Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-27 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: (snip) I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule: using OO when you don't

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread bruno at modulix
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: (snip) I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule: using OO when you don't have to. Lawrence, I'm afraid you're confusing OO with statically-typed

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread ToddLMorgan
Thanks for those ... just by looking at the colour of the links in my browser I'd only found 4 of those already so I appreciate the heads up :- ) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
bruno at modulix a écrit : Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: (snip) I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule: using OO when you don't have to. Lawrence, I'm afraid you're

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread bruno at modulix
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or even C++ developer may commonly make. Using subclassing when you don't have to. For instance, you might have a Java method

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread gene tani
Ant wrote: Take a look at the newgroup archives over the last week or two - there seem to have been a glut of people coming from Java to Python and asking the same sort of questions. There were some links to a bunch of Python 'gotcha' pages which will be useful. Here's a few gotchas which i

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Harry George
Lawrence D'Oliveiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as reccomended reading in C++ and Java? I don't think

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Orr
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as reccomended reading in C++ and Java? I don't think they exist. Such books are targeted more towards

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], gene tani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ferg.org/projects/python_gotchas.html Amazing. Backslashes are listed as not one, but _two_ items on the list. The problem is not with Python at all, it is with the MS-DOS foundations of Windows. When directory

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], bruno at modulix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or even C++ developer may commonly make. Using subclassing

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as reccomended reading in C++ and Java? I

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-23 Thread ToddLMorgan
I've actually managed to find some other links by backtracking through some of the links that you provided. The most comprehensive so far is this one http://www.razorvine.net/python/PythonForJavaProgrammers and a summary version (on the same site)

Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread ToddLMorgan
I'm just starting out with python, after having a long history with Java. I was wondering if there were any resources or tips from anyone out there in Python-land that can help me make the transition as successfully as possible? Perhaps you've made the transition yourself or just have experience

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or even C++ developer may commonly make. Using subclassing when you don't have to. For instance, you might have a Java method which takes an argument of type

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ToddLMorgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as reccomended reading in C++ and Java? I don't think they exist. Such books are targeted more towards

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Anton Vredegoor
ToddLMorgan wrote: I'm just starting out with python, after having a long history with Java. I was wondering if there were any resources or tips from anyone out there in Python-land that can help me make the transition as successfully as possible? Perhaps you've made the transition yourself

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Chris Lambacher
http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/java-is-not-python-either.html http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-interfaces-are-not-java.html This link seems to be down at the moment. http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/15/the-static-method-thing The above

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Ant
Take a look at the newgroup archives over the last week or two - there seem to have been a glut of people coming from Java to Python and asking the same sort of questions. There were some links to a bunch of Python 'gotcha' pages which will be useful. For my part, I came from Java to Python, and