Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-12 Thread Fuzzyman
On Feb 12, 7:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuzzyman: Another interesting little benchmark of CPython and IronPython. Can't see the code, but it looks like an implementation of the 11 queens problem and IronPython comes out a clear winner on this one. (Looks like no benchmark for

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-12 Thread bearophileHUGS
Fuzzyman: Another interesting little benchmark of CPython and IronPython. Can't see the code, but it looks like an implementation of the 11 queens problem and IronPython comes out a clear winner on this one. (Looks like no benchmark for psyco.) If you want a more reliable set of benchmarks,

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-12 Thread Fuzzyman
On Feb 5, 5:31 pm, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, the urlhttp://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) saysIronPythonis faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? If yes, what areIronPythondrawbacks vs CPython? And is it possible

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-07 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Feb 6, 1:54 pm, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isaac Gouy wrote: On Feb 5, 11:47 am, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative:

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread bearophileHUGS
Stefan Behnel: This doesn't look like Mono to me: IronPython 1.1 (1.1) on .NET 2.0.50727.42 You are right! I think this shows that IronPython isn't faster than CPython at all :-) (And it uses more memory). Bye, bearophile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Feb 5, 11:47 am, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/sandbox/benchmark.php?test=alllang... This

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Isaac Gouy
On Feb 6, 12:04 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan Behnel: This doesn't look like Mono to me: IronPython 1.1 (1.1) on .NET 2.0.50727.42 You are right! No. I think this shows that IronPython isn't faster than CPython at all :-) (And it uses more memory). --

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Fuzzyman
On Feb 5, 7:47 pm, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/sandbox/benchmark.php?test=alllang... This

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Fuzzyman
On Feb 5, 6:52 pm, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff wrote: IronPythonruns on top of .NET. I would be suspect of any claims that it is faster than cPython, just as I would of claims that Stackless or Jython are faster. Well don't be. There are benchmarks that clearly

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Carsten Haese
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 13:39 -0800, Fuzzyman wrote: On Feb 5, 7:47 pm, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative:

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Stefan Behnel
Isaac Gouy wrote: On Feb 5, 11:47 am, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative:

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-06 Thread Stefan Behnel
Fuzzyman wrote: On Feb 5, 7:47 pm, Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative:

IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread dmitrey
Hi all, the url http://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? If yes, what are IronPython drawbacks vs CPython? And is it possible to use IronPython in Linux? D. --

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Jeff
IronPython runs on top of .NET. I would be suspect of any claims that it is faster than cPython, just as I would of claims that Stackless or Jython are faster. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Steve Holden
Jeff wrote: IronPython runs on top of .NET. I would be suspect of any claims that it is faster than cPython, just as I would of claims that Stackless or Jython are faster. Well don't be. There are benchmarks that clearly show IronPython as faster for selected tests. Other tests show CPython

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
dmitrey wrote: Hi all, the url http://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? On certain platforms, I believe so, for certain types of operations. Not sure if Mono also

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:22:39 -0500, Mike C. Fletcher [snip] PyPy is attempting to address this issue via a separate interpreter, but it's currently just playing catch-up on performance most of the time. It does have a JIT, and might one day be fast enough to be a usable replacement for CPython,

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Stefan Behnel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/sandbox/benchmark.php?test=alllang=iron This doesn't look like Mono to me: IronPython 1.1 (1.1)

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread bearophileHUGS
Mike C. Fletcher: Not sure if Mono also provides a speedup. There is a set of good benchmarks here, the answer is negative: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/sandbox/benchmark.php?test=alllang=iron Bye, bearophile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Istvan Albert
On Feb 5, 12:31 pm, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, the urlhttp://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? This is a second time around that IronPython piqued my interest

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Christian Heimes
dmitrey wrote: Hi all, the url http://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? If yes, what are IronPython drawbacks vs CPython? And is it possible to use IronPython in Linux?

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On Feb 5, 8:01 pm, Istvan Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 12:31 pm, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, the urlhttp://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true?

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Istvan Albert
On Feb 5, 4:56 pm, Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it be because .NET doesn't have arbitrary length integer types and your little benchmark will create lots of integers 2**32 ? What is the result if you replace foo(a) with def foo(a): return sqrt(a) Good observation, in

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Feb 5, 3:56 pm, Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 8:01 pm, Istvan Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 12:31 pm, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, the urlhttp://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Luis M. González
On 5 feb, 14:31, dmitrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, the urlhttp://torquedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/changes-in-air.html (blog of a game developers) says IronPython is faster than CPython in 1.6 times. Is it really true? If yes, what are IronPython drawbacks vs CPython? And is it possible

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Christian Heimes
Luis M. González wrote: The result is that it runs slighty faster in both, IP and CP, but cpython is still faster (around 2x) than ironpython. However, when using psyco simply blows everything out of the water... CPython is very fast here because it keeps blocks of allocated integer objects to

Re: IronPython vs CPython: faster in 1.6 times?

2008-02-05 Thread Steve Holden
Christian Heimes wrote: Luis M. González wrote: The result is that it runs slighty faster in both, IP and CP, but cpython is still faster (around 2x) than ironpython. However, when using psyco simply blows everything out of the water... CPython is very fast here because it keeps blocks of