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postmas...@python.org.
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> and there was no Pip. I would like to know why.
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Can't help with the empty/missing Scripts folder. Does running
python -m ensurepip
get you a working pip? Which you should then run as
python -m
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PyPI, then use that when running a version of Python which lacks nntplib.
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but those are now old (both introduced before 2010). When was the last time
a clever easter egg was introduced or an April Fool's Day joke played?
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> Hello, I'm working with an employer that is looking to hire someone in
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to the top of the virtual machine loop. That would (I think) avoid checks
related to GIL release and thread switches.
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best of 5: 98.7 usec per loop
I process the output of timeit's help message which looks to be about the
same length as a typical email message, certainly the same order of
magnitude. Also, note that I call it once in the setup to eliminate the
initial training of the ConllExtractor instance. I don't know if ~100us
qualifies as long running or not.
I'll keep messing with it.
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consuming huge amounts of CPU. Does threading.Lock.acquire() sleep
anywhere? I didn't see anything obvious poking around in the C code
which implements this stuff. I'm no expert though, so could easily
have missed something.
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Off the top of my head, I can't recall if it's LTS or not. If you want to
go beyond 3.10.6, it should be possible. As Grant indicated though,
upgrading packages on an Ubuntu system (of any flavor) is the province of
the Ubuntu
python-for-android/
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args = parser.parse_args(["--help", "--version"])
Which option is processed depends on their order on the command line. I
don't believe it's possible to run the script and see them both processed.
That's probably a secondary consideration though. My script is working well
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could use something like nargs='*', but that would push off
detection of the presence of the positional arg to the application.
Shouldn't I be able to tell argparse I'm going to process --verbose, then
exit?
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"ref-strings." Sorry about that.
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>> 1. The culprit was me. As laz
ere was some discussion about whether and how to efficiently
admit f-strings to the logging package. I'm guessing that's not gone
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is 13. I could definitely see the pattern in the story transferring over to
Chris and Carmine.
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unspecified. That would give the implementer (likely Tim Peters much of the
time) the freedom to do whatever worked best for performance or simplicity
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> Do you know of a library that resolves schedules like every Wednesday
> at 3:00pm to absolute time, that is return the datetime of the next
> occurrence?
Take a look at the `rrule` module in the `dateutil` package:
https://dateutil.readthedocs.io/en/stable/rrule.html
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y want the graphics to be terribly
Python-centric. Consequently, "import this" is probably not going to work.
I have decided to go ahead and use my first name in lower case Courier as
the core piece of the downtube graphic:
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That's not too informative (other than its relationship to
ke pynput. Something with application to
a much wider community, like numpy, returns a bunch more:
https://www.libhunt.com/r/numpy
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packages. With that many hosted packages, it is almost
certainly a haven for some undetected vulnerabilities. Knowing which
packages have been audited — at least in a cursory fashion — could be used
as a further criterion to use when deciding which packages to consider
using on a project.
So,
ve been resting for a long enough period of time to allow me
to subject my wrists to further agony
<https://github.com/smontanaro/python-bits/blob/master/src/watch.py> with
the keyboard and mouse.
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(*) man systemd-sleep contains this admonition:
Note that scripts or binaries dropped in /
> I don't know in Python, but maybe you can create a script that writes
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> https://askubuntu.com/questions/226278/run-script-on-wakeup
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points for something which works on Windows, but that's not a platform
I actually care about.
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watching
So, Tk+asyncio turns out to be fairly easy to do, at least for simple stuff.
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I kind of assume xfce4 is the session manager sort of thing, while
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time (probably twm or fvwm). Now I use fvwm4 and can't find squat
online about configuration files. I do have a ~/.config/xfce4/xfwm4/
directory, but it is completely empty.
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workspace.
Thanks. I'd forgotten about the possibility of doing this sort of thing in
the window manager config. That would certainly be fine in this case. (It's
been ages since I messed with this sort of
d any
examples in the library doc or on the wider net which demonstrate control
of this particular window manager interaction. (I don't care about Windows
or Mac, at least for the time being.)
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out in the wild, but this seems like something which might best be
addressed in either the asyncio or tkinter documentation, or better yet,
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80, not just port 443 (which seems to work okay). Is there some magic
incantation to get it to just talk HTTP on port 80, or will I need to spin
up two instances? (The non-root config works fine - plain old HTTP over
port 8080.)
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x27;t occur to me the transformation would occur on the way
out.
I think another way I might have saved myself was if I was using a modern
IDE where I might have gotten some hints hovering over the method call.
But, I'm an End user. I'm sure there is some add-on package I could
install, but
Cameron> Try decode=True.
Skip> :dopeslap: Thanks. Never been all that consistent reading documentation.
The more I think about it, the more I think maybe my lack of
documentation reading wasn't all that unreasonable. The content
transfer encoding and charset are properties of the m
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Am I expecting too much from the email package when munching on crufty
20+yo archived email messages?
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usable version:
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believes?
https://drewdevault.com/2021/11/16/Python-stop-screwing-distros-over.html
Asking because I've never been in the business of releasing "retail" Python
applications or packages.
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Woo hoo! It's installed. The ultimate error was a missing turbojpeg.h
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that down to the libturbojpeg0-dev package, install that, and after a
bit more fussing around now have jpegdupes installed.
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compare just the data chunk of JPEGs, ignoring the metadata. This program
apparently does that. Is like to avoid reinventing that wheel.
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So, I'm kind of stuck. Maybe I need to install Python 3.3 and try that? Any
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Once I made the switch, things came together pretty quickly, due in large
part, I think, to its more sane API.
YMMV, but you're more than welcome to steal code from Polly.
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either. We just wrote raw opcodes and their arguments on paper. This was in
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to Mailman 3.
I'm sure Mark Sapiro and other Mailman maintainers would like to keep
moving away from Mailman 2. If the gateway (easier anonymity) and
Mailman 3 (maybe better list archives) are of interest to you, you
might check in with the Mailman dev list and see what would be
involved in portin
tween Usenet and mail. It's
worth considering for people thinking about whether or not to
disconnect the two. (I have no opinion on that subject. Clearly others
do.)
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SpamBayes. All other elements of the tool chain occur ahead of the
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If we are using two different definitions of "moderation" I think it
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conventions after my next edit. I presume vim and all IDEs worth their
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> > > instructions? If not, why it would be different and how would you
> > > achieve that?
> >
> > I have clearly not explained myself very well in the "PEP".
>
> Well, it seems to be written with an idea that a
y pointers
> (with extra dereferencing, but that's a detail). It's unclear why you
> try to ignore them ("cell" registers), putting ahead "locals" and
> "stack" registers. The actual register instructions implementation would
> just treat any frame slot as a register with continuous numbering,
> allowing to access all of locals, cells, and stack locs in the same
> way. In that regard, trying to rearrange 3 groups at this stage seems
> like rather unneeded implementation complexity with no clear motivation.
I haven't even looked at LOAD_DEREF or STORE_DEREF yet. I think that
extra dereferencing will be more than a simple detail though. That
makes the semantics of cell/free slots different than locals/registers
slots (more like globals). If true, then my reordering of the frame
data is worthwhile, I think.
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> Yeah, that is old writing, so is probably less clear (no pun intended)
> than it should be. In frame_dealloc, Py_CLEAR is called for
> stack/register slots instead of just Py_XDECREF. Might not be
> necessary.
Also, the intent is not to change any semantics here. The
implementation of RETURN_VAL
ess clear (no pun intended)
than it should be. In frame_dealloc, Py_CLEAR is called for
stack/register slots instead of just Py_XDECREF. Might not be
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Yes, I remember Parrot. As I understand it their original goal was a
language-agnostic virtual machine, which might have complicated things.
I will do a bit of reading and add some text to the "PEP."
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> That's annoying. You have to roll your own solution!
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Certainly seems like a known issue:
https://bugs.python.org/issue12737
That issue was opened in 2011.
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2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2]
The tests don't pass though. 1 * 1 raises an integer overflow exception:
>>> 1 * 1
Unhandled exception: run-time error: integer overflow
Stack backtrace (innermost last):
File "", line 1
I'll let someone figure that out. :-)
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> Wow. Was white-space not significant in this release of Python? I see the
>> lack of indentation in the first Python programs.
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> Indentation most certainly was significant from day 0. I suspect what
> happened is that these files got busted somehow by the extrac
h the original files, a small
README file and a compile.patch file between the original code and the
runnable code.
It was a pleasant diversion for a couple hours. I was tired of shovelling
snow anyway... Thank you, Hiromi.
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dump would l.o.o.k.
> .l.i.k.e. .t.h.i.s.
>
Ah, right. Been a long, long while (well before Unicode was a thing) since
I needed to use od(1) and don't remember dealing with UTF-16 before.
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Excellent, thanks. That worked like a charm. Knowing what its called also
allowed me to look up more info.
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know I can simply edit out
those bytes and probably be good-to-go, but I'd prefer not to. What should
I be passing for the encoding?
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That seems easier than the "right" way.
That seems harder than it ought to be. Hopefully I'm just missing
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#x27;s just to deal with exceptions raised by internal data
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[1] https://github.com/smontanaro/polly
[2] https://xkcd.com/936/
[3] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2014-August/827854.html
[4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501
[5] https://pypi.org/project/IMAPClient/
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should have never considered it, I think you might want to
study the output of
import this
Think on the second and last lines in particular.
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Dang... I'm having very incomplete thoughts. Apologies for the multiple
replies when one would have sufficed.
https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.9.html
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generated for every release. It will be less detailed than change logs in
GitHub, but more reader friendly.
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Change logs are kept as part of the source, I believe. Try browsing the
cpython GitHub repo:
https://github.com/python/cpython
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> differences (if any)
so, you might want to provide some more details about
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mlrpc.client.Marshaller.dispatch[decimal.Decimal] = dump_decimal
I used the "ex:" prefix based on this document:
http://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/types.html
YMMV. The tag name understood by the Unmarshaller class doesn't
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gt;> d = decimal.Decimal(3.5)
>>> pickle.dumps(d)
b'\x80\x04\x95!\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x8c\x07decimal\x94\x8c\x07Decimal\x94\x93\x94\x8c\x033.5\x94\x85\x94R\x94.'
That's meant more for serialization of data objects.
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Code generators might
conceivably generate constant comparisons, but they might be able to easily
do constant folding of comparisons themselves.
Two, given that this sort of construct will almost never be found in the
wild, folding constant comparisons in the compiler would increase the
maintenance bu
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> When I run this, my answer is 8 but it should be 336 can some help ._.
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n the computer and send command
> packets to the robot...
Thanks Dennis. My initial thought was that it probably used the turtle
module, but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Seems the "value add"
is just the communication module. I guess I'll pass.
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<https://www.educationalinsights.com/artie-3000-8482-the-coding-robot> for
the tool/toy.
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but if your datetime column is filled with
datetime types, you should be able to append columns to your DataFrame
which correspond to individual components of the datetime instances.
Don't be looking outside of Pandas to Python's time or datetime
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syntax was developed with
the MyPy folks (http://mypy-lang.org/), but I'm not sure what other
tools currently make use of it. Any pointers?
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wikipedia.org/wiki/311_(band)>" to the integer 311 on which
my Python backend obligingly barfed. I eventually had to put in data type
checks for all fields in my back end (my front end already had that sort of
input validation) as I could no longer assume a sentient front end was
handing i
Hmmm... Rename genes, fix Excel, or dump Excel in favor of Python? I know
what my choice would have been. :-)
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that it has something
to do with Emacs's Python mode behavior. Emacs wouldn't know what to do
with spaces in the string, but knows where to put string literals within
the open parens. I'm pretty sure I was doing this before triple quoted
strings existed.
Thankfully, I don't need to mess around with SQL anymore. :-)
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