Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Anderson
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Claire McLister wrote: We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. Top stuff! The misses are, if anything, more interesting than the hits! I, apparently, am in Norwich. I have been to Norwich a few times, and,

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-09 Thread Michael
Paul McGuire wrote: Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at:

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-08 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Claire McLister] I've made the script available on our downloads page at: http://www.zeesource.net/downloads/e2i [Alan Kennedy] I look forward to the map with updated precision :-) [Claire McLister] Me too. Please let me know how we should modify the script. Having examined your script,

[OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 This represents emails sent to the group since October 27. Would like

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Paul McGuire
Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
Paul McGuire wrote: Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at:

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Steve Holden
Claire McLister wrote: We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 This represents emails sent to the group

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rocco Moretti wrote: Paul McGuire wrote: Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at:

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Rocco Moretti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rocco Moretti wrote: It's also a testament to the limited value of physically locating people by internet addresses - If you zoom in on the San Fransico bay area, and click on the southern most bubble (south of San Jose), you'll see the entry for the Mountain View postal

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Robert Kern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: North of that bubble is a second massive list also labeled Mountain View 94043. I found my name on that list and I live in the Chicago area. Moutain View is, perhaps, where aol.com is located? These bubbles are showing the location of the server that's registered

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Kern wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: North of that bubble is a second massive list also labeled Mountain View 94043. I found my name on that list and I live in the Chicago area. Moutain View is, perhaps, where aol.com is located? These bubbles are showing the location of the

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Robert Kern] Most of AOL's offices are in Dulles, VA. Google's headquarters are in Mountain View, CA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha, I post to the usenet through Google. Makes the map application all the more stupid, doesn't it? Actually, no, because Google Groups sets the NNTP-Posting-Host header to

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We've been working with Google Maps, and have created a web service to map origins of emails to a group. As a trial, we've developed a map of emails to this group at: http://www.zeesource.net/maps/map.do?group=668 This represents emails

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alan Kennedy wrote: [Robert Kern] Most of AOL's offices are in Dulles, VA. Google's headquarters are in Mountain View, CA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha, I post to the usenet through Google. Makes the map application all the more stupid, doesn't it? Actually, no, because Google Groups sets the

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread George Sakkis
Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: H... I don't see mine listed there: I'm in South America, Brasil. More specifically in Curitiba, ParanĂ¡, Brasil. :-) That's funny; I was looking for mine and I stumbled across yours at Piscataway, NJ, US. :-) George --

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Paul McGuire wrote: I guess it's a great way to find where there might be Python jobs to be found, or at least kindred souls (or dissident Python posters in countries where Internet activity is closely monitored...) Possibly. But there are so many in-accuracies,

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Rocco Moretti wrote: It's also a testament to the limited value of physically locating people by internet addresses - If you zoom in on the San Fransico bay area, and click on the southern most bubble (south of San Jose), you'll see the entry for the Mountain

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Alan Kennedy] So presumably chcgil indicates you're in Chicago, Illinois? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but why, then, is my name logged into Mountain View, CA? Presumably the creators of the map have chosen to use a mechanism other than NNTP-Posting-Host IP address to geolocate posters. Claire,

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jorge Godoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: H... I don't see mine listed there: I'm in South America, Brasil. More specifically in Curitiba, ParanĂ¡, Brasil. :-) That's funny; I was looking for mine and I stumbled across yours at Piscataway, NJ, US. :-)

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Steve Holden wrote: Mostly I wonder what the point is. For example, given my own somewhat nomadic life I wondered what location has been used to map my own contributions. Just for fun, really. We try to a best job of mapping the IP location closest to the origins

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. The Python list is unique among the lists that we have handled so far, in that it has a cross-posting mechanism with a net news. Hence, it seems we are getting many more wrong

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Hodgson
Claire McLister: We try to get a best guess estimate of the originating IP and its location. If we cannot find that, we fall back on the earliest server that has a location information. Clearly this marks quite a few email origins in the wrong way. It doesn't do the collection of ALL gmail

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Alan Kennedy
[Claire McLister] Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. Aha, that would explain the lack of precision in many cases. A lot of posters in this list/group go through NNTP (either with an NNTP client or through

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Mike Meyer
Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Alan. You are absolutely right, we are not using the NNTP-Posting-Host header for obtaining the IP address. Yes, but what are you using? The Python list is unique among the lists that we have handled so far, in that it has a cross-posting

Re: [OT] Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Mike Meyer
Claire McLister [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An interesting perspective. Not to increase your sense of 'creepy', but a lot of big corporations now have access to this kind of information and more. You mean my creditors are going to be looking for me in San Francisco, even though I'm in Virginia?

Re: Map of email origins to Python list

2005-11-07 Thread Claire McLister
On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Alan Kennedy wrote: Sure, please do make it available, or at least the geolocation component anyway. I'm sure you'll get lots of useful comments from the many clever and experienced folk who frequent this group. I've made the script available on our downloads