will also got a discount.
For further information, documentation and some examples etc read more
at http://openopt.org/StochasticProgramming
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hi all,
are there any information about upcoming availability of parallel
computations in CPython without modules like multiprocessing? I mean
something like parallel for loops, or, at least, something without
forking with copying huge amounts of RAM each time and possibility to
involve
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new OpenOpt release 0.39 (quarterly since
2007).
OpenOpt is free, even for commercial purposes, cross-platform software
for mahematical modeling and (mainstream) optimization. Our website
have reached 259 visitors daily, that is same to tomopt.com and ~ 1/3
of
I have spent some time searching for a bug in my code, it was due to
different work of is with () and []:
() is ()
True
[] is []
False
(Python 2.7.2+ (default, Oct 4 2011, 20:03:08)
[GCC 4.6.1] )
Is this what it should be or maybe yielding unified result is better?
D.
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can I somehow overload operators like =, - or something like
that? (I'm searching for appropriate overload for logical implication
if a then b)
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Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release 0.38 (2012-March-15):
OpenOpt:
interalg can handle discrete variables
interalg can handle multiobjective problems (MOP)
interalg can handle problems with parameters fixedVars/freeVars
Many interalg improvements and some bugfixes
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release 0.38 (2012-March-15):
OpenOpt:
interalg can handle discrete variables
interalg can handle multiobjective problems (MOP)
interalg can handle problems with parameters fixedVars/freeVars
Many interalg improvements and some bugfixes
hi all,
could you consider adding __sum__ method, e.g. Python sum(a) checks
does a have attribute __sum__ and if it has, then a.__sum__() is
invoked instead of Python sum(a).
(for my soft FuncDesigner it would be very essential, I guess for many
other soft as well, e.g. for PuLP, who has to use
hi all,
how to get id(func) for each func in stack? (I mean memory address, to
compare it with id(some known funcs))
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM, dmitrey dmitre...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
how to get id(func) for each func in stack? (I mean memory address, to
compare it with id(some known funcs))
Thank you in advance, D.
The answer hasn't
On Dec 30, 11:48 pm, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM, dmitrey dmitre...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you. And what should I do to get function by itself instead of
its string name, e.g. I want to know does this function is my_func or
any other? For example
On Dec 30, 8:35 pm, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
On 12/30/11 11:51, dmitrey wrote:
how to get string name of a function that is n levels above
the current Python interpreter position?
Use the results of traceback.extract_stack()
from traceback import extract_stack
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release 0.37 (2011-Dec-15) of our
free software:
OpenOpt (numerical optimization):
IPOPT initialization time gap (time till first iteration) for
FuncDesigner models has been decreased
Some improvements and bugfixes for interalg, especially for
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release 0.37 (2011-Dec-15) of our
free software:
OpenOpt (numerical optimization):
IPOPT initialization time gap (time till first iteration) for
FuncDesigner models has been decreased
Some improvements and bugfixes for interalg, especially for
hi all,
suppose I have a func F, list [args1,args2,args3,...,argsN] and want
to obtain r_i = F(args_i) in parallel mode. My difficulty is: if F
returns not None, than I should break calculations, and I can't dig in
multiprocessing module documentation how to do it. Order doesn't
matter for me (I
. Maybe other (alternative) engines will be available
in future.
See its webpage for details:
http://openopt.org/MultiFactorAnalysis
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in future.
See its webpage for details:
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Hi all,
new release of our free scientific soft (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner,
DerApproximator,
SpaceFuncs) v. 0.36 is out:
OpenOpt:
Now solver interalg can handle all types of constraints and
integration problems
Some minor improvements and code cleanup
FuncDesigner:
Interval analysis
Hi all,
new release of our free scientific soft (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner,
DerApproximator,
SpaceFuncs) v. 0.36 is out:
OpenOpt:
Now solver interalg can handle all types of constraints and
integration problems
Some minor improvements and code cleanup
FuncDesigner:
Interval analysis
hi all,
I feel lack of native Python lists operations (e.g. taking N greatest
elements with the involved key function and O(n) speed) and
occasionally found blist
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/blist/
Its entry says it is better than Python list. Did anyone ensure?
Will it ever be merged into Python
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new quarterly release 0.34 of the free
(even for commercial purposes, license: BSD) cross-platform OOSuite
package software (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner, SpaceFuncs,
DerApproximator),
Main changes:
* Python 3 compatibility
* Lots of improvements and speedup for
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new quarterly release 0.34 of the OOSuite
package software (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner, SpaceFuncs,
DerApproximator) .
Main changes:
* Python 3 compatibility
* Lots of improvements and speedup for interval calculations
* Now interalg can obtain all solutions of
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new quarterly release 0.34 of the free
(even for commercial purposes, license: BSD) cross-platform OOSuite
package software (OpenOpt, FuncDesigner, SpaceFuncs,
DerApproximator),
Main changes:
* Python 3 compatibility
* Lots of improvements and speedup for
hi all,
I try to port my code to Python 3 and somehow files don't see files
from same directory, so I have to add those directories explicitly,
e.g.
import sys
sys.path += [...]
Also, it leads to bugs like this one:
On May 7, 11:53 am, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
Chris Rebert wrote:
This is because you did `from Point import
...` in file2.py, whereas in file1.py you did `from
openopt.kernel.Point import ...`. These 2 different ways of referring
to the same module are sufficient
hi all,
suppose I've created a class Point in file .../openopt/kernel/Point.py
Consider the code in file .../somewhere/file1.py
from openopt.kernel.Point import Point
p = Point()
now let's pass p into a func from .../openopt/kernel/file2.py and
check
from Point import Point
isinstance(p, Point)
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hi all,
suppose I've created a class Point in file .../openopt/kernel/Point.py
Consider the code in file .../somewhere/file1.py
from openopt.kernel.Point import
hi all,
suppose I have Python dict myDict and I know it's not empty.
I have to get any (key, value) pair from the dict (no matter which
one) and perform some operation.
In Python 2 I used mere
key, val = myDict.items()[0]
but in Python 3 myDict.items() return iterator.
Of course, I could use
for
On May 6, 10:51 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:40 PM, dmitrey dmitre...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
suppose I have Python dict myDict and I know it's not empty.
I have to get any (key, value) pair from the dict (no matter which
one) and perform some
of geometric equations and
numerical optimization with automatic differentiation):
* Some bugfixes
DerApproximator:
* Adjusted with some changes in FuncDesigner
For more details visit our site http://openopt.org.
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of geometric equations and
numerical optimization with automatic differentiation):
* Some bugfixes
DerApproximator:
* Adjusted with some changes in FuncDesigner
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hi all,
I have th PEP (I'm not sure something like that hadn't been proposed
although):
very often in a Python file header the following lines are present,
like:
from MyModule1 import myFunc1
import MyModule2 as mm2
from MyModule3 import myFunc3 as mf3
etc
and after several pages of code they are
Yes, I know, still usually it is placed in file header
On Jan 6, 5:57 pm, Tim Harig user...@ilthio.net wrote:
Python doesn't require imports to be at the top of a file. They can be
imported at any time.
import MyModule
(...lots of code...)
r = MyModule.myFunc(...)
(...lots of code...)
On Jan 6, 8:43 pm, Erwin Mueller dev...@deventm.org wrote:
Why you have several pages of code in the first place? Don't you know that you
can split your code in files? Just a suggestion.
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Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new quarterly OpenOpt/FuncDesigner
release (0.32):
OpenOpt:
* New class: LCP (and related solver)
* New QP solver: qlcp
* New NLP solver: sqlcp
* New large-scale NSP (nonsmooth) solver gsubg. Currently it still
requires lots of improvements (especially for
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new quarterly OpenOpt/FuncDesigner
release (0.32):
OpenOpt:
* New class: LCP (and related solver)
* New QP solver: qlcp
* New NLP solver: sqlcp
* New large-scale NSP (nonsmooth) solver gsubg. Currently it still
requires lots of improvements (especially for
hi all,
I have the following problem:
I have overloaded max function in my module (FuncDesigner); it works
like following:
if some data in arguments is of type oofun then my function works,
elseware numpy.max() is used.
Now the problem:
suppose someone writes
from FuncDesigner import *
...
a =
Well, I think I have found an appropriate solution.
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0.21 (finite-differences derivatives approximation).
For release details see
http://forum.openopt.org/viewtopic.php?id=299
or visit our homepage
http://openopt.org
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0.21 (finite-differences derivatives approximation).
For release details see
http://forum.openopt.org/viewtopic.php?id=299
or visit our homepage
http://openopt.org
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On Aug 9, 1:38 pm, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote:
dmitrey wrote:
hi all,
suppose I have defined a child class of Python dict, currently it
constructor looks like that:
def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
dict.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
#(+some more
hi all,
I have a class (FuncDesigner oofun) that has no attribute size, but
it is overloaded in __getattr__, so if someone invokes
myObject.size, it is generated (as another oofun) and connected to
myObject as attribute.
So, when I invoke in other code part hasattr(myObject, 'size'),
instead o
On Jul 20, 1:37 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:10 AM, dmitrey dmitrey.kros...@scipy.org wrote:
hi all,
I have a class (FuncDesigner oofun) that has no attribute size, but
it is overloaded in __getattr__, so if someone invokes
myObject.size
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wrote:
dmitrey wrote:
hi all,
I have a class (FuncDesigner oofun) that has no attribute size, but
it is overloaded in __getattr__, so if someone invokes
myObject.size, it is generated (as another oofun) and connected
e.g. one that just looks in the object's dictionary so as to avoid returning
true for properties or other such fancy attributes.
So can anyone explain me how to look into object's dict? As I have
wrote, something in dir(...) requires O(numOfFields) while I would
like to use o(log(n))
How
On 20 июл, 18:39, Neil Cerutti ne...@norwich.edu wrote:
On 2010-07-20, dmitrey dmitrey.kros...@scipy.org wrote:
This doesn't stack with the following issue: sometimes user can
write in code myObject.size = (some integer value) and then
it will be involved in future calculations as ordinary
://forum.openopt.org/viewtopic.php?id=252
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Python 2.6.5 r265:79063
set().update(set()) is None
True
while I expect result of update to be set.
Also, result of
set().add(None)
is None while I expect it to be set with element None (or, maybe, it
should be empty set?)
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Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release of our free (BSD-licensed)
soft OpenOpt 0.28 (numerical optimization), FuncDesigner 0.18 (CAS
with automatic differentiation), DerApproximator 0.18 (finite-
differeces derivatives approximation).
More details here:
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about new release of our free (BSD-licensed)
soft OpenOpt 0.28 (numerical optimization), FuncDesigner 0.18 (CAS
with automatic differentiation), DerApproximator 0.18 (finite-
differeces derivatives approximation).
More details here:
hi all,
what's the simplest way to create a webpage with a frame for Python
code to be typed in (as a plain text, or, better, as a highlighted
text or something like scite or any other easy python IDE, capable of
automatic indentations), and then pressing a button to evaluate it
using a remote
, Diez B. Roggisch de...@nospam.web.de wrote:
Am 15.01.10 15:16, schrieb dmitrey:
hi all,
what's the simplest way to create a webpage with a frame for Python
code to be typed in (as a plain text, or, better, as a highlighted
text or something like scite or any other easy python IDE, capable
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about release of OpenOpt 0.27 (numerical
optimization framework), FuncDesigner 0.17 (CAS with automatic
differentiation, convenient modelling of linear/nonlinear functions,
can use convenient modelling for some OpenOpt optimization problems
and systems of
Hi all,
I'm glad to inform you about release of OpenOpt 0.27 (numerical
optimization framework), FuncDesigner 0.17 (CAS with automatic
differentiation, convenient modelling of linear/nonlinear functions,
can use convenient modelling for some OpenOpt optimization problems
and systems of
hi all,
I have created a class MyClass and defined methods like __add__,
__mul__, __pow__, __radd__, __rmul__ etc.
Also, they are defined to work with numbers, Python lists and
numpy.arrays.
Both Python lists and numpy arrays have their own methods __add__,
__mul__, __pow__, __radd__, __rmul__
Hi all,
I would like to introduce a couple examples of easy convenient
modelling and solving System of Linear Equation (SLE) by FuncDesigner
(a python-written tool, BSD license). It doesn't require to construct
matrices A and b (Ax = b) by user, they are created automatically. See
here for
OpenOpt is cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Mac OS etc) Python-written
framework. If you have a model written in FuncDesigner (http://
openopt.org/FuncDesigner), you can get 1st derivatives via automatic
differentiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Automatic_differentiation) (some examples here:
FuncDesigner is cross-platform (Windows, Linux, Mac OS etc) Python-
written framework with automatic differentiation (http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_differentiation). License BSD allows
to use it in both open- and closed-code soft. It has been extracted
from OpenOpt framework as a
hi all,
could you inform how to compose a py-file (for soft installation),
that will visit 3 subdirectories (eg subdir1, subdir2, subdir3) and
invoke a command python setup.py install in each subdirectory?
I know there should be a simple solution available in Python
documentation, but I have an
Thanks all, especially Dennis for your detailed answer.
left_arr_indexes is list of nonnegative integers, eg [0,0,0,1,1,4]
IndDict is a dict like {0: [1,2], 3: [0,1], 10:[0,2,3]}, so that's why
I don't use python list instead.
The code is taken from OpenOpt framework that I develop. Currently I
Hi all,
could you inform me how to do it properly?
I have the cycle
for i in xrange(len(Funcs2)): # Funcs2 is Python dict
Funcs.append(lambda *args, **kwargs: (Funcs2[i](*args, **kwargs)
[IndDict[left_arr_indexes[i]]]))
So, all the Funcs are initialized with i = last index = len(Funcs2)
Yes, thank you, items() is the correct approach, on the other hand I
have already get rid of the cycle.
Regards, D.
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wrote:
Hi Dmitrey,
I think what you're looking for is myDict.items(), or myDict.iteritems().
Cheers,
Rami
On Tue
hi all,
is it possible to overload operator ^? (AFAIK __pow__ overloads **
instead of ^)
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the operator precedence will seem wrong
So, are there any ways to change operator precedence (for my class)?
To Diez:
yes, but I haven't paid attention to xor. BTW the url is currently
unavailable (Network Timeout. The server at docs.python.org is taking
too long to respond.).
On Aug 8, 12:06
hi all,
is it possible to overload operator ? (And other like this one,
eg = =, , = =)
Any URL/example?
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Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.24, a free Python-written numerical optimization framework
with some own solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has
been released.
BSD license allows to use it in both free opensource and commercial
closed-code software.
Currently we have ~80 unique visitors daily,
Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.24, a free Python-written numerical optimization framework
with some own solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has
been released.
BSD license allows to use it in both free opensource and commercial
closed-code software.
Currently we have ~80 unique visitors daily,
hi all,
what is easiest way to check python version (to obtain values like
2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 3.0 etc) from Python env?
I don't mean python -V from command prompt.
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Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.23, a free Python-written numerical optimization framework
(license: BSD) with some own
solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has been released.
Our new homepage:
http://openopt.org
Introduction to the framework:
http://openopt.org/Foreword
All release details are
Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.23, a free numerical optimization framework (license: BSD)
with some own
solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has been released.
Our new homepage:
http://openopt.org
Introduction to the framework:
http://openopt.org/Foreword
All release details are here:
# THIS WORKS OK
from multiprocessing import Pool
N = 400
K = 800
processes = 2
def costlyFunction2(z):
r = 0
for k in xrange(1, K+2):
r += z ** (1 / k**1.5)
return r
class ABC:
def __init__(self): pass
def testParallel(self):
po = Pool(processes=processes)
://openopt.org
I intend to take you opinions into account till next OpenOpt release
0.23 (2009-03-15)
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Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.21, free Python-written optimization framework (license:
BSD) with some own
solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has been released.
All details here:
http://openopt.blogspot.com/2008/12/openopt-release-021.html
Let us also invite you into new forum about
Hi all,
OpenOpt 0.21, free optimization framework (license: BSD) with some own
solvers and connections to tens of 3rd party ones, has been released.
All details here:
http://openopt.blogspot.com/2008/12/openopt-release-021.html
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hi all,
could anyone post an example how to redirect text output (stdout) to
Text widget?
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On Oct 3, 9:46 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers
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dmitrey a écrit :
hi all,
I have a code
z = MyClass(some_args)
can I somehow get info in MyClass __init__ function that user uses z
as name of the variable?
I.e. to have __init__ function that creates field z.name
hi all,
I have a code
z = MyClass(some_args)
can I somehow get info in MyClass __init__ function that user uses z
as name of the variable?
I.e. to have __init__ function that creates field z.name with value
z.
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Hi all,
how to keep a Tkinter window above all other OS windows (i.e.
including those ones from other programs)?
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On Sep 23, 11:21 pm, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
how to keep a Tkinter window above all other OS windows (i.e.
including those ones from other programs)?
Thank you in advance,
Dmitrey
I have put [Tkinter] into topic of my message but somehow it has been
removed.
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hi all,
Is there a better way to kill threading.Thread (running) instance than
this one
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/496960
(it's all I have found via google).
BTW, it should be noticed that lots of threading module methods have
no docstrings (in my Python 2.5), for
I wonder why something like myThread.exit() or myThread.quit() or
threading.kill(myThread) can't be implemented?
Is something like that present in Python 3000?
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how to do easy_install some package to source code, not egg?
(I don't mean develop option, it shouldn't call compiled egg-file).
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Reading http://scipy.org/scipy/scikits/wiki/OpenOpt
No local packages or download links found for openopt
error: Could not find suitable distribution for
Requirement.parse('openopt')
Does anyone know what shoul I do?
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Hello,
We're pleased to announce:
OpenOpt v 0.19, free (license: BSD) optimization framework
(written in Python language) with connections to lots of solvers (some
are C- or Fortran-written) is released.
Changes since previous release 0.18 (June 15, 2008):
* Some changes for NLP/NSP solver
hi all,
howto check is function capable of obtaining **kwargs?
i.e. I have some funcs like
def myfunc(a,b,c,...):...
some like
def myfunc(a,b,c,...,*args):...
some like
def myfunc(a,b,c,...,*args, **kwargs):...
some like
def myfunc(a,b,c,...,zz=zz0):...
So I need to know is the given function
also, you could look at the simple openopt example provided by GA
galileo solver (connected to OO framework)
http://projects.scipy.org/scipy/scikits/browser/trunk/openopt/scikits/openopt/examples/glp_1.py
http://scipy.org/scipy/scikits/wiki/GLP
Regards, D
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We're pleased to announce:
OpenOpt 0.18 (release), free (license: BSD) optimization framework
(written in Python language) with connections to lots of solvers (some
are C- or Fortran-written) is available for download.
Changes since previous release 0.17 (March 15, 2008):
*
Greetings,
We're pleased to announce:
OpenOpt 0.18 (release), free (license: BSD) optimization framework
(written in Python language) with connections to lots of solvers (some
are C- or Fortran-written) is available for download.
Changes since previous release 0.17 (March 15, 2008):
*
hi all,
what's the best way to write Python dictionary to a file?
(and then read)
There could be unicode field names and values encountered.
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hi all,
howto split string with both comma and semicolon delimiters?
i.e. (for example) get ['a','b','c'] from string a,b;c
I have tried s.split(',;') but it don't work
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Hi all,
I have Eric 4.1.1, pylint and Eric pylint plugin installed, but I
cannot find how to use pylint from Eric IDE GUI.
Does anyone know?
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Along with numpy scipy there is some more Python scientific soft
worse to be mentioned:
http://scipy.org/Topical_Software
http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browseshow=allc=385
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once I
looked for linear programming toolkits
Since I have no project (and willing to create the one), just several
py-files, the Project-Check button is disabled.
Are there any other methods in v4.1.1 or more recent?
Thx, D.
On 18 Тра, 16:48, Detlev Offenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dmitrey wrote:
Hi all,
I have Eric 4.1.1, pylint
hi all,
suppose I have 2 lists
list1 = ['elem0', 'elem1', 'elem2', 'elem3', 'elem4', 'elem5']
and
list2 = [0, 2, 4] # integer elements
howto (I mean most simple recipe, of course) form list3 that contains
elements from list1 with indexes from list2, i.e.
list3 = ['elem0', 'elem2', 'elem4']?
in addition to killall and kill funcs mentioned above you could be
interested in pkill
see man pkill from terminal for more details
pkill python
or
pkill pyt
or
pkill desired_signal py
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Ok, I use Python 2.5 but I try my code to remain Python 2.4 and
(preferable) 2.3 compatible.
Are there other solutions?
D.
On 9 Тра, 13:17, Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 9, 11:04 am, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
list1 = ['elem0', 'elem1', 'elem2', 'elem3', 'elem4', 'elem5
Hmm... I thought this issue is available from Python2.5 only. I have
no other interpreters in my recently installed KUBUNTU 8.04.
Thanks all,
D.
On 9 Тра, 13:41, Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9 ôÒÁ, 13:17, Paul Hankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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