Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Joe P. Cool writes: On 12 Apr., 03:34, baalbek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delphi/Object Pascal simply sucks big time! I disagree. Delphi/Object Pascal with the VCL (Visual Component Library) is one of the most sophisticated IDEs ever, even better than Qt IMO. [...] I was

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread bockman
On 11 Apr, 20:19, Rune Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming in Python is a neanderthal experience. What one

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread bvidinli
So many gui toolkits, designers none of them makes up half of Delphi... unfortunately... i try to use Boa now, easiest of all others on linux/python, but it is far away from Delphi- delphi like... Why dont those toolkits/designers come together and build a single, powerfull ide ?

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread TYR
Who cares? Everyone does their GUI in a browser these days - keep up, Dad. What we need is a pythonic front end. /troll -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread srf99
I'd like to build a really simple GUI app   that will work across Mac, Windows, and Linux. You might look at easygui http://www.ferg.org/easygui/index.html That will give you something simple and workable. Then you can go on to more advanced stuff at your leisure. --

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-16 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 16, 4:17 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reformulating my question: Which GUI tool, wxPython or PyQt, is more pythonic? (Please, ignore the license issue because I am thinking about FOSS) None of them, all three of them (you forgot PyGTK), or it doesn't matter more. Nobody with their

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:43:28 +, David Cook wrote: On 2008-04-11, Gabriel Ibanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is nobody talking about pyGTK ? There are no limits with licenses (I think) The OS X port is still pretty preliminary. Dave Cook I often use pygtk for my *ix projects,

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Joe P. Cool
On 12 Apr., 03:34, baalbek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delphi/Object Pascal simply sucks big time! I disagree. Delphi/Object Pascal with the VCL (Visual Component Library) is one of the most sophisticated IDEs ever, even better than Qt IMO. The only drawback is that it is Windows only. No real

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread lxlaurax
On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 5:01 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the open source license and

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Benjamin
On Apr 15, 9:17 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 5:01 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot

RE: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Marlin Rowley
] Subject: Re: How is GUI programming in Python? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:17:31 -0700 To: python-list@python.org On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 5:01 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11 abr, 20:31, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I have no experience with GUI programming in Python, but from this discussion it seems if the type of license is not an issue (for FOSS development), PyQt is the best tool because it is:

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-13 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Bronger wrote: Hallöchen! Und auch ein hallo, aus den Niederlanden! :P Michel Bouwmans writes: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-13 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:38:22 -0300, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:31:42 -0300, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-12 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:31:42 -0300, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the open source license and later decide to

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-12 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:31:42 -0300, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-12 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen! Michel Bouwmans writes: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the open source

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Phil Thompson
On Friday 11 April 2008, David Cook wrote: On 2008-04-10, Paul Rubin http wrote: Well, it's a trade-off, the person wanted a cross platform gui and the #1 hurdle for something like PyQt4 is getting it to work on each of the platforms you desire to run on. Installing Pyqt on windows

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Rubin
Phil Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Installing Pyqt on windows involves a couple click to install EXEs. On Linux, one uses yum or apt. Only on Mac is it marginally a bit harder. Actually, on Windows it's only one .exe as the PyQt GPL binary installer includes Qt and all it's tools

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gabriel Genellina wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the open source license and later decide to switch to the commercial licence

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Michel Bouwmans
Steve Holden wrote: Michel Bouwmans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Driscoll wrote: On Apr 10, 12:05 pm, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Rune Strand
On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming in Python is a neanderthal experience. What one may love with console scripts is turned upside-down. Projects

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Holden
Rune Strand wrote: On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming in Python is a neanderthal experience. What one may love with console scripts is turned

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Rune Strand
On Apr 11, 8:35 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wxDesigner. Yeah, but it's like Heron of Alexandria's Aeolipile compared to the steam engine of James Watt. IMHO, GUI with Python is pain, pain and utter pain. Even boring and meaningless pain. --

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 11, 8:35 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wxDesigner. IMHO, wxFormBuilder is better. http://wxformbuilder.org/ http://preview.tinyurl.com/6l8wp4 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Stef Mientki
Rune Strand wrote: On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming in Python is a neanderthal experience. What one may love with console scripts

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rune Strand wrote: On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming in Python is a neanderthal experience.

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Gabriel Ibanez
: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:39 PM Subject: Re: How is GUI programming in Python? Rune Strand wrote: On Apr 10, 3:54 am, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Next, what would you say is the best framework I should look into? I'm curious to hear opinions on that. GUI-programming

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Rune Strand
On Apr 12, 12:03 am, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Qt Designer. And creating the GUI yourself in the text editor isn't that bad, plus you have much better control over it. If you like designing isual elements in an editor, that's fine for me! I don't, And as I don't do it all the

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 12, 12:32 am, Rune Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: produce what I want without _wasting life_. But Boa is too unstable, and does not claim otherwise, and there's no descent alternative I'm aware of. wxFormDesigner is the best there is for wx. QtDesigner ditto for Qt. Glade ditto for

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread sturlamolden
On Apr 11, 5:01 am, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another annoying thing with the Qt license is that you have to choose it at the very start of the project. You cannot develop something using the open source license and later decide to switch to the commercial licence and buy it.

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread baalbek
Rune Strand wrote: Numerous RAD' env's, fx Delphi, suggests this kind of incredibly boring almost pre-historic, self-pestering non-sense pain is ancient, I have used Delphi for a lot of projects, as well as wxPython with the Glade Gui designer (and wxDesigner with C++ projects).

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread David Cook
On 2008-04-11, Gabriel Ibanez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is nobody talking about pyGTK ? There are no limits with licenses (I think) The OS X port is still pretty preliminary. Dave Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread CM
On Apr 11, 3:29 pm, Rune Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 11, 8:35 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wxDesigner. Yeah, but it's like Heron of Alexandria's Aeolipile compared to the steam engine of James Watt. IMHO, GUI with Python is pain, pain and utter pain. Even boring

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Holden
Rune Strand wrote: On Apr 11, 8:35 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wxDesigner. Yeah, but it's like Heron of Alexandria's Aeolipile compared to the steam engine of James Watt. IMHO, GUI with Python is pain, pain and utter pain. Even boring and meaningless pain. IMHO you are a

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread David Cook
On 2008-04-10, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac,

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Rubin
Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If by best you mean easiest, that is probably tkinter, I don't quite agree with you on this. Tkinter may be easy because it is available by standard in Python, but that's about it in my opinion. The API, look and performance hit is horrible. You're

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 10, 12:05 pm, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Chris Stewart wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac, Windows, and Linux. How painful is

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Michel Bouwmans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Driscoll wrote: On Apr 10, 12:05 pm, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always had an interest in Python and would like

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread John Henry
On Apr 9, 6:54 pm, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac,

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Steve Holden
Michel Bouwmans wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Driscoll wrote: On Apr 10, 12:05 pm, Michel Bouwmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Rubin wrote: Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always had an

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:01:43 -0300, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Michel Bouwmans wrote: Mike Driscoll wrote: I see a lot of people recommend using pyQt, but they never mention the controversy that surrounds its licensing. There have been many posts on the subject already, but

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-10 Thread David Cook
On 2008-04-10, Paul Rubin http wrote: Well, it's a trade-off, the person wanted a cross platform gui and the #1 hurdle for something like PyQt4 is getting it to work on each of the platforms you desire to run on. Installing Pyqt on windows involves a couple click to install EXEs. On Linux,

How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Stewart
I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac, Windows, and Linux. How painful is that going to be? I

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Rubin
Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac, Windows, and Linux.

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Kaplan
: Wednesday, April 9, 2008 9:54:33 PM Subject: How is GUI programming in Python? I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread Benjamin
On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac,

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread Kam-Hung Soh
On Apr 10, 12:35 pm, Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to

Re: How is GUI programming in Python?

2008-04-09 Thread CM
On Apr 9, 9:54 pm, Chris Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always had an interest in Python and would like to dabble in it further. I've worked on a few very small command line programs but nothing of any complexity. I'd like to build a really simple GUI app that will work across Mac,