Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Maric Michaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Monday 15 September 2008 16:45:12 Maric Michaud, vous avez écrit : This is not sufficient for auto-responses, and given the following rfcs, it would smart to both : ... - add or modify the Return-Path and/or Reply-To header for badly

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-16 Thread Maric Michaud
Le Monday 15 September 2008 16:45:12 Maric Michaud, vous avez écrit : This is not sufficient for auto-responses, and given the following rfcs, it would smart to both : ... - add or modify the Return-Path and/or Reply-To header for badly implemented auto-responders to point to list maintainer.

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:27:33 +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: When mail messages bounce, the MTA (Message Transfer Agent--the program that handles mail) *should* send the bounce message to whatever is in the Sender header, and only if that header does not exist, should it use the From header.

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Matt Nordhoff
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:27:33 +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: When mail messages bounce, the MTA (Message Transfer Agent--the program that handles mail) *should* send the bounce message to whatever is in the Sender header, and only if that header does not exist, should

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-12, Matt Nordhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you misunderstand. He's referring to the Sender header, not the From header. The messages the listbot sends out have a Sender header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (supposing the subscriber's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Bounces

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread Matt Nordhoff
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-09-12, Matt Nordhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you misunderstand. He's referring to the Sender header, not the From header. The messages the listbot sends out have a Sender header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (supposing the subscriber's email address is [EMAIL

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-12 Thread MRAB
On Sep 12, 11:15 pm, Matt Nordhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:27:33 +0200, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: When mail messages bounce, the MTA (Message Transfer Agent--the program that handles mail) *should* send the bounce message to whatever is in the

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the original. Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce messages? You asked for email to be sent, by sending a Usenet post to comp.lang.python. That's what a

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Steven D'Aprano wrote: I wasn't aware that comp.lang.python was a news-to-mail gateway. How can one tell the difference between news groups that use a news-to-mail gateway, and news groups that don't? by reading the group's FAQ, perhaps?

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Ben Finney
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nor do I believe that by posting a news message I've automatically consented to receive email messages. To imply that the one implies the other is equivalent to arguing that because I've written a letter to the editor of a newspaper, I therefore

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-11, Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent the original. Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce messages? You asked for email to be sent, No, I

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce messages? While you're at it, might as well fix it for

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-11, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:36:36 -0500, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: Wrong. I didn't send _any_ e-mail. Why should I get bounce messages? One: Comp.lang.python is dual-routed with

Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Grant Edwards
Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce messages? While you're at it, might as well fix it for everybody else too. ;) Its a bit rude to send out

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Ben Finney
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce messages? The bounce messages are sent to you because you sent

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-09-10, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages so that I don't get the bounce messages?

Re: Gateway to python-list is generating bounce messages.

2008-09-10 Thread Ben Finney
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2008-09-10, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could whoever is responsible for the gateway that is grabbing my postings off of Usenet and e-mailing them out please fix the headers in the mail messages