Re: doubt About import machine

2021-11-21 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Daniel Eduardo Almeida Correa writes: > Hello, I'm trying to use the machine library in python 3.10 version, but I > can't import it with the pip install machine, could you tell me a way to > solve it or a python version compatible with the library? Thank you a lot > for your answer. The

Re: doubt About import machine

2021-11-21 Thread MRAB
On 2021-11-21 18:36, Daniel Eduardo Almeida Correa wrote: Hello, I'm trying to use the machine library in python 3.10 version, but I can't import it with the pip install machine, could you tell me a way to solve it or a python version compatible with the library? Thank you a lot for your

doubt About import machine

2021-11-21 Thread Daniel Eduardo Almeida Correa
Hello, I'm trying to use the machine library in python 3.10 version, but I can't import it with the pip install machine, could you tell me a way to solve it or a python version compatible with the library? Thank you a lot for your answer. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Doubt in line_profiler documentation

2018-01-27 Thread Alain Ketterlin
Abhiram R writes: [...] > https://github.com/rkern/line_profiler > > The definition for the time column says - > > "Time: The total amount of time spent executing the line in the timer's > units. In the header information before the tables, you will see a line > 'Timer

Doubt in line_profiler documentation

2018-01-26 Thread Abhiram R
​I'm having trouble understanding something in the ​documentation of https://github.com/rkern/line_profiler The definition for the time column says - "Time: The total amount of time spent executing the line in the timer's units. In the header information before the tables, you will see a line

Re: Doubt with files

2017-02-14 Thread Peter Pearson
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:13:48 -0800 (PST), José Manuel Suárez Sierra wrote: > hello, > im trying to read a rtf or txt file with this python script: > > with open(dirFichero,'r') as reader: > for line in reader: > print line > > the problem is that shown is : [suppressing blank lines]

Re: Doubt with files

2017-02-14 Thread boB Stepp
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Joaquin Alzola wrote: > >>with open(dirFichero,'r') as reader: > > for line in reader: > > print line >> >>the problem is that shown is : >>{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1504\cocoasubrtf810 >>{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0

Re: Doubt with files

2017-02-14 Thread boB Stepp
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:13 AM, José Manuel Suárez Sierra wrote: > hello, > im trying to read a rtf or txt file with this python script: > > with open(dirFichero,'r') as reader: > for line in reader: > print line > > the problem is that shown is : > >

RE: Doubt with files

2017-02-14 Thread Joaquin Alzola
>with open(dirFichero,'r') as reader: > for line in reader: > print line > >the problem is that shown is : >{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1504\cocoasubrtf810 >{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} >{\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;} >{\*\expandedcolortbl;;}

Doubt with files

2017-02-14 Thread José Manuel Suárez Sierra
hello, im trying to read a rtf or txt file with this python script: with open(dirFichero,'r') as reader: for line in reader: print line the problem is that shown is : {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1504\cocoasubrtf810 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;}

Re: doubt loading pages

2017-02-01 Thread Peter Otten
José Manuel Suárez Sierra wrote: > El miércoles, 1 de febrero de 2017, 11:55:11 (UTC+1), José Manuel Suárez > Sierra escribió: >> hello everyone, >> Im trying to make a program that takes an archive from pdb (for instance >> this link http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/fasta.txt?structureIdList=5HXY

Re: doubt loading pages

2017-02-01 Thread José Manuel Suárez Sierra
El miércoles, 1 de febrero de 2017, 11:55:11 (UTC+1), José Manuel Suárez Sierra escribió: > hello everyone, > Im trying to make a program that takes an archive from pdb (for instance this > link http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/fasta.txt?structureIdList=5HXY > > after reading it I want it to save

Re: doubt loading pages

2017-02-01 Thread Peter Otten
José Manuel Suárez Sierra wrote: > hello everyone, > Im trying to make a program that takes an archive from pdb (for instance > this link http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/fasta.txt?structureIdList=5HXY > > after reading it I want it to save in a list only this part of the > archive: > >

doubt loading pages

2017-02-01 Thread José Manuel Suárez Sierra
hello everyone, Im trying to make a program that takes an archive from pdb (for instance this link http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/files/fasta.txt?structureIdList=5HXY after reading it I want it to save in a list only this part of the archive:

Re: Doubt with matrix

2017-01-12 Thread Peter Otten
José Manuel Suárez Sierra wrote: > Hello, I want to go over matrix indexs with this code: > def comparador2(a, b): > c3 = ["0"] # variables > x = -1 # contador de letras aniadidas a c3 > i = 0 # contador bucle secuencia a > j = 0 # contador bucle secuencia b > l1 = len(a)

Re: Doubt with matrix

2017-01-12 Thread Bob Gailer
Always Post the entire traceback. That will show us the line of code that raised the error, as well as the sequence of function calls involved. On Jan 12, 2017 11:10 AM, "José Manuel Suárez Sierra" < josemsuarezsie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, I want to go over matrix indexs with this code: >

Doubt with matrix

2017-01-12 Thread José Manuel Suárez Sierra
Hello, I want to go over matrix indexs with this code: def comparador2(a, b): c3 = ["0"] # variables x = -1 # contador de letras aniadidas a c3 i = 0 # contador bucle secuencia a j = 0 # contador bucle secuencia b l1 = len(a) l2 = len(b) cont = [] # contador de

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Loren Wilton
Honestly, the best implementation strategy I can think of is to first implement a Python interpreter for the actual mainframe environment. Then invent an RPC layer that can semi-transparently bridge the two for when you want to call a module that only exists in the Windows environment (or call

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread mr . puneet . goyal
Let me rephrase my question in other way. class myClass: def __init__(self, var): self.var = var myObj = myClass(abc) # I am calling instance with function name and arguments myObj func1 arg1 arg2 Can i associate any function like __init__ with instance ? Means if I just use

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Random832
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016, at 19:27, Loren Wilton wrote: > So I don't want to WRITE a Python interpreter for the actual mainframe > environment. I want to use an interpreter for an existing environment > (Windows) where there are already a lot of existing libraries. But > since a lot of the data to be

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread mr . puneet . goyal
Well I jump from TCL to Python. And found that it was very convenient to use Procs there. So I was looking for that luxury in Python. I am not trying to reinvent the wheel. I was just curious to know if there is any possibility to create a caller function in my way (TCL) where I can call

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Paul Rubin
"Loren Wilton" writes: > strength of Python is that there are many existing 3rd party libraries > that do lots of useful things. Since a lot of them are distributed as > binaries, they would not work in this mainframe environment. Python libraries are usually available

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Loren Wilton
Oops, apologies for replying to the wrong thread! Loren -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread BartC
On 06/10/2016 18:06, mr.puneet.go...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I just started learning python. Is there any way to call functions in different way ? Rather calling obj.function(arg1, arg2) I would like to call like below "obj function arg1 arg2" As has been pointed out, it's difficult to tell

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Loren Wilton
[Cue the decades-old story about the elaborate set of C macros that I once saw somebody using so he could write a C program that looked like some flavor of structured BASIC.] I once wrote a set pf C defines so that I could compile Pascal with a C compiler without having to change the Pascal

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-10-06, Steve D'Aprano wrote: > The only way to do this will be to write your own pre-processor, which will > parse your source code, and translate it from your language to valid > Python. That's a lot of work for very little value -- I recommend you just >

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Steve D'Aprano
On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 04:06 am, mr.puneet.go...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi > > I just started learning python. Is there any way to call functions in > different way ? > > Rather calling obj.function(arg1, arg2) I would like to call like below > > "obj function arg1 arg2" No. This will be a syntax

Re: A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread Peter Otten
mr.puneet.go...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi > > I just started learning python. Is there any way to call functions in > different way ? > > Rather calling obj.function(arg1, arg2) I would like to call like below > > "obj function arg1 arg2" How would the machine reading the above know that you

A newbie doubt on methods/functions calling

2016-10-06 Thread mr . puneet . goyal
Hi I just started learning python. Is there any way to call functions in different way ? Rather calling obj.function(arg1, arg2) I would like to call like below "obj function arg1 arg2" this function is part of a class. class myClass: def function(arg1, arg2): # do something

Re: [OT] A doubt about a doubt

2016-04-14 Thread Peter Otten
Rustom Mody wrote: > I have a doubt: > Is it incorrect to correct someone when they are incorrect? No doubt about it. Everyone's a winner... > [Sprinkle a "politically" on the above to taste ] Ah, contradictio in adiecto. That shifts it to definitely maybe. -- http

Re: [OT] A doubt about a doubt, was Re: How to XOR a byte output?

2016-04-13 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 10:30:07 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Otten wrote: > alister wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 06:18:22 -0700, durgadevi1 wrote: > > > >> I have a doubt regarding a problem. > >> > > No, you have a question doubt means you

[OT] A doubt about a doubt, was Re: How to XOR a byte output?

2016-04-13 Thread Peter Otten
alister wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 06:18:22 -0700, durgadevi1 wrote: > >> I have a doubt regarding a problem. >> > No, you have a question doubt means you don't believe something > (sorry I know this is not an English language lesson) "doubt" is commonly us

Re: A newbie's doubt

2016-01-07 Thread Aaron Christensen
That's an awesome response! On Jan 7, 2016 6:35 AM, "Chris Angelico" wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Henrique Correa wrote: > > Is Python's Tutorial (by Guido) a good and complete reference for the > > language? I mean, after reading it, should I

Re: A newbie's doubt

2016-01-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Henrique Correa wrote: > Is Python's Tutorial (by Guido) a good and complete reference for the > language? I mean, after reading it, should I have a good basis on Python? > > I've came from js and php, and already know the very basics of py. > >

A newbie's doubt

2016-01-07 Thread Henrique Correa
Is Python's Tutorial (by Guido) a good and complete reference for the language? I mean, after reading it, should I have a good basis on Python? I've came from js and php, and already know the very basics of py. Thank you! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A newbie's doubt

2016-01-07 Thread Paulo da Silva
Às 03:20 de 07-01-2016, Henrique Correa escreveu: > Is Python's Tutorial (by Guido) a good and complete reference for the > language? Good yes. Complete no. I mean, after reading it, should I have a good basis on Python? Yes if you know how to program on another language. > HTH Paulo --

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be mailto:antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me instead of me asking them in english? Or can I

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This is the subset that is generally taught. Especially to those for whom the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This is the subset that is

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages contain

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 27-11-13 09:36, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: However that second sentence doesn't

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: Classic Rick Rant And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his ears)? And to my (Indian!!)

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:02:54 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote: [Last line cut-off by mistake!] It is my impression that the arguments that happen in/around programming languages are more-heat-less-light than in typical art/science because artistic questions masquerade as

Re: Still off topic. Deal with it. [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-27 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
Steven D'Aprano writes: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Although i would strongly prefer for him to choose ubiquitous definitions *over* regional definitions when posting to internet forums, i would have happily ignored this thread had it not been for Stevens

Re: Completely and utterly Off Topic [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:18:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: [...] A new home-run record! What is this home-run of which you speak? Houses don't generally run. Surely you're not using a regional idiom outside of your

Re: Completely and utterly Off Topic [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:47 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:18:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: [...] A new home-run record! What is this home-run of which you speak? Houses don't

Re: Completely and utterly Off Topic [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
* we can understand why the words question and doubt should NEVER be used interchangeably. Now Rick, I know that you're a speaker of a regional variation of English, so you might not be familiar with the standard meanings of the word doubt in English, including: 3. A point about which one

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/11/2013 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be mailto:antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/26/13 11:24 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:11:54 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: Rick, through all the verbiage, I've lost track of what you are advocating. The OP asks a question and uses the word doubt in a way that is unusual to you and many other, though

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Paul Rudin
rusi rustompm...@gmail.com writes: Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity is a language with the property that programs are guaranteed to terminate.

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 08:31, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages contain a subset that is called the standard

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be mailto:antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 27 November 2013 07:44:18 rusi did opine: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: Classic Rick Rant And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we are all of us speaking

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:27:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Rotwang
as the doubt/question distinction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVzwJ6WWlHAt=5m06s -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 13:29, rusi wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:27:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote: rusi rustompm...@gmail.com writes: Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity is a language with the property that programs are

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:39:37 PM UTC+5:30, Larry wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: rusi writes: Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity is a language with the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:09:37 -0500, Larry Martell wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote: rusi rustompm...@gmail.com writes: Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/27/13 8:18 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 27 November 2013 07:44:18 rusi did opine: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: Classic Rick Rant And will you be here to explain to time-travelling

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote: And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his ears)? And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says 'plank in the eye' where King James says 'beam' it does not cut it. Well, would

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:55:12 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Chase wrote: On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote: And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his ears)? And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says 'plank

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread alex23
On 27/11/2013 7:12 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: However that there is no perfect solution doesn't imply we can't expect some effort from those with english as a mother tongue to search for ways in which to express themselves that are more likely to be understood by those who had to learn english as

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article l764gb$5k5$1...@dont-email.me, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/2013 7:12 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: However that there is no perfect solution doesn't imply we can't expect some effort from those with english as a mother tongue to search for ways in which to express

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-27 20:08, Roy Smith wrote: How do you expect people to know they're using a local idiom? Look it up in Urban Dictionary and Bob's your uncle. I thought that's how one could tell if it was an *inappropriate* idiom. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised that Bob's your uncle doesn't

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/25/13 10:33 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:10:04 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language and philosophy now. Hello Ned. I respect the fact that you want to keep threads on-topic, and i greatly appreciate the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.3219.1385452076.18130.python-l...@python.org, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And that includes idiom use. We live in an

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say, effort to be understandable, what you're really saying is, everybody should be just like me. Unfortunately, that's not

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Alister
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say, effort to be understandable, what you're really saying is,

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 26-11-13 15:37, Roy Smith schreef: In article mailman.3219.1385452076.18130.python-l...@python.org, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be wrote: So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 10:49:07 Alister did opine: On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say,

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Delaney
On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.bewrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me instead of me asking them in english? Or can I use literal translations of dutch idioms even if I suspect that such a literal

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Rick Johnson
OF DEMONIC EMOTIONAL DISTRESS IS A NOBLE PURSUIT, HOWEVER, SANCTIONING THE ILLOGICAL DISCOMBOBULATION OF DEFINED WORDS FROM THEIR UBIQUITOUS DEFINITIONS CAN BE NOTHING LESS THAN ILLOGICAL SUICIDE BY EMOTION. Now... *hopefully* we can understand why the words question and doubt should

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-26 Thread Ned Batchelder
why the words question and doubt should NEVER be used interchangeably. But for those of you who still seek coddling, read on... When you say, effort to be understandable, what you're really saying is, everybody should be just like me

Completely and utterly Off Topic [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
a question, we immediately assume that they are not confused, and have no concern at all. [...] Now... *hopefully* we can understand why the words question and doubt should NEVER be used interchangeably. Now Rick, I know that you're a speaker of a regional variation of English, so you might

Still off topic. Deal with it. [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Although i would strongly prefer for him to choose ubiquitous definitions *over* regional definitions when posting to internet forums, i would have happily ignored this thread had it not been for Stevens emotional plea of: As this

Re: Completely and utterly Off Topic [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: I completely sniglim with what you are saying. I'd go further and state that, without exception, your argument is the most vumtigious I've ever seen, and if there were any justice in the world, people would follow you

Re: Still off topic. Deal with it. [was Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !]

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Pop Quiz Your driving your car down the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-23, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? The codes are:

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-23, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote: Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This is a text newsgroup, not html. Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. An exclamation mark is a yellow flag, and three should definitly route

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:25:57 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-11-23, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote: Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This is a text newsgroup, not html. Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. An

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:38:47 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Where do you, an American, What the hell makes you believe I'm an American? Because i speak fluent English? Because i embrace capitalism? Because i wish to be free of tyranny? Well, if that's all it takes to be an American,

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? The codes are: 1)

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Joel Goldstick
I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that dialect it is grammatically correct to say the codes, just as in UK and US English it is grammatically correct to say the programs. In other words, in UK/US English, code in the sense of programming code is an uncountable

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:32:12 PM UTC-5, Rick Johnson wrote: On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:38:47 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Where do you, an American, What the hell makes you believe I'm an American? Because i speak fluent English? Because i embrace capitalism? Because i

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 11/25/2013 11:53 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances for slight difference in dialect. I don't see how that follows. I would say on the contrary. This being an international forum

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Gregory Ewing
Ned Batchelder wrote: Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language and philosophy now. Philosophy is totally on topic for this group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gJamguN04 -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nzwrote: Ned Batchelder wrote: Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language and philosophy now. Philosophy is totally on topic for this group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gJamguN04 A classic! I

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:10:04 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language and philosophy now. Hello Ned. I respect the fact that you want to keep threads on-topic, and i greatly appreciate the humbleness of your request. However, i feel as

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 25-11-13 21:00, Ethan Furman schreef: On 11/25/2013 11:53 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances for slight difference in dialect. I don't see how that follows. I would say on the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
already found it necessary to explain the specific use of doubt by the OP. Not that I mind that much but as has been said multiple times, a contribution is only written once and read many times. So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be understandable than from the readers

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-24 Thread xDog Walker
On Saturday 2013 November 23 23:32, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: This list needs stronger moderation Rule #1: The ML should not disseminate any message which contains an unquoted please. -- Yonder nor sorghum stenches shut ladle gulls stopper torque wet strainers. --

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread William Ray Wing
On Nov 23, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that dialect it is grammatically correct to say the codes, just as in

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/11/2013 02:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: In other words, in UK/US English, UK English? Clearly you've never been to Newcastle upon Tyne or Glasgow :) -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence --

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-23 10:44, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:42:44 -0700, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com declaimed the following: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Rice is the plural of rouse Not according to the

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Steve Simmons
By the same logic the plural of spouse is spice and most men that have had more than one wife will tell you that, whilst it may be the expectation, it ain't necessarily so ;-) On 23/11/2013 16:44, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: Mice/Mouse Rice/*Rouse Wordplay is one of my worst vouse. ;-) Yeah, some people can come up with bad puns in a trouse. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Steve Simmons
On 23/11/2013 17:35, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: Mice/Mouse Rice/*Rouse Wordplay is one of my worst vouse. ;-) Yeah, some people can come up with bad puns in a trouse. ChrisA Well! That wasn't very nouse!

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Denis McMahon
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:18:03 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked queries) ? The codes are: 1)

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:18:03 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [snip] I look forward to the day that rice is the plural of ri Yes and i look forward to the day when thread hijacking perpetrated under the guise of exploring linguistic minutia perpetrated under the guise of vanity is

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