).
Note, YOUR program must now make sure that the __exit__ function is called, and
handle any exceptions that got thrown, and that ob and var are put somewhere
you can access them at that later time.
> On Nov 27, 2023, at 12:24 PM, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
> wrote:
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> O
ose()
if __name__ == "__main__":
run_scripts()
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where the device is opened in the __init__()
and used in some methods.
Any ideas?
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Have to head out as this is already long enough.
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Avi,
On 11/27/2023 4:15 PM, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Da
On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 22:31, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a situation, maybe someone can give some insight.
>
> Say I want to have input which is comma separated array (e.g.
> paths='path1,path2,path3') and convert it to the desired output - li
ideas appreciated,
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don't let bias cloud your judgement, don't take the ideas of the MD's
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f __init__(self):
self.cm = device_open()
self.device = self.cm.__enter__()
# Other methods here for doing things with
# self.device
def close(self):
self.cm.__exit__(None, None, None)
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On 27/11/23 9:03 am, Stefan Ram wrote:
Above, "have" is followed by another verb in "have been",
so it should be eligible for a contraction there!
Yes, "been" is the past participle of 'to be", so "I've been" is
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On 2023-11-27, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2023-11-26, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote:
>
>> If you do not have this case (e.g. usually if you open the file
>> in a class's `__init__`), you do not use a context manager.
>
> He knows that. The OP wr
On 2023-11-26, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote:
> If you do not have this case (e.g. usually if you open the file
> in a class's `__init__`), you do not use a context manager.
He knows that. The OP wrote that he wants to use that can
_only_ be used by a context manager, but he
components of an object but verify the validity of the contents or do
logging or any number of other things. Using a list or tuple does nothing
else.
So if you need nothing else, they are often suitable and sometimes even
preferable.
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2023 at 13:52, AVI GROSS via Python-list
wrote:
> Be that as it
> may, and I have no interest in this topic, in the future I may use the ever
> popular names of Primus, Secundus and Tertius and get blamed for using
> Latin.
>
Imperious Prima flashes forth her
from the Latin word for news. Be that as it
may, and I have no interest in this topic, in the future I may use the ever
popular names of Primus, Secundus and Tertius and get blamed for using
Latin.
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Sent: Sunday, Novembe
On 11/27/2023 10:04 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-25 08:32:24 -0600, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list wrote:
On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, for serious work, some might suggest avoiding constructs like a
list of lists and switch to using
On 11/27/2023 1:08 AM, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
I prefer namedtuples or dataclasses over tuples. They allow you to refer
to their fields by name instead of index: student.gpa is much clearer
than student[2], and makes it less likely to accidentally refer to the
wrong field.
+1
iable name would make complete sense.
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 at 21:08, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
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On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
Grizz[l]y,
I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
about reasons why
On 2023-11-25 08:32:24 -0600, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list wrote:
> On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Of course, for serious work, some might suggest avoiding constructs like a
> > list of lists and switch to using modules and data structures [...]
>
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> On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...
, it makes
sense to use the expanded language if it results in faster writing perhaps
of faster code with fewer mistakes.
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__`)
perform some operations in this context (--> body of `with` statement)
tear down the context (--> method `__exit__`).
If you do not have this case (e.g. usually if you open the file
in a class's `__init__`), you do not use a context manager.
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On 24/11/2023 21.45,avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Grizz[l]y,
>
> I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
> about reasons why maintaining a data structure such as a list in a p
On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 at 21:08, Michael F. Stemper via Python-list
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> On 24/11/2023 21.45, avi.e.gr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Grizz[l]y,
> >
> > I think the point is not about a sorted list or sorting in general It is
> > about reasons why maintaining a
tion: is there any other way to use a
context manager only object within a class,
with methods accessing the object?
Or any other solution to the same situation?
Thanks a lot in advance.
P.S.: currently gmail posts are deleted, due
to excessive spam, so I'll not see any reply
coming from this family of addresses.
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s doesn't work which, in Python, it usually does in my
experience.
The error message could be a bit more helpful too, maybe one of those
"... did you mean ?" ones could point one in the right direction.
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On 11/24/2023 4:49 PM, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
That is pretty tricky, yes.
The comma means it's a tuple. Without the comma, it's just a string with
parenthesis around it, which is a string
On 11/25/2023 3:31 AM, Loris Bennett via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
I want to print some records from a database table where one of the
fields contains a JSON string which is read into a dict. I am doing
something like
print(f"{id} {d['foo']} {d['bar']}")
However, the dict does
On 11/24/23 14:10, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Chris Green wrote:
This is driving me crazy, I'm running this code:-
OK, I've found what's wrong:-
cr.execute(sql, ('%' + "2023-11" + '%'))
should be:-
cr.execute(sql, ('%' + x + '%',) )
I have to say this
Am 24.11.2023 um 22:49 schrieb Rimu Atkinson via Python-list:
I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
That is pretty tricky, yes.
The comma means it's a tuple. Without the comma, it's just a string with
parenthesis around it, which
'
default simply doesn't work right, and I really can't think of a case
where the missing comma would make any sense at all.
Maybe I've had too much to eat and drink tonight! :-)
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each end as separate variables to
the binding, this is crazy! I've done similar elsewhere and it works
OK, what on earth am I doing wrong here? It has to be something very
silly but I can't see it at the moment.
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y more compact way of achieving the same thing?
Cheers,
Loris
Yes. e.g.
d.get('foo', "NULL")
Duncan
Or make d a defaultdict.
from collections import defaultdict
dic = defaultdict(lambda:'NULL')
dic['foo'] = 'astring'
dic['foo']
'astring'
dic['bar']
'NULL'
Duncan
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2022, 17:28:38) [GCC] on linux
x = ('%' + "2023-11" + '%')
x
'%2023-11%'
x = ('%' + x + '%',)
x
('%%2023-11%%',)
x.__class__.__name__
'tuple'
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ing?
Cheers,
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Yes. e.g.
d.get('foo', "NULL")
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sort something like the above by name or GPA or number of
credits taken but the point was responding to why bother making a list just
to print it. The answer is that many and even most programs do a bit more
than that and a good choice of data structure facilitates ...
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. I'll be impressed if you can write
that in Python in a way which is easier to read.
Now that I know what {} does, you're right, that IS straightforward!
Maybe 2023 will be the year I finally get off my arse and learn regex.
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be interpreted at some point as 12
dozen, which may even be appropriate but a bit of a surprise perhaps.
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On 2023-11-17 09:38, jak via Python-list wrote:
Mike Dewhirst ha scritto:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded
Mike Dewhirst ha scritto:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded files the size of which I don't know in
advance
On 11/17/2023 9:46 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-17 07:48:41 -0500, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 11/17/2023 6:17 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
Oh, and Python (just like Perl) allows you to embed whitespace and
comments into Regexps, which helps
On 2023-11-17 07:48:41 -0500, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On 11/17/2023 6:17 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> > Oh, and Python (just like Perl) allows you to embed whitespace and
> > comments into Regexps, which helps readability a lot if you have to
> &g
On 11/17/2023 6:17 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-16 11:34:16 +1300, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
Why don't you use re.findall?
re.findall(r'\b[0-9]{2,7}-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{2}\b', txt)
I think I can see what you did there but it won't make sense to me - or
whoever
On 2023-11-16 11:34:16 +1300, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
> > > Why don't you use re.findall?
> > >
> > > re.findall(r'\b[0-9]{2,7}-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{2}\b', txt)
> >
> > I think I can see what you did there but it won't make sense to me - or
&g
On 16/11/2023 9:34 am, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote:
Why don't you use re.findall?
re.findall(r'\b[0-9]{2,7}-[0-9]{2}-[0-9]{2}\b', txt)
I think I can see what you did there but it won't make sense to me -
or whoever looks at the code - in future.
That answers your specific
oubtful. We'll see!
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On 2023-11-17 01:15, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
On 15/11/2023 3:08 pm, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-15 03:41, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like
On 15/11/2023 3:08 pm, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-15 03:41, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to
me
the
> language reference.
>
> Functions and descriptors accessed via an instance but found in a class (i.e.
> not directly in the instance) are handled specially;
> functions are bound. Other objects are returned as is.
>
> `__getattribute__` can be used to take over control over the attribute
> access.
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that can be used on arbitrary methods.
Needing to inherit and add metaclasses whenever I want to decorate is not an
option.
I think I will continue with descriptor approach and am slowly finding route to
get where I need to, but still exploring options.
Regards,
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, you would need a metaclass or `__inist_subclass__` is you
want your "custom method binding" globally.
For many methods (but usually not the `__...__` methods),
you can take over the binding in `__new__` or `__init__`
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Therefore, a method informing an descriptor about instance creation
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> Note that descriptors are stored in the class: they must not store
> instance specific information in their attributes.
> Therefore, a method informing an descriptor about instance creation
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Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 7:47, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>I wrote that you don't need the "students" list, which is correct. But
>there could be a use for a list. It would let you change the order in
>wh
On 11/16/2023 1:19 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 15:54, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre
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Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 15:54, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
>> Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (a
On 11/15/2023 2:04 PM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appear
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 12:19, Pierre Fortin wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>
>I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appear not to fully grok
>"list";
here one would need `set() == n` is hard to think
> of, but it seems fairly probable to need `set() > n` and `set() < n`.
>
> Regards,
> DG
>
>> On 15 Nov 2023, at 19:16, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
>> mailto:python-list@python.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
of attribute to receive
`instance` argument on instance creation.
Regards,
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but it seems fairly probable to need `set() > n` and `set() < n`.
Regards,
DG
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 19:16, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-15 12:26:32 +0200, Dom Grigonis wrote:
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> test2 = [True]
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:51:09 - Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
I don't give solutions; just a nudge... you appear not to fully grok
"list"; your list is ONE list with no delineation between students. You
want a "list of lists"...
>['Example High', 'Mary', 89.6
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Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:45, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 11/15/2023 2:25 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> Hi & thanks for patience with what could be simple to you
>You may see responses that sugg
On 11/15/2023 2:25 AM, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Hi & thanks for patience with what could be simple to you
Have this (from an online "classes" tutorial)
--- Start Code Snippit ---
students = []
grades = []
for s in geographyClass:
students.append(geographyStu
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:50, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
Re: Newline (NuBe Question) (at least in part)
>On 15/11/2023 07:25, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
>> for s in students:
>> grades.append(s.school)
>>
to be
significantly slower.
Regards,
DG
> On 15 Nov 2023, at 02:34, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-14 00:11:30 +0200, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>> Benchmarks:
>> test1 = [False] * 100 + [True] * 2
>> test2 = [True] * 100 + [False] * 2
>
name)
grades.append(s.finalGrade())
if s.finalGrade()>82:
grades.append("Pass")
else:
grades.append("Fail")
print(grades)
Cheers,
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On 15/11/2023 07:25, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
> for s in students:
> grades.append(s.school)
> grades.append(s.name)
> grades.append(s.finalGrade())
> if s.finalGrade()>82:
>
On 15/11/2023 20.25, Grizzy Adams via Python-list wrote:
Hi & thanks for patience with what could be simple to you
Have this (from an online "classes" tutorial)
There are lots of on-line classes!
--- Start Code Snippit ---
students = []
grades = []
for s in
ere a way to get the
newline in as I append to list?
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On 2023-11-15 03:41, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded files the size
On 15/11/2023 10:25 am, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded files the size of which I don't know in
advance.
After cleaning they might
On 2023-11-14 00:11:30 +0200, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
> Benchmarks:
> test1 = [False] * 100 + [True] * 2
> test2 = [True] * 100 + [False] * 2
>
> TIMER.repeat([
> lambda: xor(test1), # 0.0168
> lambda: xor(test2), # 0.0172
> lambda:
On 2023-11-14 23:14, Mike Dewhirst via Python-list wrote:
I'd like to improve the code below, which works. It feels clunky to me.
I need to clean up user-uploaded files the size of which I don't know in
advance.
After cleaning they might be as big as 1Mb but that would be super rare.
Perhaps
quot; ".join(pieces)
Many thanks for any hints
Cheers
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On 13 Nov 2023, at 17:21, Jacob Kruger via Python-list
wrote:
Had a look at the following bit of introduction to using python and flet to
build cross-platform flutter-based apps using same python code, and, while it
seems to work alright if tell it to run as unde
hon-list
> wrote:
>
> On 11/13/2023 11:44 PM, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
>> Dom,
>> I hear you.
>> As you say, writing your own extension in something like C++ may not appeal
>> to you even if it is faster.
>> I was wondering if using a generator or s
On 11/13/2023 11:44 PM, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
Dom,
I hear you.
As you say, writing your own extension in something like C++ may not appeal to
you even if it is faster.
I was wondering if using a generator or something similar in R might make sense.
I mean what happens if you
’t require predicates.
b) I welcome any thoughts on this.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 04:27, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I was going to ask a dumb question. Has any other language you know of made
> something available that does what is being asked for and included it in the
&
thoughts on this.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 04:27, AVI GROSS via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I was going to ask a dumb question. Has any other language you know of made
> something available that does what is being asked for and included it in the
> main program environment
other functions can easily be cobbled together.
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Subject: Re: xor operator
On 2023-11-14, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Exc
On 2023-11-14, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>
>> Except the 'any' and 'all' builtins are _exactly_ the same as bitwise
>> or and and applided to many bits. To do something "in line" with that
>> using the 'xor' operator would return True for an odd num
ching. More modern
error correction systems are slightly different, but will still be
built on many of the same principles.
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On 14/11/2023 00:33, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> Hardware and software people may have somewhat different views of xor
I've come at it from both sides. I started life as a telecomms
technician and we learned about xor in the context of switching
and relays and xor was a wir
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 12:02, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
wrote:
> As I am here, I will dare to ask if there is no way that `sign` function is
> going to be added to `math` or `builtins`.
>
https://docs.python.org/3/library/math.html#math.copysign
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thing.
DG
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 02:33, Mats Wichmann via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> On 11/13/23 16:24, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
>> I am not arguing that it is a generalised xor.
>> I don’t want anything, I am just gauging if it is specialised or if there is
>
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 11:29, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
wrote:
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>
> > Except the 'any' and 'all' builtins are _exactly_ the same as bitwise
> > or and and applided to many bits. To do something "in line" with that
> > using the 'xor' operator would ret
t 7:20 PM Grant Edwards via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 2023-11-13, Dom Grigonis via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> > I am not asking. Just inquiring if the function that I described
> > could be useful for more people.
> >
> > Which is:
On 11/13/23 16:24, Dom Grigonis via Python-list wrote:
I am not arguing that it is a generalised xor.
I don’t want anything, I am just gauging if it is specialised or if there is a
need for it. So just thought could suggest it as I have encountered such need
several times already
point.
Have you ever encountered the need for xor for many bits (the one that I am NOT
referring to)? Would be interested in what sort of case it could be useful.
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