On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:09:59 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:19:02 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Object oriented programming takes things further, most significantly by
introducing the idea that the object reference you are referencing might
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:18:25 PM UTC+5:30, Zero Piraeus wrote:
:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:20:39AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Oh well. There's only so much I can do at once. I've got bigger
troubles than trying to solve Ruby's problems with yahoos, and
frankly, if I
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, well clearly we are not having the same thoughts, yet the
purpose of the academic establishment is to pin down such terminology
and not have these sloppy understandings everywhere. You dig?
Heh Mark I am really sorry. I
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:14:29 PM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
On 17/10/2013 18:32, rusi wrote:
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, well clearly we are not having the same thoughts, yet the
purpose of the academic establishment is to pin down
On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:38:30 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
It's like this. No matter how you cut it, you're going to get back to
the computers where you load instructions with switches. At that point,
I'll be very much looking in anticipation to your binary-digit lexer.
Why stop
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:35:42 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Wirtel wrote:
Keep it in memory
Thats a strange answer given that the OP says his file is huge.
Of course 'huge' may not really be huge -- that really depends on the h/w he's
using.
--
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27:03 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are
things in our minds.
That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit
typedefs that make it a thing for the computer.
Speaking as a C
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:17:57 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 10/16/13 8:13 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
Who uses object abstraction in C? No one. That's why C++ was
invented.
Examples from
1. Linux Kernel
2. Python
3. OS/2
But, here it is significant that the user
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:20:10 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If you read the whole python-history blog on blogspot, you'll see that
Python's had it's share of mistakes, design failures and other oops!
moments. I think that it is a testament to GvR's over-all design that the
end
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Objects in programming languages (or 'values' if one is more functional
programming oriented) correspond to things in the world.
One of the things you're saying there is that values correspond to
things in the world. But
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:31:06 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:26:27 +0100, Mark Janssen
wrote:
= Rusi, attribution missing from original.
Yes. It would help to keep your quotes bound (firstclassly?) to their
respective quoters -- Mark Janssen also
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:34:56 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
To be fair to Larry, there were different design drivers working there.
One more thing to be said for perl:
I remember when some colleague first told me about perl (I guess early 90s) I
was incredulous that the *same* language
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:01:37 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, and all of that is because, the world has not settled on some
simple facts. It needs an understanding of type system. It's been
throwing terms around, some of which are well-defined, but others,
not: there has been
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:48:25 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:18:59 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
No, Python went through the usual design screwups. Look at how
painful the slow transition to Unicode was, from just str to Unicode
strings, ASCII strings,
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:04:00 PM UTC+5:30, David wrote:
I have never heard the term hypercomplex numbers. I guess you
are referring to vectors with more dimensions than two. A three
A generalization of quaternions :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_number
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have no objection to encouraging people to read the fine manual, and I
don't intend to be Nikos' (or anyone else's) unpaid full-time help desk
and troubleshooter. But I do think it is simply unfair to treat him more
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
I don't have an infinite stack to implement
lambda calculus, but...
And then
But this is not a useful formalism. Any particular Program implements
a DFA, even as it runs on a TM. The issue of whether than TM is
finite or not
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:31:21 PM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:14 AM, rusi wrote:
To explain at length will be too long and OT (off-topic) for this list.
I'll just give you a link and you tell me what you make of it:
http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 5:54:10 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Now, one can easily argue that I've gone too far to say no one has
understood it (obviously), so it's very little tongue-in-cheek, but
really, when one tries to pretend that one model of computation can be
substituted for another
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:46:50 AM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
With due respect Sir, you saying that Turing machine not a machine?
Very confusion Sir!!!
Thanks Ravi for the 'due respect' though it is a bit out of place on a list
like this :-)
Thanks even more for the 'very confusion'. I
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:35:24 PM UTC+5:30, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
So, instead of this, maybe we should work on getting psycopg2 to the
top result on Googling “python sql”, or even “python mysql” with an
anti-MySQL ad? (like vim was doing some time ago on Googling “emacs”)
Do you
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 10:57:48 PM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, rusi wrote:
4. There is a whole spectrum of such optimizaitons --
4a eg a single-call structural recursion example, does not need to push
return address on the stack. It only needs
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 1:53:46 PM UTC+5:30, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
rusi writes:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:00:41 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
Part of the reason that Python does not do tail call optimization is
that turning tail recursion into while iteration is almost
On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:20:16 PM UTC+5:30, vignesh.h...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thank you both so much! I'll be sure to make more pertinent subject lines now
:) Thanks for the detailed explanations! Clearly, I've just started learning
this language ~20 minutes before I made this post, and
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:00:41 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
Part of the reason that Python does not do tail call optimization is
that turning tail recursion into while iteration is almost trivial, once
you know the secret of the two easy steps. Here it is.
What happens for mutual
On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:11:18 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:04:32 +0200, Franck Ditter wrote:
2. Lambda-expression body is limited to one expression. Why ?
Nobody has come up with syntax that is unambiguous, would allow multiple
statements in an
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:54:22 AM UTC+5:30, Arturo B wrote:
So I know what recursion is, but I don't know how is
flatten(i)
evaluated, what value does it returns?
There is a folklore in CS that recursion is hard
[To iterate is human, to recurse divine --
On Friday, September 27, 2013 4:13:52 PM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
You should study APL. Many functions were written in one line, with
twenty lines of explanation. The function itself was considered
unreadable nonsense. And if a function stopped working, general wisdom
was to throw it out,
On Friday, September 27, 2013 12:43:51 AM UTC+5:30, D.YAN ESCOLAR RAMBAL wrote:
Good morning all
thanks for your help. Now I`ve a question, if I need create a matrix, method
of thomas, ghost nodes, etc.. for developed one aplicative for the ecuation
of difusion in 1d, 2d, 3d, 4d. It`s
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:54:22 AM UTC+5:30, Arturo B wrote:
So I know what recursion is, but I don't know how is
flatten(i)
evaluated, what value does it returns?
When you are a noob, who do you ask? The gurus.
When you are a guru who do you ask? The
On Monday, September 23, 2013 11:54:53 PM UTC+5:30, Vito De Tullio wrote:
rusi wrote:
[Not everything said there is correct; eg python supports currying better
[than haskell which is surprising considering that Haskell's surname is
[Curry!]
AFAIK python does not support currying
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:12:51 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
rusi writes:
Without resorting to lambdas/new-functions:
With functools.partial one can freeze any subset of a
function(callable's) parameters.
In Haskell one can only freeze the first parameter
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:21:19 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Would the type system get in the way of providing some analogous
function in Haskell? I don't know.
Yes.
The haskell curry
curry f x y = f (x,y)
is really only curry2
curry3 would be
curry3 f x y z = f (x,y,z)
and so
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:56:21 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:07 AM, rusi wrote:
And this is an old conundrum in programming language design:
In C printf is easy to write and NOT put into the language but into
external libraries
In Pascal
On Monday, September 23, 2013 2:01:00 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
One thing re: editors and interactive environments. I'm not a huge emacs fan
(ducking) and I really like iPython.
Heh! Yeah we are an endangered species
G enerally
N ot
U sed
E ditor for
M iddle
A ged
C omputer
S
On Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:13:13 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
This is an idea brought over from another post.
When I write Python code I generally have 2 or 3 windows open simultaneously.
1) An editor for the actual code.
2) The interactive interpreter.
3) An editor for the
On Monday, September 23, 2013 12:27:50 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
All right, never mind!
I hacked around this morning, making some changes to parts of my program that
I thought were unrelated to my namespace issues. I was paring it down to a
minimal example, to post here as Ned
Combining your two questions -- Recently:
What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
And earlier this
On Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:00:35 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote:
If there is an issue in place for improving the lambda forms then that's
good. I wanted a link about
Take a look at babel
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/data/CISE-13-3-SciProg.pdf
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html
Its my impression that babel supports everything and more that pylatex does
...the catch is that its under emacs...!!
--
On Friday, September 20, 2013 3:28:00 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote:
I started Python 4 months ago. Largely self-study with use of Python
documentation, stackoverflow and google. I was thinking what is the minimum
that I must know before I can say that I know Python?
I come from a C
On Friday, September 20, 2013 7:09:13 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-09-20 12:43, rusi wrote:
Stroustrup says he is still learning C++ and I know kids who have no qualms
saying they know programming language L (for various values of L) after
hardly an hour or two of mostly
On Friday, September 20, 2013 8:51:20 PM UTC+5:30, Kasper Guldmann wrote:
I was playing around with lambda functions, but I cannot seem to fully grasp
them. I was running the script below in Python 2.7.5, and it doesn't do what
I want it to. Are lambda functions really supposed to work that
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:12:21 AM UTC+5:30, Bryan Britten wrote:
Hey, gang, I've got a problem here that I'm sure a handful of you will know
how to solve. I've got about 6 *.csv files that I am trying to open; change
the header names (to get rid of spaces); add two new columns,
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:44:04 PM UTC+5:30, mnishpsyched wrote:
Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which
is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using
python?
Just saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dUkyn_fZA
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
The main difference between wx and qt is that qt looks native on every
platform
while wx *is* native on every platform (it uses native controls wherever
possible). This means that wx integrates into the OS better,
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:49:28 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
The main difference between wx and qt is that qt looks native on every
platform
On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:26:07 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Not specifically about Python, but still relevant:
http://blog.kickin-the-darkness.com/2007/09/confessions-of-terrible-programmer.html
Nice post -- thanks!
Prompted this from me
On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:05:53 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Skip Montanaro writes:
I really love Emacs, however... […]
This is clearly a case where choosing the proper tool is important. I
agree that using a spreadsheet to edit a 3x5 CSV file is likely
overkill (might just as
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote:
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that
emacs' ergonomics is not right.
Kind of a small sample size, don't you think? Hopefully we can kill
this meme that Emacs is somehow worse for your wrists than other
On Thursday, July 4, 2013 1:37:10 PM UTC+5:30, Göktuğ Kayaalp wrote:
Programmability comes to my mind, before anything else. I'd suggest
to find out about designs of Emacs and Vi(m).
There's one reason I prefer emacs -- and I guess some people prefer Idle -- the
interpreter and editor are
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 10:05:14 AM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
I never got why Vi doesn't support Ctrl-C by default -- it's not like
it's a used key-combination and it would have helped me so many times
when I was younger.
Dunno what you are referring to.
Out here C-c gets vi out of
On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote:
Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered to
commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A PUBLIC
FORUM. Please think before you post.
For the record Steve, let me say, I
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:09:35 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber writes:
So who would enforce any rules?
Ideally, this community is healthy enough for us to enforce the code of
conduct of our host, through social convention among us all.
Thanks Ben for that.
Lets not
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:15:15 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root
password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he had
betrayed his (our) customers' trust. I would say it with strong
emphasis and a raised tone,
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:52:12 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Does anyone know why CPython 2.5 is a dependency for Jython 2.5.1+ on
Debian squeeze?
Not exactly answering your question...
The debian dependencies can be fairly 'conservative' which means all kinds of
stuff is pulled in
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:52:12 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm running a box with Debian squeeze, and I just ran:
sudo aptitude install jython
which ended up installing Python 2.5:
BTW trying to install jython out here gave me this list
(which does not seem to have this
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:42:19 PM UTC+5:30, feedth...@gmx.de wrote:
Any questions?
YES!
Who is that hiding behind 'FeedTheTroll' ?
Well thanks anyways :-)
I was thinking of doing that but could not find my oxygen mask needed to wade
into the steaming pile of ...
--
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:31:23 PM UTC+5:30, ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
Are the existence of laws against beating people up
negated because you told them in advance? Or negated
because they deserve the beating?
One of the fundamental purpose of laws is to legalize what you call
On Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:38:31 AM UTC+5:30, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
And also, let's end this and all the related discussions about
trolling and how to deal with trolls. I can see how some are annoyed
by Νίκος and his posts but I for one am *much more* concerned/bothered
by the surrounding
A plague is raging in the town
A rat scampers into the room.
People are harried --- A RAT!
Rurpy: Rats are living beings dont you know?! Never kill a living being!
Its not humanitarian, er rattatitarian.
(200 more posts on humanitarianism, veganism, rattatitarianism etc)
Alex: Hear Hear! But
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:17:29 AM UTC+5:30, Victor Hooi wrote:
Hi,
I have a Python script where I want to run fork and run an external command
(or set of commands).
For example, after doing xyz, I then want to run ssh to a host, handover
control back to the user, and have my script
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:41:32 AM UTC+5:30, Victor Hooi wrote:
Also, what's this improvement you mentioned?
See thread
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-June/650550.html
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Monday, July 1, 2013 7:31:18 PM UTC+5:30, Walter Hurry wrote:
Please...enough. Polite request: consider killfiling him and having done
with it.
It is irritating to see all the responses even though I killfiled him
long ago. Whilst I realise, of course, that it is entirely your
On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:04:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
And no, i do not want to piss off people like you, who have spend time
helping me.
Too late. I asked you to stop flaming on-list, and you didn't. I am now
kill-filing you for a month. Feel grateful that it is not permanent,
On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:26:21 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing
the list.
This 'and' is type-wrong.
I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but you
two in particular are causing a lot of trouble for the
On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:59:35 PM UTC+5:30, Tobiah wrote:
So today, I created a file called 'formatter.py',
and my program broke. It turned out that I was
also import 'gluon' from web2py, which in turn,
somewhere, imported the regular python formatter.py
with which I was not familiar.
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:46:40 AM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 1 July 2013 19:29, rusi wrote:
On Monday, July 1, 2013 10:26:21 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing
the list.
This 'and' is type-wrong.
I don't
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 1:32:44 AM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
But what was the expected output? And who cares? The code made no
sense, was incomplete, and the posted question was nonsensical.
Yes in this specific instance all this is probably true.
I believe however, that Joel's intent in
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 1:24:30 AM UTC+5:30, Tobiah wrote:
Are you familiar with absolute and relative imports:
http://docs.python.org/release/2.5/whatsnew/pep-328.html
Doesn't seem to work:
Python 2.7.3 (default, May 10 2012, 13:31:18)
[GCC 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu4)] on linux2
Type
On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:36:53 PM UTC+5:30, Neil Cerutti wrote:
On 2013-07-01, rusi wrote:
1. Kill-filing/spam-filtering are tools for spam.
Nikos is certainly not spamming in the sense of automated
sending out of cooked mail to zillions of recipients/lists.
His posts are definite
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:38:01 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
One of the reasons I switched to Python was to not have to do that, or
hardly ever. For valid code, an new declaration is hardly needed. Parameters
are locals. If the
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:23:35 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
If, in the general case, the compiler requires two passes to understand
a function body, then *so do people*#. This requirement is what trips up
people who are either not used to the idea of two-pass compilation or do
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:52:24 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 01:56:25 -0700, rusi wrote:
Now having such passes is one thing. Defining the language in terms of
them quite another...
I don't believe that Python's behaviour is defined in terms of the number
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:24:46 PM UTC+5:30, Akshay Kayastha wrote:
Hi I am trying to compile a python module called hunspell from the following
[source](https://pypi.python.org/pypi/hunspell).
According to
http://docs.python.org/2/extending/windows.html
you need to use the same compiler
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:08:51 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
for host in hosts:
deploy(the_code).remote()
For further hack delight, require a patch
Submitted for this code restrict itself
To five feet, neither more nor less;
On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:32:01 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
Op 29-06-13 16:02, Michael Torrie schreef:
The real problem here is that you don't understand how python variables
work. And in fact, python does not have variables. It has names that
bind to objects.
I don't
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 12:21:35 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 19:02:01 +0200, Antoon Pardon wrote:
We might as well say that C doesn't have variables, it has names
pointing to memory locations or value containers or something like that.
AFAICS there is no
On Friday, June 28, 2013 3:45:27 PM UTC+5:30, Νίκος wrote:
Στις 28/6/2013 12:35 μμ, ο/η Robert Kern έγραψε:
I see, your explanation started to make things clearer to me.
What is the easiest and simplest web framework you advise me to use?
Here's a picture of the web-development scene as I
On Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:06:37 AM UTC+5:30, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 06/27/2013 03:49 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[rant]
I think it is lousy design for a framework like argparse to raise a
custom ArgumentError in one part of the code, only to catch it elsewhere
and call sys.exit. At the
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:35:14 PM UTC+5:30, Russel Walker wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:19:18 AM UTC+2, Thrinaxodon wrote:
snipped
I was hoping to have a good laugh. :|
Although I wouldn't call it hostile.
I think the python community is being educated in how to spam and troll at
I am looking for a quote
(from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school')
It goes something like this:
What characterizes a language is not what we can say in it but what we must --
like it or not -- say.
A demo of this is D Hofstadter's
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:49:23 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, rusi wrote:
I am looking for a quote
(from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school')
It goes something like this:
What characterizes a language is not what we can
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Vlastimil Brom wrote:
Hi,
I belive, the author is Roman Jakobson, see the respective post about
this very question:
http://linguistlist.org/issues/9/9-32.html
Thanks!
There seem to be several variations,
Another remarkable linguist
On Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:44:36 PM UTC+5:30, Fábio Santos wrote:
On 27 Jun 2013 14:49, gamesb...@gmail.com wrote:
I've used web frameworks, but I don't know how they work. Is there anywhere
that I can learn how this all works from scratch?
Write CGI scripts. It is the most raw way to
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:03:39 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:39:53 -0400, jimjhb wrote:
I just checked and MISRA-C 2012 now allows gotos in specific, limited
circumstances. I think it was the MISRA-C 1998 standard that caused all
this trouble.
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:09:53 PM UTC+5:30, jim...@aol.com wrote:
I just checked and MISRA-C 2012 now allows gotos in specific, limited
circumstances. I think it was the MISRA-C 1998 standard that caused all this
trouble. So if MISRA now allows goto, why not Python :)
Not sure who
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:54:56 PM UTC+5:30, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 25 June 2013 22:48, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 25 June 2013 17:47:22 Joshua Landau did opine:
I did not.
I guess Joshua is saying that saying ≠ opining
[Or is he opining?]
--
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:44:44 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
I'd probably just go with a generator expression to feed the for loop:
for X in (i for i in ListY if conditionZ):
Nice idiom -- thanks
Yes it does not correspond to a takewhile (or break in the control
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:48:44 AM UTC+5:30, jyou...@kc.rr.com wrote:
1. Is there another way to get metadata out of a pdf without having to
install another module?
2. Is it safe to assume pdf files should always be encoded as latin-1 (when
trying to read it this way)? Is there a chance
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:30:54 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
In my experience the sorts of people who preach one exit point are
also all about defining preconditions and postconditions and proving
that the postconditions follow from the preconditions. I think that
the two are linked, because the
I guess the string constant 'XYZ:colorlist' needs to be a byte-string -- use b
prefix?
Dunno for sure. Black hole for me -- unicode!
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:35:50 AM UTC+5:30, willle...@gmail.com wrote:
thanks man you answered my questions very clear, btw do you know of a place
where I can learn python I know some tutorials but are 2. something and I'm
using 3.3 and I've been told they are different.
If you are a
On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:04:48 AM UTC+5:30, cutems93 wrote:
Alright. Thanks everyone for your responses. I just want to know what tools
are GENERALLY used by professional developers. I am helping somebody who
wants to know about software that he might use in his project. He does not
know
On Monday, June 24, 2013 11:50:38 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
rusi writes:
I dont know what you mean my 'scripting'
Any time someone has shown me a “Python script”, I don't see how it's
different from what I'd call a “Python program”. So I just mentally
replace “scripting
On Monday, June 24, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC+5:30, christ...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my code...I'm using 2.7.5
username=raw_input(Please enter your username: )
password=raw_input(Please enter your password: )
if username == john doe and password == fopwpo:
print Login Successful
else:
On Monday, June 24, 2013 1:02:51 PM UTC+5:30, Νίκος wrote:
And also in my pelatologio.py and other script i use if statements to
check if user submitted data or not so to print them on screen and then
exit, like modularization.
foe example:
if( log ):
name = log
print
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:08:57 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:52 AM, wrote:
(NOTE: Many people are being taught to avoid 'break' and 'continue' at all
costs...
Why? Why on earth should break/continue be avoided?
Because breaks and continues are just
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:41:22 AM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
rusi writes:
I dont however think that the two philosophies are the same. See
http://www.tcl.tk/doc/scripting.html
That essay constrasts “scripting” versus “system programming”, a useful
(though terminologically confusing
On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:09:19 AM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
And convenience for the programmer.
Manipulating long texts using variable-length strings? Yes, I know
it's inefficient, but it's still faster than doing it by hand!
Well... did not say it because it tends to be emotionally
On Monday, June 24, 2013 5:58:03 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 13:40:07 -0700, cutems93 wrote:
What else do I need?
You don't *need* any of these. You only *need* two things to write Python
code: something to edit text files, and the Python interpreter to check
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