Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-04 Thread alister
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:02:04 -0500, William Ray Wing wrote: >> On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:20 PM, alister wrote: >> >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:03:55 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister >>> wrote: On Thu, 03

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Gregory Ewing : > Mass on its own is not a conserved quantity. The thing that's > conserved is total energy. Similarly, momentum is conserved. Whether mass is conserved or not depends on the chosen terminology. > As far as I know, there are no negative masses

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Gregory Ewing
alister wrote: On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:03:55 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister wrote: Antimatter has positive mass. Are you sure? mix 1 atom of hydrogen + 1 of anti hydrogen & you end up with 0 mass That's not because

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread William Ray Wing
> On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:20 PM, alister wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:03:55 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:35:12 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: 1) No physical

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:20 PM, alister wrote: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:03:55 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:35:12 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: 1) No physical

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread alister
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:03:55 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister > wrote: >> On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:35:12 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> 1) No physical object can have negative mass. >>> 2) I am a part of the universe and have positive

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:21 AM, alister wrote: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:35:12 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: >> 1) No physical object can have negative mass. >> 2) I am a part of the universe and have positive mass. >> 3) I am not Kenneth. >> 4) The sum of my mass and

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread alister
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:35:12 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> We can be absolutely certain that Kenneth weighs less than the entire >> universe. We don't even need a set of scales. > > Formal proof: > > 1) No

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/03/2016 03:57, Rustom Mody wrote: On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:59:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote: And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight to be the weight of the universe? Is that a trick question?

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 02:57 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: > William Blake starts Auguries of Innocence with: > > To see a world in a grain of sand, > And a heaven in a wild flower, > Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, > And eternity in an hour. > > Reading the whole at

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 23:29:43 + Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 29/02/2016 22:40, Larry Martell wrote: >> I think for the most part, the mental health industry is most >> interested in pushing drugs and forcing people into some status quo. > I am disgusted by your

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mar 2, 2016 9:01 PM, "Rustom Mody" wrote: > > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:59:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > > > And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight > > > to be the

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:59:13 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight > > to be the weight of the universe? > > Is that a trick question? > > "How is a raven like a

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > We can be absolutely certain that Kenneth weighs less than the entire > universe. We don't even need a set of scales. Formal proof: 1) No physical object can have negative mass. 2) I am a part of the universe and have

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:02 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > And how is [1]'s starting different from Kenneth's finding his weight > to be the weight of the universe? Is that a trick question? "How is a raven like a writing desk?" "Neither of them are made of cheese cake." We can be absolutely certain

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-02 Thread Rustom Mody
On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 10:36:02 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 04:08 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > And who is the last arbiter on that 'reality'? > > I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a genuine question, and > not just an attempt to ask a

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 04:08 am, Rustom Mody wrote: > And who is the last arbiter on that 'reality'? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this is a genuine question, and not just an attempt to ask a rhetorical question to demonstrate your profundity. You should not assume that there is any

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-01 Thread Sven R. Kunze
On 01.03.2016 13:13, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:38 am, Larry Martell wrote: But what is reality? Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. Just like that. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-03-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:38 am, Larry Martell wrote: > But what is reality? Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Mario R. Osorio
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 4:39:12 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his recent recovery from a > MentalHealthError exception. > > http://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/mentalhealtherror-an-exception-occurred > > Although the connection to

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/29/2016 04:35 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: The story reminded me of "A Beautiful Mind" by Sylvia Nasar, about mathematician John Nash who suffered from mental illness in the 1970s-80's(?) but later recovered and won the Nobel Prize in economics. The book is excellent and I recommend it if you

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Paul Rubin
Ben Finney writes: >> "All that he had learned" meaning his delusions and psychoses? > Indeed. If a revelation is unconnected to reality, it's misleading to > say that one has “learned” it > When someone describes the ill effects their mental illness produced, I >

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 29/02/2016 22:40, Larry Martell wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ben Finney >> wrote: >> >>> Rustom Mody writes: >>> >>> On Monday, February 29,

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 29/02/2016 22:40, Larry Martell wrote: On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Rustom Mody writes: On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:26:32 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: Ian Kelly writes: On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM,

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Rustom Mody writes: > >> On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:26:32 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: >> > Ian Kelly writes: >> > >> > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: >>

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Ian Kelly writes: > >> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell >> wrote: >> > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I >> > don't

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell > wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 11:04:20 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > Rustom Mody writes: > > > On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:26:32 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Ian Kelly writes: > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > > > > > I found this to be a

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Ben Finney
Rustom Mody writes: > On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:26:32 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > > Ian Kelly writes: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > > > > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I > > > > don't

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 10:26:32 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote: > Ian Kelly writes: > > > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > > > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I > > > don't think they needed to drug him, and take all that he had

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Kelly writes: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell > wrote: > > I found this to be a very sad story. Sure, he had some issues, but I > > don't think they needed to drug him, and take all that he had > > learned away from him and

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:21 AM, Larry Martell wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his recent recovery from a >> MentalHealthError exception. >> >>

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-29 Thread Larry Martell
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his recent recovery from a > MentalHealthError exception. > > http://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/mentalhealtherror-an-exception-occurred > > Although the connection to

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-27 Thread Jason Friedman
Yes, thank you for sharing. Stories from people we know, or know of, leads to normalization: mental illness is a routine illness like Type I diabetes or appendicitis. On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-27 Thread Ethan Furman
On 02/27/2016 01:37 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Although the connection to Python is only quite slim, I found it fascinating to read. Thanks to you and Kenneth for sharing that. -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/02/2016 09:37, Steven D'Aprano wrote: The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his recent recovery from a MentalHealthError exception. http://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/mentalhealtherror-an-exception-occurred Although the connection to Python is only quite slim, I found it

[Off-topic] Requests author discusses MentalHealthError exception

2016-02-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
The author of Requests, Kenneth Reitz, discusses his recent recovery from a MentalHealthError exception. http://www.kennethreitz.org/essays/mentalhealtherror-an-exception-occurred Although the connection to Python is only quite slim, I found it fascinating to read. -- Steven --