On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Gilmeh Serda via Python-list <
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> Solved by using a different method.
>
>
- - - And that was how?
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On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 4:40 PM shannon makasale via Python-list <
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> Hi there,
> My name is Shannon. I installed Python 3.12 on my laptop a couple months
> ago, but realised my school requires me to use 3.11.1.
>
> I uninstalled 3.12 and installed 3.11.1.
>
>
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:47 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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> On 10/26/23 10:41, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > By the way you definitely can step
> > through MicroPython code one line at a time with a remote debugger, say
> > with Visual Studio Code.
>
> I meant to edit that bit out.
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:43 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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> On 10/26/23 06:34, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > Interesting - - - - ". . . see if it runs." - - - that's the issue!
> > When the code is accessing sensors there isn't an easy way to
> > check that the code is working until one
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 3:56 PM Jim Schwartz wrote:
> Does this link help? It seems to have a Linux package here.
>
> Eclipse Packages | The Eclipse Foundation - home to a global community,
> the Eclipse IDE, Jakarta EE and over 350 open source projects...
>
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 11:58 AM Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
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> On 25/10/2023 05.45, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
> > wrote:
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> >> 3. Catch the failure before you commit and push. Unit tests are great for
> >> this.
> >
> >
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:19 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list
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> On 10/25/23 05:51, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote:
> > Looks like I have another area to investigate. (grin!)
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Seems to me you're trying to run before you have learned to
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:10 AM Dieter Maurer wrote:
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> o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 08:29 -0500:
> > ...
> >It would appear that something has changed.
> >
> >Went to the Eclipse download page, downloaded and verified (using sha-512).
> >Expanded software to # opt .
> >There is absolutely NO
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:56 AM Dieter Maurer wrote:
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> o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 07:50 -0500:
> >> There are several others,
> >> e.g. "ECLIPSE" can be used for Python development.
> >
> >Is 'Eclipse' a Windows oriented IDE?
>
> No.
> ==> "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(software)"
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:00 AM Dieter Maurer wrote:
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> o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 06:44 -0500:
> >On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:24?AM Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > ...
> >> There are different kinds of errors.
> >>
> >> Some can be avoided by using an integrated development environment
> >> (e.g.
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:20 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:46, o1bigtenor wrote:
> > > 2. Catch the failure as you save. We have a lot of tools that can help
> > > you to spot bugs.
> >
> > Tools like this for python please.
>
> Various ones. Type
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:24 AM Dieter Maurer wrote:
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> o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-24 07:22 -0500:
> > ...
> >Is there a way to verify that a program is going to do what it is
> >supposed to do even
> >before all the hardware has been assembled and installed and tested?
>
> Others have already
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:25 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:53, o1bigtenor wrote:
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> > Hmm - - - - now how can I combine 'Hamming codes'
> > and a raid array?
> >
> > TIA
>
> Normally you wouldn't. But let's say you're worried that a file might
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:36 PM AVI GROSS via Python-list
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> Agreed, Chris. There are many methods way better than the sort of RAID
> architecture I supplied as AN EXAMPLE easy to understand. But even so, if a
> hard disk or memory chip is fried or a nuclear bomb takes out all servers in
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:43 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
> > Consider an example of bit rot. I mean what if your CPU or hard disk has a
> > location where you can write a byte and read it back multiple times and
A post with useful ideas - - - - thanks (it generates some questions!
interleaved)
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list
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> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:11, Thomas Passin via Python-list
> wrote:
> > This doesn't mean that no program can ever be proven to halt, nor
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:09 PM Thomas Passin via Python-list
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snip
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> By now you have read many responses that basically say that you cannot
> prove that a given program has no errors, even apart from the hardware
> question. Even if it could be done, the kind of specification that you
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 5:28 PM Rob Cliffe wrote:
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> There is no general way to prove that a program is "correct". Or even
> whether it will terminate or loop endlessly.
> These are of course theoretical statements of computer science. But
> they can be rigorously proven. (Sorry if I'm just
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM Grant Edwards via Python-list
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> On 2023-10-24, Dan Purgert via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2023-10-24, o1bigtenor wrote:
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> (Sorry for a nebulous subject but dunno how to have a short title for
> >> a complex question.)
> >> [...]
> >>
Greetings
(Sorry for a nebulous subject but dunno how to have a short title for
a complex question.)
I have been using computers for a long time but am only beginning my
foray into the
galaxy of programming. Have done little to this point besides
collection of information
on sensors and working
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