UML for Python or some other Graphical Notation Language

2009-08-11 Thread llothar
This is more an academic question right now but was there ever some work in progress how UML could be made better for Python or script languages in general. It is so extremely deep interwoven with Java/C++ language implementations that there are a lot of modified notiations necessary. Or is

Re: When does a binary extension gets the file extension '.pyd' and when is it '.so'

2008-04-05 Thread llothar
On 5 Apr., 15:48, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: llothar wrote: My question was: Why does setup.py generated sometimes a pyd and sometimes a so file? setup.py picks an extension that happens to work on the platform you're running setup.py on. doing otherwise would be pretty

Re: When does a binary extension gets the file extension '.pyd' and when is it '.so'

2008-04-05 Thread llothar
Right, so you think people aren't trying to help you? I think they are not reading the question. You display your ignorance here. The .pyd extension is used on Windows as an alternative to .dll, but both are recognized as shared libraries. Personally I'm not really sure why they even chose

When does a binary extension gets the file extension '.pyd' and when is it '.so'

2008-04-04 Thread llothar
On windows everything is '.pyd' but there seems to be two ways to get this on unix? Why and what is the rule? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: When does a binary extension gets the file extension '.pyd' and when is it '.so'

2008-04-04 Thread llothar
Thanks, my question was not how can i make python to it find. I don't have a problem. My question was: Why does setup.py generated sometimes a pyd and sometimes a so file? There must be a rule behind this. Unforunately setup.py is not well documented. Here i mean i need a specification not a

Problems building a binary extension

2008-04-02 Thread llothar
I works well on Linux. But on FreeBSD when i use ../bin/python setup.py build_ext --inplace to select my own build python interpreter it is not using the correct library paths and therefore complains that it can't find the - lpython2.5 library. Using python-config i also don't see that the lib

Python 2.5 - Build Error on Windows because of SQLite3

2008-03-28 Thread llothar
Why does Python2.5 do not include the amalgamation source code of sqlite3? At the moment it is not possible to build the system out of the box with the Visual Studio project. I don't think this is good. The amalgamation version is exactly for this purpose. Is there a 2.5.3 release on the way? --

Re: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love

2007-10-21 Thread llothar
I'm, not sure that I'm getting your point, but are you trying to argue that _not_ knowing mathemathics makes you a better programmer? No but it doesn't help you very much either. They are just different skills. Or maybe that learning math is useless to a programmer? No and at least the

Re: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love

2007-10-21 Thread llothar
On 21 Okt., 21:39, Arne Vajhøj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That level of activity could be considered dead. For me at least 2% of the total line count should be changed to call it non dead. I don't say it it not used anymore for users it might be not dead but this is not the point under

Re: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love

2007-10-21 Thread llothar
Depends obvious a bot on what you consider serious math. Expression evaluation, floating point characteristics, relational database theory, simulation, optimum location, encryption etc. are all based on mathematics of different levels. Thats not i call serious maths. You just need a very

Re: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love

2007-10-20 Thread llothar
I love math. I respect Math. I'm nothing but a menial servant to Mathematics. Programming and use cases are not maths. Many mathematics are the worst programmers i've seen because they want to solve things and much more often you just need heuristics. Once they are into exact world they loose

Re: Questions on FOX GUI and Python

2007-09-04 Thread llothar
On 5 Sep., 02:15, Kenneth McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone care to offer their opinions as to using Python with the FOX GUI toolkit? Ease of use, stability, power, speed, etc., all thoughts would be appreciated. Pure theoretical question, as FXPy is not supported anymore, but i

Will Python 3.0 remove the global interpreter lock (GIL)

2007-09-02 Thread llothar
I'm afraid that the GIL is killing the usefullness of python for some types of applications now where 4,8 oder 64 threads on a chip are here or comming soon. What is the status about that for the future of python? I know that at the moment allmost nobody in the scripting world has solved this

Re: Will Python 3.0 remove the global interpreter lock (GIL)

2007-09-02 Thread llothar
On 3 Sep., 07:38, Eduardo O. Padoan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No.http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=211430 Ops, I meant:http://www.artima.com/forums/threaded.jsp?forum=106thread=211200 Thanks. I whish there would be a project for rewritting the C interpreter to make it better

Re: How to find out if the interpreter is a debug build?

2007-09-01 Thread llothar
On 1 Sep., 10:37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], llothar wrote: How can i find out if a selected python interpreter (i only know the path name under which i should start it) is a debug build? What's the difference

Re: How to find out if the interpreter is a debug build?

2007-09-01 Thread llothar
On 1 Sep., 13:25, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want it cross-platform, you can check whether sys.getobjects is available. That, of course, is also unsafe because there isn't a single debug build on Unix, but instead, several debugging features can be enabled and disabled

Re: status of Programming by Contract (PEP 316)?

2007-09-01 Thread llothar
On 29 Aug., 13:45, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not yet personally used it, but I am interested in anything that can help to make my programs more reliable. If you are programming something that doesn't really need to be correct, than you probably don't need it. But if you really need

Re: How to find out if the interpreter is a debug build?

2007-09-01 Thread llothar
Would you like to contribute a patch? Would such a patch require a full blown PEP? If i have to write a PEP i can better add it to the documentation of my application and be sure that the problem is solved. A patch might be rejected by anybody in a bad mood or who don't understand why it is

How to find out if the interpreter is a debug build?

2007-08-31 Thread llothar
How can i find out if a selected python interpreter (i only know the path name under which i should start it) is a debug build? I tried sys.api_version, sys.platform, sys.version, sys.version_info and there is no difference between python.exe and python_d.exe. I'm pretty sure the information

Is there any pure python webserver that can use FCGI

2006-05-12 Thread llothar
Hello, as the subject says, for an embedded application i need a 100% pure python webserver that can talk to a FCGI process (which runs ruby on rails). Of couse it also must be able to use simple CGI. Please don't ask why i want a python webserver for a ruby application. I just need it. --

Re: Can't compile

2006-01-17 Thread llothar
Here i jump into this thread. With this option the configure script runs well. But then i get a compile error in complexobject. I'm using Solaris in 32-Bit Mode on my AthlonX2. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How is the python path build ?

2005-10-25 Thread llothar
Hello, i must add my own python.exe and a little patched runtime library with my product. How can i setup the python path, so that the directories are not taken from the registry values for Python2.4 but something relative to my own python.exe ? With PYTHONPATH i can only add new items in front

Python Source Code for a HTTP Proxy

2005-09-23 Thread llothar
Hello, i'm looking for a simple http proxy in python. Does anybody know about something like this ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list