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Dnia 23-05-2011 o 10:29:24 Piotr Kamiński
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Dnia 23-05-2011 o 00:58:55 Brendan Simon (eTRIX)
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Take a look at Cobra.
http://cobra-language.com/docs/pytho
Paul Rubin wrote:
Haskell probably has the most vibrant development community at
the moment but its learning curve is quite steep, and it has
various shortcomings some of which are being worked on but others
of which may be insurmountable.
Yes. You might want to lurk on:
http://lambda-the-u
John Lee writes:
> In this thread, I'm asking about the views of Python programmers on
> languages other than Python.
I sympathize with what you're looking for but I don't think there's
a really good answer at this time. Things IMO are converging in the
direction of functional languages like H
On May 23, 7:04 pm, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Falcon seems to collect programming paradigms the way Perl
> collects language features, i.e. by just munging them all
> together and bending parts until they fit.
Not that i am picking on anyone here...
but...
Why is okay to rip apart Perl with jagged
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:11:40 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
...until you want to read someone *else's* code, that is.
The same might be said about Python, which supports procedural, OO and
functional styles out of the box.
But it only uses *one* syntax and core set of c
On 21/05/2011 16:49, John J Lee wrote:
I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
things I don't like.
..
a relatively new one that's going about is cobra, http://cobra-language.com/, it
appears to have some of the features you indicate eg speed, some kind of
int
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> And presumably anyone who has played around with GUI programming in
> Python will have run into message oriented coding.
>
GUI code almost always involves a main loop somewhere that consists of:
while not time_to_terminate:
get_message()
On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:11:40 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
> Ed Keith wrote:
>> Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)?
>
> This paragraph on the first page doesn't exactly fire me with enthuiasm:
>
>> Falcon provides six integrated programming paradigms: procedural,
>> object orient
Ed Keith wrote:
Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)?
This paragraph on the first page doesn't exactly fire
me with enthuiasm:
Falcon provides six integrated programming paradigms: procedural, object
oriented, prototype oriented, functional, tabular and message oriented. And y
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 4:33 AM, John Lee wrote:
> Pylint? Does it provide some kind of guessed-at-type that has been integrated
> with IDEs?
WingIDE Pro has both Pylint integration and advanced type-guessing.
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On 23/05/11 7:17 AM, python-list-requ...@python.org wrote:
> Subject:
> Re: Abandoning Python
> From:
> John Lee
> Date:
> Sun, 22 May 2011 21:13:44 + (UTC)
>
>
>> >
>> > Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a
John Lee pobox.com> writes:
[...]
> That's interesting, thanks. I see this is a different pylint than the old
> logilab pylint. Unfortunate choice of name, since it makes it hard to find
> IDE integration work that's already done.
Hmm, I see the last release was in 2003 :-(
John
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Ed Keith yahoo.com> writes:
>
> Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a lot
> of what you are looking for.
I'm more interested in other people's opinions than my own "looking for"s.
What *should* I be looking for (other than Python itself)? What's interesting,
Dan Stromberg gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> Pylint does type inferencing - I find it very valuable on large projects, and
> even some not-so-large projects.I doubt Pylint's been integrated into any
> IDE's,
[...]
That's interesting, thanks. I see this is a different pylint than the old
logilab py
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, John Lee wrote:
> Dan Stromberg gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, John J Lee pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
> > things I don't like.
> > What are your favourite up-and-comin
Have you looked at Falcon (http://www.falconpl.org/)? It seems to have a lot of
what you are looking for. I do not have much experience with it but I like what
I've seen so far, except that there are not any third party tools or libraries
libraries. Which is where Python shines.
-EdK
Ed Kei
Stefan Behnel behnel.de> writes:
>
> John J Lee, 22.05.2011 17:58:
> > Daniel Kluev writes:
> >> Also, most of these complaints could be solved by using correct python
> >> dialect for particular task - RPython, Cython and so on.
> >
> > Different topic.
>
> Why?
The intended focus was "things
John J Lee, 22.05.2011 17:58:
Daniel Kluev writes:
Also, most of these complaints could be solved by using correct python
dialect for particular task - RPython, Cython and so on.
Different topic.
Why?
Stefan
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Dan Stromberg gmail.com> writes:
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, John J Lee pobox.com> wrote:
>
> I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
> things I don't like.
> What are your favourite up-and-coming languages of the moment?
> Here's my wishlist (not really in an
Bill Allen gmail.com> writes:
> You have ideas, a text editor, and a computer - best get to coding.
> What's stopping you? You largely want Python, with modifications.
> Join the development team and help implement those changes, or fork
> your own flavor and do what you wish. Right? You imag
Daniel Kluev writes:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:49 AM, John J Lee wrote:
>> Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):
>
> How come pony is not listed there? Language cannot be better than
> python without pony!
Pony, absolutely. I took that as read.
>> * An even larger user base, contr
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Daniel Kluev wrote:
> Also, most of these complaints could be solved by using correct python
> dialect for particular task - RPython, Cython and so on.
>
Cython is an interesting dialect that I use now and then.
RPython is probably just as well avoided. PyPy, w
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:00 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>
> A language I want to give a serious try the coming months is Haskell.
>
> Haskell is indeed interesting.
However, do any of Haskell's implementations exploit the opportunities for
parallelism that Haskell's definition allows?
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On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, John J Lee wrote:
>
>
> I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
> things I don't like.
>
> What are your favourite up-and-coming languages of the moment?
>
> Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):
>
> * A widely used standard f
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Daniel Kluev wrote:
> According to all language popularity indexes [1-10], C# and
Forgot to include references, although everyone probably already knows them,
[1] https://www.ohloh.net/languages?query=&sort=projects
[2] http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/pap
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:49 AM, John J Lee wrote:
> Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):
How come pony is not listed there? Language cannot be better than
python without pony!
> * An even larger user base, contributing more and better free and
> commercial software.
According to al
You have ideas, a text editor, and a computer - best get to coding. What's
stopping you? You largely want Python, with modifications. Join the
development team and help implement those changes, or fork your own flavor
and do what you wish. Right? You imagine it's an easy task, so get after
John J Lee writes:
>
>
> I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
> things I don't like.
>
> What are your favourite up-and-coming languages of the moment?
>
> Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):
>
> * A widely used standard for (optional) interface declarat
I still like Python after using it for over a decade, but there are
things I don't like.
What are your favourite up-and-coming languages of the moment?
Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):
* A widely used standard for (optional) interface declaration -- or
something better. I wan
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