Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-31 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message <20100331003241.47fa9...@vulcan.local>, Robert Fendt wrote: > > >> The braces are gone, and with them the holy wars. >> > > Let me start a new one. I would still put in some kind of explicit indicator > of the end of the grouping construct: > > c

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-31 Thread John Nagle
Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Jean-Michel Pichavant: John Nagle wrote: Jonathan Hayward wrote: I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ No, it&

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Mar2010 10:25, Chris Colbert wrote: | not really, the int will eventually overflow and cycle around ;) | | On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Xavier Ho wrote: | | > Did no one notice that | > for(i = 99; i > 0; ++i) | > Gives you an infinite loop (sort of) because i starts a 99, and increase

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Steve Holden
Jonathan Hayward wrote: > I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the > Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: > >http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ > > The basic suggestion is that much of what works well in

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message , Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > This is just unsubstantiated opinion, but worse, it makes a tacit > assumption that there is "best" way to do indentation. However, most > programmers fall into that trap, and I've done it myself. Having used so many different languages over the years, I ha

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In message <20100331003241.47fa9...@vulcan.local>, Robert Fendt wrote: > The braces are gone, and with them the holy wars. Let me start a new one. I would still put in some kind of explicit indicator of the end of the grouping construct: count = 99 while count > 0: print u'%d sl

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Chris Rebert
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Robert Fendt wrote: > And thus spake "Alf P. Steinbach" > Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:40:22 +0200: >> >>  From a usability standpoint, the braces go with the lines to print out the >> stanza rather than the for statement or the code after, so the following is >> best: >

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Robert Fendt
And thus spake "Alf P. Steinbach" Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:40:22 +0200: > > From a usability standpoint, the braces go with the lines to print out the > stanza rather than the for statement or the code after, so the following is > best: > > for(i = 99; i > 0; ++i) > { > printf("%d slabs

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Russ P.
; printf("Send one to abuse and Just Hit Delete,\n"); printf("%d slabs of spam in my mail!\n\n", i + 1); } On Mar 30, 4:40 am, "Alf P. Steinbach" wrote: > * Jean-Michel Pichavant: > > > John Nagle wrote: > >> Jonathan Hayward wrot

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Chris Colbert
gt;> * Jean-Michel Pichavant: >> >>> John Nagle wrote: >>> >>>> Jonathan Hayward wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the >>>>> Python Programming Language Through

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Xavier Ho
ttp://xavierho.com/ On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > * Jean-Michel Pichavant: > >> John Nagle wrote: >> >>> Jonathan Hayward wrote: >>> >>>> I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the >&g

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Jean-Michel Pichavant: John Nagle wrote: Jonathan Hayward wrote: I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ No, it's just a rather ver

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Malte Dik
> Why is it bad ? > Not working code, examples, that are weird to read, and a lot of text :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-30 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
John Nagle wrote: Jonathan Hayward wrote: I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ No, it's just a rather verbose introduction to Python, in

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-29 Thread John Nagle
Jonathan Hayward wrote: I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ No, it's just a rather verbose introduction to Python, in dark brown t

Re: "Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-29 Thread Phlip
Jonathan Hayward wrote: > I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the > Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: > >    http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ > > The basic suggestion is that much of what works well in

"Usability, the Soul of Python"

2010-03-29 Thread Jonathan Hayward
I've posted "Usability, the Soul of Python: An Introduction to the Python Programming Language Through the Eyes of Usability", at: http://JonathansCorner.com/python/ The basic suggestion is that much of what works well in Python has something to do with the usability it off