On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Tony the Tiger wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:58:24 +, alister wrote:
>
>> You can't fall off the floor.
>
> Yes, if the floor it two stories up, and the walls suddenly disappears,
> and there's an earthquake.
That makes me so angry, I think I'll smash that
On 9/04/2014 6:55 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
And the worst thing about terrible code is when you first realise
just how bad it is and wonder why you wrote it like that in the first
place.
For me, it's nearly always due to time constraints. Usually caused by a
comment like: "we absolutely need th
On 08-04-14 15:58, alister wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:47:12 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> On 2014-04-08, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:07 PM, James Brewer wrote:
>>>
Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I find someone
willing to point me in t
On 09/04/2014 01:02, alex23 wrote:
On 9/04/2014 3:29 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
My code would make for terrible PHP. :)
Don't feel bad about that. It's a truism for every language, including PHP.
Yep. And the worst thing about terrible code is when you first realise
just how bad it is and w
On 08/04/2014 21:19, James Brewer wrote:
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Johnson
mailto:rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You're an interesting fellow. Also, I didn't graduate; I dropped out.
try:
print('rr is okay when discussing IDLE or tkinter')
except TrollingError:
prin
On 04/08/2014 08:02 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
I've worked at places where:
Add to that list:
- Some of the programmers really aren't programmers, but the boss just
hasn't figured it out yet.
That was my last job, until said non-programme
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, James Brewer wrote:
> > You're an interesting fellow.
>
> Rick's one of our resident... uhh... characters. Don't take his words to
> heart.
>
> > Also, I didn't graduate; I dropped out.
>
> I dropped out of h
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 20:23:05 Chris Angelico did opine:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Ditto, but make it 65 years in electronics for me.
> >
> >> -People make you feel like an idiot when you ask a question and they
> >> intimidate you so you don't come back and as
On 4/8/2014 12:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/java-shop-politics/
Thank you for posting this. I read several more. I especially found this
interesting:
http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2012/08/26/xwp-vs-jap/
in which he concludes that one ro
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:19 AM, James Brewer wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>>[ a whole lot of typical stuff ]
>
> You're an interesting fellow.
Rick's one of our resident... uhh... characters. Don't take his words to heart.
> Also, I didn't graduate; I dropped
On 9/04/2014 3:29 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
My code would make for terrible PHP. :)
Don't feel bad about that. It's a truism for every language, including PHP.
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On 9/04/2014 5:47 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:07:27 AM UTC-5, James Brewer wrote:
I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance
perceived from this question, but frankly I don't think
that I have anything to learn from my co-workers, which
saddens me because I
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>
> Judging from your childish optimism and bombastic
> expectations that the onerous of scholastic achievements lay
> solely in the prowess of your teacher, i can only conclude
> that you are yet another recent graduate of one of the
> "fine uni
I'm in the Bay Area and I did actually go to a Django meetup yesterday in
SF where there were talks revolving around large-scale Django applications.
It was very informative. :)
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Joel Goldstick wrote:
> Check meetup.com. I live in nyc where there are django, pytho
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:07:27 AM UTC-5, James Brewer wrote:
> I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance
> perceived from this question, but frankly I don't think
> that I have anything to learn from my co-workers, which
> saddens me because I really like to learn and I know that
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> -People are on crazy deadlines and have no time to work with you.
>
>
> -People make you feel like an idiot when you ask a question and they
> intimidate you so you don't come back and ask more.
>
Both of these issues exist; mainly on the pa
> Things I'm interested include contributing to both Python and Django,
> database design and data modeling,
Django is made by people who definitely don't know what they're doing.
https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/MultipleColumnPrimaryKeys
Open the index to any half-decent database design text
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:45 AM, wrote:
>> """ “I’m going to put wings on a [bleep] tank”.
>
> class FairchildA10(...
Ah yes, the Warthog. You might call one ugly, but it'll just call you dead...
ChrisA
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> """ “I’m going to put wings on a [bleep] tank”.
class FairchildA10(...
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On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Now be kind! It's not that Chris' code was bad, but obviously Pike is
> such a rubbish language that it's all but untranslatable...
>
> :-P
Now that's completely not true! Translating Pike into PHP is by
definition easy. Look:
// Pike code
On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 17:19:46 +, alister wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:48:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I managed to convince him to let me use Pike for a lot of the work,
>> though I suspect that - now that we're no longer working together -
>> he's ripping a lot of it out in favour
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:19 AM, alister
wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:48:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I managed to convince him to let me use Pike for a lot of the work,
>> though I suspect that - now that we're no longer working together -
>> he's ripping a lot of it out in favour of ei
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:48:52 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I managed to convince him to let me use Pike for a lot of the work,
> though I suspect that - now that we're no longer working together -
> he's ripping a lot of it out in favour of either PHP or JavaScript.
> And that's a job I wouldn't
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:38:42 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
-People are super patient and helpful and they answer all your
questions and go beyond the call of duty to help you.
>>>
>>> A utopia very few will ever find.
>>
>> In cor
Check meetup.com. I live in nyc where there are django, python groups.
Maybe where you live too
On Apr 8, 2014 12:45 PM, "Steven D'Aprano" <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:38:42 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >>> -People are super patient and helpful and th
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:38:42 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> -People are super patient and helpful and they answer all your
>>> questions and go beyond the call of duty to help you.
>>
>> A utopia very few will ever find.
>
> In corporate, yes, it's rare. But it's a lot less rare in open source
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> He was majorly turned off
>> by the whole thing of significant whitespace and basically just told
>> me "there will be no Python here". Bah.)
>
> I had programmed in perl for 20 years,
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> He was majorly turned off
> by the whole thing of significant whitespace and basically just told
> me "there will be no Python here". Bah.)
I had programmed in perl for 20 years, then got a job at place where
the boss made the edict "There
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Ditto, but make it 65 years in electronics for me.
>
>> -People make you feel like an idiot when you ask a question and they
>> intimidate you so you don't come back and ask more.
>
> That generally only happens a couple times, I am good at mak
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> Or: The boss is a former programmer, perhaps even a very good one, but
> he's not at all involved with the day to day issues, but still wants
> to tell you how to do things.
Heh. The boss was a bit like that at my last job. Kept telling me
st
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 10:52:39 Larry Martell did opine:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:07 AM, James Brewer wrote:
> > I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance perceived
> > from this question, but frankly I don't think that I have anything to
> > learn from my co-workers, which sad
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Larry Martell
> wrote:
>> I've worked at places where:
>
> Add to that list:
>
> - Some of the programmers really aren't programmers, but the boss just
> hasn't figured it out yet.
>
> That was my last job,
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
> I've worked at places where:
Add to that list:
- Some of the programmers really aren't programmers, but the boss just
hasn't figured it out yet.
That was my last job, until said non-programmer decided to quit.
ChrisA
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On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:07 AM, James Brewer wrote:
> I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance perceived from this
> question, but frankly I don't think that I have anything to learn from my
> co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and I know that
> I have a lo
On 4/8/14 2:07 AM, James Brewer wrote:
I don't think that I have anything to learn
from my co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and
I know that I have a lot of learning to do.
Give it time. The first thing that must happen is relationship
building. Initially its about
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:07 AM, James Brewer wrote:
> I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance perceived from
> this question, but frankly I don't think that I have anything to learn from
> my co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and I know
> that I have a l
On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:47:12 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-04-08, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:07 PM, James Brewer wrote:
>>
>>> Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I find someone
>>> willing to point me in the right direction and what can I offer in
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> You'll get genneraly get answers to:
> [chomp]
and the question "Did I spell everything correctly?", to which the
answer is generally "No". :)
ChrisA
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On 2014-04-08, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:07 PM, James Brewer wrote:
>
>> Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I find someone
>> willing to point me in the right direction and what can I offer in
>> return?
>
> Right here on this list! And all you have to off
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:07 PM, James Brewer wrote:
> Basically, I want to be a better engineer. Where can I find someone willing
> to point me in the right direction and what can I offer in return?
>
Right here on this list! And all you have to offer in return is
interesting questions. You ask t
I'm sure there will be a substantial amount of arrogance perceived from
this question, but frankly I don't think that I have anything to learn from
my co-workers, which saddens me because I really like to learn and I know
that I have a lot of learning to do.
I've been employed as a software engine
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