On Sep 30, 5:58 pm, tcgo wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm really new to Usenet/Newsgroups, but... I'd like to learn some new
> programming language, because I learnt a bit of Perl though its OOP is ugly.
> So, after searching a bit, I found Python and Ruby, and both of they are cute.
> So, assuming you'll say
On Sep 28, 5:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:08:24 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 5:11 pm, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:
On Sep 27, 5:11 pm, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:15:00 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > And a response:
>
> >http://data.geek.nz/python-is-doing-just-fine
>
> Summary of that article:
>
> "Sure, you have all these
On Sep 28, 10:21 am, Dwight Hutto wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Littlefield, Tyler
> wrote:
> > On 9/27/2012 10:50 PM, Dwight Hutto wrote:
>
> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dwight Hutto
> >>> wrote:
>
> [ lo
On Sep 7, 9:32 am, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rusi writes:
> > On an 8086/8088 a MUL (multiply) instruction was of the order of 100
> > clocks ... On most modern processors (after the pentium) the
> > difference has mostly vanished. I cant find a good data sheet to
> >
On Sep 7, 5:01 am, jimbo1qaz wrote:
> Is it faster to use bitshifts or floor division? And which is better, & or %?
> All divisors and mods are power of 2, so are binary operations faster? And
> are they considered bad style?
On an 8086/8088 a MUL (multiply) instruction was of the order of 100
c
On Sep 5, 4:27 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 05/09/2012 00:05, Ben Finney wrote:
>
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> > Andreas Perstinger writes:
>
> >> On 04.09.2012 11:34, Paolo wrote:
> >>> how do I know if a JTextField has the focus?
> >>> thank to all
>
> >> Look there:
> >>http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smar
On Aug 28, 4:57 am, Neil Hodgson wrote:
> wxjmfa...@gmail.com:
>
> > Go "has" the integers int32 and int64. A rune ensure
> > the usage of int32. "Text libs" use runes. Go has only
> > bytes and runes.
>
> Go's text libraries use UTF-8 encoded byte strings. Not arrays of
> runes. See, for exa
On Aug 24, 8:58 pm, rusi wrote:
> On Aug 24, 7:23 pm, Ramchandra Apte wrote:
>
> > As BFDL, I hereby command everybody to stop the discussion.
> > lets put time on useful stuff
>
> > i am using google groups (i think it knows what to do)
>
> Your posts are co
On Aug 23, 8:30 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
> We got burned yesterday by a scenario which has burned us before. We had
> multiple copies of a module in sys.path. One (the one we wanted) was in our
> deployed code tree, the other was in /usr/local/lib/python/ or some such. It
> was a particularly co
On Aug 24, 12:22 am, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, wrote:
> >> >>> sys.getsizeof('a' * 80 * 50)
>
> >> > 4025
>
> >> sys.getsizeof('a' * 80 * 50 + '•')
>
> >> > 8040
>
> >> This example is still benefiting from shrinking the number of bytes
>
> >> in half over usi
On Aug 24, 7:23 pm, Ramchandra Apte wrote:
> As BFDL, I hereby command everybody to stop the discussion.
> lets put time on useful stuff
>
> i am using google groups (i think it knows what to do)
Your posts are coming in doubles.
And the quoted lines are coming double-spaced!
Actually the 'new'
On Aug 23, 12:52 pm, Fg Nu wrote:
> List folk,
>
> I am a newbie trying to get used to Python. I was wondering if anyone knows
> of web resources that teach good practices in data cleaning and management
> for statistics/analytics/machine learning, particularly using Python.
>
> Ideally, these w
On Aug 23, 3:11 pm, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> Mark Carter wrote:
> > Suppose I want to define a function "safe", which returns the argument
> > passed if there is no error, and 42 if there is one. So the setup is
> > something like:
>
> > def safe(x):
> > # WHAT WOULD DEFINE HERE?
On Aug 23, 9:34 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:46:43 +0100, lipska the kat wrote:
> > We need to separate out the 'view' from the 'implementation' here. Most
> > developers I know, if looking at the code and without the possibly
> > dubious benefit of knowing that in Python 'e
On Aug 19, 12:15 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> is probably a really great person and kind to small animals and furry
> children, but...
ROFL!
The first we're all familiar with.
Furry children?
Something to do with heads the size of a planet?
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-l
On Aug 19, 11:11 pm, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
> Le dimanche 19 août 2012 19:48:06 UTC+2, Paul Rubin a écrit :
>
>
>
> > But they are not ascii pages, they are (as stated) MOSTLY ascii.
>
> > E.g. the characters are 99% ascii but 1% non-ascii, so 393 chooses
>
> > a much more memory-expensive enco
On Aug 18, 10:59 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:07:05 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
> > Is there any reason why non ascii users are somehow penalized compared
> > to ascii users?
>
> Of course there is a reason.
>
> If you want to represent 1114111 different characters in a string,
On Aug 18, 8:34 pm, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2012-08-17, rusi wrote:
>
> > I was in a corporate environment for a while. And carried my
> > 'trim&interleave' habits there. And got gently scolded for seeming to
> > hide things!!
>
> I have, rarely, g
On Aug 17, 10:19 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT), Madison May
> declaimed the following in
> gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>
>
> > As a lurker, I agree completely with Chris's sentiments.
>
> I've been holding back on quoting the "netiquette RFC"...
On Aug 17, 12:25 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
> > There is already awesome protocols for running Python code remotely over
> > a network. Please do not re-invent the wheel without good reason.
>
> > See pyro, twisted, rpyc, rpclib, jpc,
On Aug 17, 3:36 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Ramchandra Apte
> wrote:
> > On 16 August 2012 21:00, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> >> and "bottom" reads better than "top"
>
> > Look you are the only person complaining about top-posting.
> > GMail uses top-posting by defau
On Aug 13, 1:05 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> Chill out Alex, it's all good. Mark was channelling a famous scene from
> "Fawlty Towers", staring Monty Python's own John Cleese, hence it is on-
> topic, for the sillier definitions of on-topic.
Ha! Thanks for that connection.
Watched and enjoyed F
On Aug 8, 2:51 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
> The point I'm obviously struggling to make is that words convey concepts
> The word Person conveys a whole lifetime of experience of People and as
> imperfect human beings many of us are unable to tease out 'bits of being
> a person' that are relevant to
On Aug 7, 7:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
>
> Never thought so for a moment, good to know you can be reasonable as
> well as misguided ;-)
Well Lipska I must say that I find something resonant about the 'no-
person' thing, though I am not sure what.
You also said something about 'user' being more
On Aug 7, 8:06 am, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> On 08/05/2012 09:52 PM, John Mordecai Dildy wrote:
>
> > NameError: name 'start' is not defined
>
> > anyone know how to make start defined
>
> Maybe rename it "defined_start" ;)
>
> I wonder how someone can get to the point of writing more than 76 lines
On Aug 4, 11:15 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Most people are aware, if only vaguely, of the big Four Python
> implementations:
I think the question about where Cython fits into this, raises the
need for a complementary list to Steven's. What are the different
ways in which python can be extende
On Aug 5, 11:26 pm, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Mark Lawrence writes:
> > On 05/08/2012 16:58, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> >> Walter Hurry writes:
>
> >>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:24:36 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>
> I'm searching for a way to develope a Python graphical application for a
> Postgresql dat
On Aug 7, 6:16 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:05:50 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
> > These are not the errors an intermediate user would make, nor the
> > questions an intermediate user would ask. These are the errors that
> > somebody who doesn't know Python would make.
> >
On Aug 6, 7:27 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
> You take out the garbage.
> I've got automatic garbage collection
:-)
BTW in "automatic garbage collection" which of the three words is most
important? Least?
Heres another take on nouns (and therefore OO):
http://hilgart.org/enformy/dma-verb.htm
--
On Aug 6, 12:46 am, lipska the kat wrote:
> On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming
> > with Python.
>
> Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that
> particular part of our world that you are trying to
On Aug 3, 10:04 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
>
> 117 methods seems a lot doesn't it. I'm still trying to get my head
> around Python packages, I think Eclipse will help me with this and the
> whole module mix of functions and classes is taking a while to get used
> to. The standard included libraries
On Aug 3, 4:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
> A while ago someone asked me what I thought of the Eclipse plugin for
> python, well I just downloaded and installed the latest version of
> Eclipse for Java (Juno) followed by the Python plugin.
Thanks Lipska for reporting back.
I personally find the ec
On Jul 29, 9:01 pm, lipska the kat wrote:
> Pythoners
>
> Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
>
> I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
> available, commercially used languages of the moment.
>
> My most recent experience is with Java
On Jul 29, 10:08 am, Ben Finney wrote:
> Tim Chase writes:
> > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> > > I highly recommend the use of notepad++. If anyone knows of a
> > > better text editor for Windows please let me know :)
I would have bet Mark was ribbing the folks on this
On Jul 25, 1:40 pm, Ulrich Eckhardt
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I just had an idea, it occurred to me that the pass statement is pretty
> similar to the print statement, and similarly to the print() function,
> there could be a pass() function that does and returns nothing.
>
> Example:
> def pass():
>
Ulrich:
If you take a look at pep 3105 you find five rationales.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3105/#rationale
If the first were the only one then your suggestion would have merit.
There are also the other 4 in which pass and print dont really
correspond.
Steven wrote earlier:
> I have an ax
On Jul 25, 2:25 am, eric.lemi...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 23, 2012 11:59:10 PM UTC-6, Rusi wrote:
> > Ive heard good things about scons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCons
>
> I've heard about SCons but don't know much about it. From what little I've
&
On Jul 23, 11:16 pm, eric.lemi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I would like to leverage the Python packaging tools (e.g. distutils,
> setuptools, distribute, et. al.) to maintain (i.e. download, extract,
> configure, make, install, package) source distributions other than Python
> modul
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> > When people boycott a product, it isn't because not having the product
> > is better than having the product. That's clearly untrue: despite the
> > reasons for the boycott, the product has some value. They boycott it
> > because by
On Jul 22, 10:23 pm, Lipska the Kat wrote:
> Heh heh, Nothing to do with Eclipse, just another thing to get my head
> around. For work and Java IMHO you can't beat eclipse...
> at the moment I'm getting my head around git,
Bumped into this yesterday. Seems like a good aid to git-comprehension
ht
On Jul 24, 9:28 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, rusi wrote:
> > "How many of you use Linux?" I ask.
>
> The awkwardness is in the definition of the question. Many of the
> products that I buy will have, at some point, been carried by a tru
On Jul 24, 7:51 am, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
> >> Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my
> >> opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers
> >> freely available, not even an abstra
On Jul 23, 7:27 pm, Grant Edwards wrote:
> That said, "map" seems to be frowned upon by the Python community for
> reasons I've never really understood,...
Maybe the analogy:
comprehension : map:: relational calculus : relational algebra
In particular map, filter correspond to project and
On Jul 22, 2:20 pm, Lipska the Kat wrote:
> Well I have to say that I've used Eclipse with the myEclipse plugin for
> a number of years now and although it has it's moments it has earned me
> LOADS of MONEY so I can't really criticise it.
Ive probably tried to use eclipse about 4 times in the la
On Jul 22, 1:10 am, Dave Angel wrote:
> A totally off-the-wall query. Are you using a source control system,
> such as git ? It can make you much braver about refactoring a working
> program.
Question in a similar vein: What development environment do you use?
My impression is that the majorit
On Jul 21, 7:09 am, Menghsiu Lee wrote:
"can someone teach me this?"
Lesson 1: Use an informational subject line
Lesson 2: Post what you did and what happened
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ented language is just plain misleading.
> On 19/07/12 07:09, rusi wrote:
> > In layman-speak and object is well, a thing.
>
> But we are not talking in 'layman-speak' we are discussing concepts that
> are familiar to us in the 'language of the domain' at
On Jul 19, 6:34 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:00 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
> > Object Oriented programming is all about encapsulating human concepts in
> > a way that makes sense to human beings. Make no mistake, it is NEVER the
> > case that a software system is writte
On Jul 18, 5:46 am, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 17/07/2012 19:36, Lipska the Kat wrote:
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> > On 17/07/12 19:18, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> >> On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
> >>> Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
>
> > Well 'type-bondag
On Jul 15, 9:50 pm, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:19:16 AM UTC-5, Ian wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> > wrote:
> > > (For the record, I can only think of one trap for the unwary: time
> > > objects are false at *exactly* midnight.)
>
> > Ugh, that
On Jul 15, 11:35 am, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> moo...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
> > ...
> > Does pickle have any advantages over json/yaml?
>
> It can store and retrieve almost any Python object with almost no effort.
>
> Up to you whether you see it as an advantage to be able to store
> objects rather tha
On Jul 14, 10:50 am, moo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Hi,
> This is a general question, loosely related to python since it will be the
> implementation language.
> I would like some suggestions as to manage simulation results data from my
> ASIC design.
>
> For my design,
> - I have a number of simula
On Jul 14, 7:45 pm, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 07/13/2012 03:12 PM, Jean Dubois wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the extra docu references
>
> In this day and age, I think compiling ui files to code is probably on
> the way out. Instead you should consider using the ui files directly in
> your code. This
On Jul 14, 8:43 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:31:24 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > Consider the following
>
> > def foo(x):
> > i = 100
> > if x:
> > j = [i for i in range(10)]
> > return i
> > else:
&g
On Jul 13, 10:53 pm, Hans Mulder wrote:
> If you add `global VERBOSE` to `caller`, then there is only one
> variable named `VERBOSE` and what `function` does, depends on
> the most recent assignment to that variable.
>
> If you remove your `global VERBOSE`, then there are two
> variables by that n
On Jul 13, 9:12 pm, "Prasad, Ramit" wrote:
> > VERBOSE = True
>
> > def function(arg):
> > if VERBOSE:
> > print("calling function with arg %r" % arg)
> > process(arg)
>
> > def caller():
> > VERBOSE = False
> > function(1)
>
> > -
On Jul 13, 8:36 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>
> wrote:
> > Actually, no. Is True less than False, or is it greater? In boolean
> > algebra, the question has no answer. It is only an implementation detail
> > of Python that chooses False < True.
>
>
To come back to the OPs question.
Variables can be assigned. Or they can be bound.
[C++ programmers will be familiar with the difference between
initialization and assignment]
List comprehensions are defined in terms of assignment to the local
variable rather than binding.
Hence the issue.
Below
On Jul 13, 11:36 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:33:40 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 11:41 am, Daniel Fetchinson
> > wrote:
> >> funcs = [ lambda x: x**i for i in range( 5 ) ] print funcs[0]( 2 )
> >> print funcs[1]( 2 )
> &g
On Jul 11, 11:41 am, Daniel Fetchinson
wrote:
> funcs = [ lambda x: x**i for i in range( 5 ) ]
> print funcs[0]( 2 )
> print funcs[1]( 2 )
> print funcs[2]( 2 )
>
> This gives me
>
> 16
> 16
> 16
>
> When I was excepting
>
> 1
> 2
> 4
>
> Does anyone know why?
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
Your expectatio
On Jul 10, 12:33 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> This is why I hate job interviews. You have like 30 minutes, or even as
> little as 30 seconds, to make a good impression on somebody who may or
> may not be capable of telling the difference between a cheese sandwich
> and a box of hair -- and even th
On Jul 10, 4:40 am, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article ,
> Christian Heimes wrote:
>
> > Am 09.07.2012 23:22, schrieb Peter:
> > > One of my favourite questions when interviewing - and it was 100% reliable
> > > :-) - "what are your hobbies?"
>
> > > If the answer included programming then they were
On Jul 4, 11:17 am, alex23 wrote:
> On Jul 4, 3:39 pm, "Littlefield, Tyler" wrote:
>
> > I basically just stopped after a while. It got into a my language is
> > better than your language, so I didn't see much constructive info.
>
> To be fair, it's more "my vision of the language is better than
On Jul 3, 7:25 am, John O'Hagan wrote:
>
> I agree to some extent, but as a counter-example, when I was a child there
> a subject called "Weights and Measures" which is now redundant because of the
> Metric system. I don't miss hogsheads and fathoms at all.
>
> Music is another field which could d
On Jul 1, 9:03 pm, Dave Cook wrote:
> On 2012-07-01, Virgil Stokes wrote:
>
> > I have tried to update 0.12 in Ubuntu 12.04 but as of now it can not find
> > 0.13.
> > Any suggestions on how to get it into Ubuntu 12.04 would be appreciated.
>
> Install pip and use it to upgrade ipython:
>
> sudo
On Jul 1, 8:23 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 10:37:05 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Ben Finney
> > wrote:
> >> Thomas Jollans writes:
>
> >>> My sole point, really, is that "normally", one would expect these two
> >>> expressions to be equiv
On Jul 1, 3:05 am, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> Yes. My sole point, really, is that "normally", one would expect these
> two expressions to be equivalent:
>
> a < b < c
> (a < b) < c
>
> This is clearly not true. That's the inconsistency here
I dont see the inconsistency with the specific example
On Jun 10, 3:36Â pm, Arnaud Delobelle wrote:
> On 10 June 2012 07:16, rusi wrote:
>
> > This is worth a read in this
> > context:http://osteele.com/archives/2004/11/ides
>
> Interesting! I definitely fall nicely at one extreme of this
> dichotomy. Â Every time I&#
On Jun 28, 2:00 am, David Thomas wrote:
> Hi I know that this is a group about Python. But I am just wondering if
> anybody can recommend any introductory/good books on Conputer Science.
>
> Kind regards
This is like asking: How do I live my life? or make money (or love)?
etc
Not that there are
On Jun 22, 8:58 pm, duncan smith
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have an application that would benefit from collaborative
> working. Over time users construct a "data environment" which is a
> number of files in JSON format contained in a few directories (in the
> future I'll probably place these in a
On Jun 12, 3:19 am, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 11/06/12 06:20, rusi wrote:
>
> > Hi Matěj! If this question is politically incorrect please forgive me.
> > Do you speak only one (natural) language -- English?
> > And if this set is plural is your power of expression identi
On Jun 10, 6:40 pm, Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 10/06/12 00:44, Yesterday Paid wrote:
>
> > I'm planning to learn one more language with my python.
>
> Just my personal experience, but after passively learning many many
> languages, I came to the conclusion that I (and I suppose many others)
> am able
On Jun 10, 4:52Â pm, Dietmar Schwertberger
wrote:
> Am 10.06.2012 08:16, schrieb rusi:> This is worth a read in this
> context:http://osteele.com/archives/2004/11/ides
>
>
> I've read the article. It presents some nice ideas, but probably the
> author has not used Pyt
On Jun 9, 10:07 pm, Dietmar Schwertberger
wrote:
> > And you can than go in the code editor to that function and change the
> > code to do whatever you want.
>
> Having to go there is already more work than I would expect.
> I would expect to go there e.g. by a double-click.
>
> This is just a min
On Jun 10, 7:46 am, Adam Campbell wrote:
> The Nexus programming language version 0.5.0 has been released. It is
> an "object-oriented, dynamically-typed, reflective programming
> language", drawing from Lua and Ruby.www.nexuslang.org
What does nexus have that python doesn't?
Yeah I know this kin
On May 28, 9:13 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rusi writes:
> > Ive been wanting to try the sl4a for a new android phone Ive got hold
> > of as spelt out at
> >http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10940
>
> > Has anyone any experience/dos/donts for this?
>
> One of
Ive been wanting to try the sl4a for a new android phone Ive got hold
of as spelt out at
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10940
Has anyone any experience/dos/donts for this?
I am writing this while the update of the android sdk is happening and
its taking forever.
So just wondering if its wort
On Apr 6, 10:13 am, Steve Howell wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:59 pm,rusi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 6:56 am,SteveHowell wrote:
>
> > > One of the biggest nuisances for programmers, just beneath date/time
> > > APIs in the pantheon of annoyances, is that we are constantly dea
On May 1, 9:50 am, deuteros wrote:
> I'm using regular expressions to split a string using multiple delimiters.
> But if two or more of my delimiters occur next to each other in the
> string, it puts an empty string in the resulting list. For example:
>
> re.split(':|;|px', "width:150px;he
On Apr 26, 7:44 pm, Adam Skutt wrote:
> On Apr 26, 10:18 am, rusi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 26, 4:42 pm, Adam Skutt wrote:
>
> > > In a mathematical sense, you're saying that given f(x) = x+2, using
> > > f(x) is somehow more "direct" (whatever
On Apr 26, 4:42 pm, Adam Skutt wrote:
>
> In a mathematical sense, you're saying that given f(x) = x+2, using
> f(x) is somehow more "direct" (whatever the hell that even means) than
> using 'x+2'. That's just not true. We freely and openly interchange
> them all the time doing mathematics. Pro
On Apr 24, 4:06 pm, Thomas Rachel wrote:
> Am 24.04.2012 08:02 schrieb rusi:
>
> > On Apr 23, 9:34 am, Steven D'Aprano > +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
> >> "is" is never ill-defined. "is" always, without exception, returns True
On Apr 23, 9:34 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> "is" is never ill-defined. "is" always, without exception, returns True
> if the two operands are the same object, and False if they are not. This
> is literally the simplest operator in Python.
Circular definition: In case you did not notice, 'is' an
On Apr 16, 11:44 am, Bryan
wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > And how is that different from any other two versions of Python?
>
> Python 3.0, also known as “Python 3000” or “Py3K”, is the first ever
> *intentionally backwards incompatible* Python release. --GVR
>
> > Unless both versions include
On Apr 14, 11:25 pm, vmars316 wrote:
> win7HomePremium:
> Greetings,
> 1)
> I installed portablePython(pP) here:
> C:\Users\vmars\Python3
> ?Does that look ok?
A brief look at portable python's website indicates that its meant for
running off usb sticks (ie without installation)
If you are insta
On Apr 15, 7:47 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:25:57 -0700, vmars316 wrote:
> > win7HomePremium:
> > Greetings,
> > 1)
> > I installed portablePython(pP) here:
> > C:\Users\vmars\Python3
> > ?Does that look ok?
>
> Sure, why not?
>
> > 2)
> > I would like to try pyWin, but it
On Apr 11, 8:38 pm, Peng Yu wrote:
> On Apr 11, 10:25 am, John Gordon wrote:
>
> > In <2900f481-fbe9-4da3-a7ca-5485d1ceb...@m13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> Peng
> > Yu writes:
>
> > > It is confusing to me what the best workflow is for python module
> > > development. There is setup.py, egg. Also
On Apr 6, 8:40 pm, André Malo wrote:
> * Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 23:08:11 +0200, André Malo wrote:
>
> >> * Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> >>> For a 21st century programming language or data format to accept only
> >>> one type of quotation mark as string delimiter is rather lik
On Apr 6, 7:18 pm, Grzegorz Staniak wrote:
> On 06.04.2012, Steven D'Aprano wroted:
>
> >> Are there languages (other than python) in which single and double
> >> quotes are equivalent?
>
> > Classic REXX, CSS, JavaScript, Lua, Prolog, XPath, YAML, Modula-2, HTML,
> > and (of course) English. The
On Apr 6, 6:55 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:28:01 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > Are there languages (other than python) in which single and double
> > quotes are equivalent?
>
> Classic REXX, CSS, JavaScript, Lua, Prolog, XPath, YAML, Modula-2, HTML,
On Apr 6, 1:52 pm, Nobody wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:28:19 -0700, rusi wrote:
> > All this mess would vanish if the string-literal-starter and ender
> > were different.
>
> You still need an escape character in order to be able to embed an
> unbalanced end character
On Apr 6, 9:54 am, Steve Howell wrote:
> JS, YAML, and HTML are pretty similar to Python with respect to single
> vs. double, as far as I know/remember/care.
[Complete ignoramus here -- writing after a few minutes of googling]
YAML: http://yaml.org/spec/current.html#single%20quoted%20style/synta
On Apr 6, 10:13 am, Steve Howell wrote:
> On Apr 5, 9:59 pm, rusi wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 6:56 am, Steve Howell wrote:
>
> > > One of the biggest nuisances for programmers, just beneath date/time
> > > APIs in the pantheon of annoyances, is that we are const
On Apr 6, 6:56 am, Steve Howell wrote:
> One of the biggest nuisances for programmers, just beneath date/time
> APIs in the pantheon of annoyances, is that we are constantly dealing
> with escaping/encoding/formatting issues.
[OT for this list]
If you run
$ find /usr/share/emacs/23.3/lisp/ -name
On Apr 5, 4:06 pm, Duncan Booth wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > JSON expects double-quote marks, not single:
> > v = json.loads("{'test':'test'}") fails
> > v = json.loads('{"test":"test"}') succeeds
>
> You mean JSON expects a string with valid JSON?
> Quelle surprise.
Are there l
On Apr 3, 11:42 pm, Nathan Rice
wrote:
> Lets start with some analogies. In cooking, chefs use recipes to
> produce a meal; the recipe is not a tool. In architecture, a builder
> uses a blueprint to produce a building; the blueprint is not a tool.
> In manufacturing, expensive machines use plans
All this futuristic grandiloquence:
On Apr 3, 10:17 pm, Nathan Rice
wrote:
> The crux of my view is that programming languages exist in part
> because computers in general are not smart enough to converse with
> humans on their own level, so we have to talk to them like autistic 5
> year-olds. T
On Apr 3, 9:15 pm, Nathan Rice
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, rusi wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 5:39 pm, Nathan Rice
> > wrote:
>
> >> Don't think "underlying", instead think "canonical".
>
> >> Ultimately, the answers to yo
On Apr 3, 5:39 pm, Nathan Rice
wrote:
>
> Don't think "underlying", instead think "canonical".
>
> Ultimately, the answers to your questions exist in the world for you
> to see. How does a surgeon describe a surgical procedure? How does a
> chef describe a recipe? How does a carpenter describe
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