Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Maric Michaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Monday 15 September 2008 16:45:12 Maric Michaud, vous avez écrit : > > This is not sufficient for auto-responses, and given the following > > rfcs, it would smart to both : > > > ... > > - add or modify the Return-Path and/or Reply-To header for badly

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-16 Thread Maric Michaud
Le Monday 15 September 2008 16:45:12 Maric Michaud, vous avez écrit : > This is not sufficient for auto-responses, and given the following rfcs, it > would smart to both : > ... > - add or modify the Return-Path and/or Reply-To header for badly > implemented auto-responders to point to list maintai

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread MRAB
Pointless, because the > > sender can't do anything to fix the problem he's being notified about. > > And counter-productive, because it is an anti-feature, something that > > makes the mailing list more unpleasant and less useful. Anyone who has > > regularly emai

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Matt Nordhoff
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2008-09-12, Matt Nordhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think you misunderstand. He's referring to the Sender >> header, not the From header. The messages the listbot sends >> out have a Sender header of >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (supposing >> the subscriber's email addr

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-12, Matt Nordhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you misunderstand. He's referring to the Sender > header, not the From header. The messages the listbot sends > out have a Sender header of > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (supposing > the subscriber's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Bou

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Matt Nordhoff
the sender works well when sending email to individuals, but for mailing > lists it is pointless and counter-productive. Pointless, because the > sender can't do anything to fix the problem he's being notified about. > And counter-productive, because it is an anti-feature, someth

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
ix the problem he's being notified about. And counter-productive, because it is an anti-feature, something that makes the mailing list more unpleasant and less useful. Anyone who has regularly emailed to a large mailing list has surely experienced the frustration of receiving bounce messages

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-11, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:36:36 -0500, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > > >> Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce >> mess

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing > my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the > headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce > messages? > > While you'

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-11, Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > >>> > The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the original. >>> >>> Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nor do I believe that by posting a news message I've automatically > consented to receive email messages. To imply that the one implies the > other is equivalent to arguing that because I've written a letter to the > editor of a newspaper, I therefo

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven D'Aprano wrote: I wasn't aware that comp.lang.python was a news-to-mail gateway. How can one tell the difference between news groups that use a news-to-mail gateway, and news groups that don't? by reading the group's FAQ, perhaps? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/python-faq/python-newsgroup-f

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: >> > The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the original. >> >> Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce messages? > > You asked for email to be sent, by sending a Usenet po

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Ben Finney
and e-mailing them out please fix the > >> headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce > >> messages? > > > > The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the > > original. > > Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Grant Edwards
sages so that I don't get the bounce >> messages? > > The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the > original. Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce messages? Isn't sending e-mails pretending they're from somebody else considered

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Ben Finney
Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing > my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the > headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce > messages? The bounce messages are

Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Grant Edwards
Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce messages? While you're at it, might as well fix it for everybody else too. ;) Its a bit rude t

Bounce messages

2006-01-17 Thread Grant Edwards
Whould whoever is gatewaying c.l.p postings to a mailing list _please_ remove the return addresses on the postings so we don't have to put up with bounce messages everytime we post? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Everywhere I look