On 6/21/23 09:47, Dan Kolis wrote:
I've write a huge biotech program ( an IDE for synthetic biology ), and am
slowly outgrowing TKINTER.
Has anybody out there merged a little bit of TCL direct calls from Python 3.X
to get more freedom then TKINTER for just some Windows ?
I wish it looked better, but its 'ok'. I believe X11 IO is considerably superior for
serious work the HTML. I mean 'serious' work. with lots of multi media windows. I am not
talking about fb "Oh ! There is a window it opened inthe corner !"... trivial
functionality.
I don't know if it would help, but you can extend/add tcl/tk packages
I don't remember the full instructions right off, but quickly reverse
engineering my old stuff I think you just need to drop them in
/usr/share/tcltk/ or equivalent.
(I needed to do that to replace the terrible looking default file dialog
for unix/linux with fsdialog.)
then running something like the following from your Tk object
self.eval('package require fsdialog')
(reverse engineering the python tkinter source you can likely find other
ways of doing more tcl direct stuff)
I have not researched if there are some better, more featured
(non-buggy) Text widgets implemented in tcl that can be dropped in, (I
know several of the tcl drop in widgets I tried were lacking in refinement).
From what I can tell, once upon a time there were better, more
interesting projects and tutorials on extending tkinter, such as WCK
(tkinter3000), but the only remnants of those remain publicly available
are outdated unmaintained archives.
You might also consider looking at the Grail browser source for research
purposes, as it does some interesting things with some of the widgets,
(parsing html and such), even though it is 20 years old now (and written
in python 1).
The update attempts from 10+ years ago have disappeared. (it's license
is considered questionable from what I understand, so not sure if that
is an aspect of it, the other being one of it's main features, python
applets, is unsafe and was not easily fixable)
You might already be beyond some of these things though.
I know what you mean as far is feeling like the little bit extra you
need pushes beyond what tkinter can do / makes you feel like you have
outgrown the module.
(I had to take a break from one of my projects and send it to
development hell until my UI knowledge/skills improve after I found
myself considering using xml schema appinfo annotations to store json
formatted widget specific information, lol.)
I have felt that sense of lack with most of the UI modules I have tried
though.
I don't know of a clear better python-only solution though that fits my
personal needs.
So I have to lean toward improving my tcl / C in hopes that it might
help steer me toward that extra (which seems to be in the spirit of what
tcl/tk's intent is to begin with). That will be a while for me though if
I get there.
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