On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:51 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
> I assure you that I fully understand my ignorance of ...
Robin, donât take this personally, I totally got what you meant.
At the same time, I got a real chuckle out of this line. That beats âarmy
intelligenceâ any day.
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On 2014-01-16 14:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The unicode type in Python 2.x is less-good because:
>
> - it is missing some functionality, e.g. casefold;
Just for the record, str.casefold() wasn't added until 3.3, so
earlier 3.x versions (such as the 3.2.3 that is the default python3
on Debian St
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:51:42 +, Robin Becker wrote:
> On 16/01/2014 00:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> >Or are you saying thatwww.unicode.org is wrong about the definitions
>>> >of Unicode terms?
>> No, I think he is saying that he doesn't know Unicode anywhere near as
>> well as he thinks he
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Robin Becker wrote:
> On 16/01/2014 00:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>
>>> >Or are you saying thatwww.unicode.org is wrong about the definitions of
>>> >Unicode terms?
>>
>> No, I think he is saying that he doesn't know Unicode anywhere near as
>> well as he thinks
On 16/01/2014 00:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>Or are you saying thatwww.unicode.org is wrong about the definitions of
>Unicode terms?
No, I think he is saying that he doesn't know Unicode anywhere near as
well as he thinks he does. The question is, will he cherish his
ignorance, or learn from th
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:00:51 +, Robin Becker wrote:
> so two 'characters' are 3 (or 2 or more) codepoints.
Yes.
> If I want to isolate so called graphemes I need an algorithm even
> for python's unicode
Correct. Graphemes are language dependent, e.g. in Dutch "ij" is usually
a single gra
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:14:38 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:55 AM, wrote:
>> Le mercredi 15 janvier 2014 13:13:36 UTC+1, Ned Batchelder a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> ... more than one codepoint makes up a grapheme ...
>>
>> No
>
> Yes.
> http://www.unicode.org/faq/char_combmark
On 1/15/2014 11:55 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
The fact that unicoders want to take over the meaning of encoding is not
relevant.
I agree with you that 'encoding' should not be limited to 'byte encoding
of a (subset of) unicode characters. For instance, .jpg and .png are
byte encodings of images
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
> The fact that unicoders want to take over the meaning of encoding is not
> relevant.
A virus is a small infectious agent that replicates only inside the
living cells of other organisms. In the context of computing however,
that definition is
On 15/01/2014 17:14, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
I think about these as encodings, because that's what they are
mathematically, logically & practically. I can encode the target grapheme
sequence as a sequence of bytes using a particular 'unicode en
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
> I think about these as encodings, because that's what they are
> mathematically, logically & practically. I can encode the target grapheme
> sequence as a sequence of bytes using a particular 'unicode encoding' eg
> utf8 or a sequence of code
On 15/01/2014 16:28, Travis Griggs wrote:
of a sequence of graphemes I can use either a sequence of bytes or a
sequence of codepoints. They are both encodings of the graphemes; what unicode
says is an encoding doesn't define what encodings are ie mappings from some
source alphabet to a
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:55 AM, wrote:
> Le mercredi 15 janvier 2014 13:13:36 UTC+1, Ned Batchelder a écrit :
>
>>
>> ... more than one codepoint makes up a grapheme ...
>
> No
Yes.
http://www.unicode.org/faq/char_combmark.html
>> In Unicode terms, an encoding is a mapping between codepoints
Le mercredi 15 janvier 2014 13:13:36 UTC+1, Ned Batchelder a écrit :
>
> ... more than one codepoint makes up a grapheme ...
No
> In Unicode terms, an encoding is a mapping between codepoints and bytes.
No
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