Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-16 Thread metawilm
Paul Rubin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > a = 'hello' > > > a[0] = 'H' # attempt to change first letter to upper case > > > > As CLPython mirrors Python semantics, this results in a TypeError. The > > internal rep

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-15 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > a = 'hello' > > a[0] = 'H' # attempt to change first letter to upper case > > As CLPython mirrors Python semantics, this results in a TypeError. The > internal representation of an immutable Python string is a mutable L

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-15 Thread metawilm
Paul Rubin wrote: > I thought it was of some interest though I'm a little surprise by the > choice of CL rather than Scheme as a target. In many aspects Python is a subset of CL. In CLPython, exceptions are Lisp conditions with a custom metaclass (strictly spoken not portable CL), P

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-15 Thread Paul Boddie
Lisp rather than C may be enticing, but one returns to the "why write anything other than Lisp" argument at this point. There may be an argument for having CLPython as an embedded application scripting language, but again the Lisp camp have often advocated Lisp for that role, too. >

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-15 Thread greg
if you could then compile the Lisp and get a lean, efficient binary executable out of it. But that's going to require much more than just a straightforward translation from Python to Lisp. If CLPython starts to show signs of making progress in that direction, then it could start to get interest

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Rubin
ought it was of some interest though I'm a little surprise by the choice of CL rather than Scheme as a target. I'm still not sure about the mapping of Python strings to Lisp strings. What happens with the following in CLPython? a = 'hello' a[0] = 'H' # attempt t

Re: CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-14 Thread Willem Broekema
Paul Boddie wrote: > What would it take to get Python people more interested in it? I've > been monitoring the site [1] and the mailing list [2] for some time, > but nothing particularly visible seems to be happening. Well, judging from the reactions on blogs to the initial announcement here, quit

CLPython (was Re: merits of Lisp vs Python)

2006-12-13 Thread Paul Boddie
entations (albeit a contentious one). > CLPython is not a dead and abandoned project, nor is execution speed > its main goal, nor are Python semantics bended anywhere (it can run > the Pie-thon benchmark). Sure, some recently introduced language > features are missing, but with just a little

CLPython

2006-07-05 Thread bearophileHUGS
Just found: http://trac.common-lisp.net/clpython/ Bye, bearophile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list