Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread Ned Deily
In article captjjmpfyoxnp-1w2-_8riaoz30w2lsz5q7ky4fbpc-bpmv...@mail.gmail.com, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it only *became* contrary to recommended practice in response to Arch doing it and everyone seeing the issues it caused :) Personally, I'm glad they did. Lets those of

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread David Palao
2014-08-11 23:36 GMT+02:00 Ned Deily n...@acm.org: In article lsb84u$21c$1...@reader1.panix.com, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Apparently. Perhaps theres an enable LSB compliance option somewhere in the Arch install docs, but I didn't see it... Also beware that, unlike most

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread Fabien
On 12.08.2014 09:59, David Palao wrote: Also Gentoo uses Python3 by default for some months now. The positive side effect for me has been that I started seriously to switch to python3. it's a matter of months for debian/ubuntu to rely only on python3 code too, while still respecting PEP 394:

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to install, but

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-12, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick kwpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 2014-08-12, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick kwpol...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to

Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Edwards
I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to install, but I'd still pretty surprised it's not there by default. I guess I've spent too

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Chris Rebert
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to install,

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-11, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not included in the

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Ned Deily
In article lsb84u$21c$1...@reader1.panix.com, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Apparently. Perhaps theres an enable LSB compliance option somewhere in the Arch install docs, but I didn't see it... Also beware that, unlike most other distributions and contrary to recommended

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article lsb84u$21c$1...@reader1.panix.com, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Apparently. Perhaps theres an enable LSB compliance option somewhere in the Arch install docs, but I didn't see it... Also beware that,

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-08-11, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article lsb84u$21c$1...@reader1.panix.com, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: Apparently. Perhaps theres an enable LSB compliance option somewhere in the Arch

Re: Linux distros w/o Python in base installation

2014-08-11 Thread Rustom Mody
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:23:57 AM UTC+5:30, Grant Edwards wrote: I just installed Arch Linux for the first time, and was surprosed to find that Python isn't installed as part of a base system. It's also not included in the 'base-devel' package group. It's trivial to install, but I'd