get the replacement behavior
-On Linux CentOS 6.4 gedit I get the replacement behavior
-On IDLE under the latest 3.4 pull I get the replacement behavior with Max OS X
10.8.3
-On IDLE
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I still have the same problem with the patch it will not apply for me on Python
3.4. Based on Ezio's suggestion I used hg verify where I got three warnings
unrelated to IDLE, but just to make sure I did a brand new checkout. Even
after a new checkout the patch
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Terry I think you have a typo you mean PEP434
(http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0434/) where PEP343 exists. Can you please
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Terry,
On my Mac with hg revert -a and hg pull -u the patch fails to apply on
CallTips.py and PathBrowser.py under the latest version of Python 3.4. Here is
the output when I try to apply the patch:
rovitotv-pc:py34 rovitotv$ hg import --no-commit
/Volumes
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Roger,
If you and Terry tested I would apply now so it makes it into 2.7.5. Why
not? Right now the debugger in Windows doesn't highlight and I am sure that
has to drive people crazy. But if you feel it needs more testing maybe you
should let it bake some
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This issue appears like it is making progress. For a very small contribution I
tested JayKrish's patch and it seems to work on my Mac. The results are
documented below. Any comment from Python Core Developers on what needs to
happen to get it committed
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Here is a simple patch that simply explains negative indexes and negative
slices are not supported for the string format documentation. Perhaps more
documentation needs to be created else where to help explain why all
collections do not need to support negative
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I tested the patch on OS X 10.8 and it works perfect!!!
Thanks Guilherme.
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Very strange but I noticed the right click menu is not working on Mac OS X.
Before and after Roger's latest backwards_compat.patch. I must be losing my
mind but I thought this was working on OS X. The right click activation I am
trying is control-click and I
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No problem I will open a separate issue. Hopefully it is a mistake on my end
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IDLE's new right click menu doesn't seem to be working on Mac OS X. I am
running OS X 10.8.3 with TK version 8.5.9 (which I think is what OS X 10.8.3
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The IDLE about dialog does not report the full version of TK. For instance it
will report 8.5 and not report the last minor version number such as 8.5.9.
On the Mac OS X this is problematic (but it could be a problem on other
platforms) because Apple ships
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Attached is a patch the works for both Python 3.4 and Python 2.7. I have
tested this patch on OS X and Windows. The code actually came from
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I am in support of letting the find dialog remain open, and possibly
relabeling the button to say find next instead.
+1 from me, it drives me nuts to have the dialog close every time a single
world is found. I like the find dialog box open then I just escape
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I posted this message on tinter discuss email list:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tkinter-discuss/2013-March/003415.html
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Thanks for the feedback I am good with closing but want to check with Roger
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Roger,
Yes I will add another issue covering the enhancement.
Ned,
Thanks for the review. I forgot to mention it but I too tested on the Mac
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Based on enhancements from this issue:
http://bugs.python.org/issue6698
Comments from Tal Einat
The editor-on-startup config option should be removed. Running IDLE without
arguments should open a shell. If IDLE is asked to open any files for editing
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Ned,
Using a web browser is a great idea I like it because it removes code
from IDLE making IDLE even simpler (and better). Besides it would take us
forever to duplicate some of the functionally that exists in today's modern web
browser.
Zach
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Raymond,
Is then when you simply startup IDLE or are you opening a Python file to
edit? The only reason why I ask about editing a file is because ColorDelegator
is used to by the EditorWindow to perform the syntax hi-lighting (I think). I
have a few Macs so
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Sorry about using the wrong word, I should of used HowTo not FAQ. I really
meant to suggest replacing guide with the word HowTo. A HowTo would be
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Roger,
I tested the patch and it does seem to function as you describe so feel free
to apply the patch. The tabify function makes me scratch my head a little,
according to help.txt:
Tabify Region -- Turns *leading* stretches of spaces into tabs
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Yes I missed the link sorry. Can you add the rst file to Doc/faq in the tip of
the repository then do a hg diff and post the patch as an attachment to this
issue? At that point I will review and send any changes or edits with the
review system. Others can
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Roger,
You are a genius! The example program duplicates the bug exactly. It
works on Mac (I assume Linux but I will test on Linux) and it does not work on
correctly on Windows. On Windows as soon as the text widget looses focus then
the hi-light
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Bug report has been filed with Tk here:
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Ezio,
I left a few comments on rietveld. This is a really nice start to a great
FAQ. Thanks for your contribution I think Python needs a nice FAQ on IDLE.
You might want to add some detail about the right click menu which allows a
user to cut, copy, paste
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Roger,
I reviewed and tested the patch, it does seem to fix the bug. Now when the
on startup configure option is selected IDLE will behave as expected. I think
this makes sense to fix the bug even though it is not documented we can infer
the behavior based
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I added roger.serwy to the nosy list. Terry Reedy is already on the list. I
think this issue will help maintain the IDLE documentation now and in the
future. Right now it has to manually be synced between help.txt and idle.rst.
Only Python 3.4 is synced right
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Here is a backtrace from PDB:
- self.sync_source_line()
/Volumes/SecurePython3/cpython/py34/Lib/idlelib/Debugger.py(211)sync_source_line()
- self.flist.gotofileline(filename, lineno)
/Volumes/SecurePython3/cpython/py34/Lib/idlelib/FileList.py(46)gotofileline
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I created a small test program trying to reproduce the problem on Windows 7,
Python 3.4, and TK 8.6. Unfortunately it works fine and each line is
highlighted as a user presses ctrl-B. I got the select code straight from
IDLE. Any other ideas Roger
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I think it is a great idea.
The Python documentation is written with restructured text. See the Python
Developer's Guide here:
http://docs.python.org/devguide/documenting.html
Restructured text is not difficult please let me know if you need help I would
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I tried both TCL/TK 8.5.13 and TCL/TK 8.6 with the latest Python 3.4 on Windows
7 the editor window never showed a line as I stepped through the debugger. I
am going to try in Mac/Linux to make sure I am not crazy that a line in the
editor window does indicate
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Before I forget here are the general steps I followed to get TCL/TK 8.5.13 and
8.6 to work. For TCL/TK 8.6 I had to change the actual Visual Studio 2010
project.
Generally you have to follow the steps in readme.txt located in PCBuild of the
source tree
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the current line in the editor window. Next I will try and find/file a bug
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I got the extension from Roger Serwy's IDLEX, it is one of my favorite
extensions. In addition to adding the extension I updated the documentation
both idle.rst and help.txt. Finally I tested the patch on Mac OS X and it
works great. This patch is for 3.4
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For this patch to work correctly the option menu must be present so issue 17532
http://bugs.python.org/issue17532 has to be resolved.
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The NCSA license is very permissive I would be surprised if the PSF didn't
accept it since both are BSD based. Needless to say I am not a lawyer and I am
not sure who to speak with about this issue.
I was able to find some precedence with the PEP 3146 which
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No problem Roger. I have attached a new patch for documentation updates to
both the IDLE help.txt file and idle.rst for the Terminal extension. Would it
be helpful if I did a diff on the idleX Terminal.py with your original patch?
In addition to doing
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