On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:10:18 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
I just saw today that this will be included in Python 3.4. Congratulations,
Steven, this is a nice addition.
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I think the install issues in the pep are exaggerated, and are in my opinion
not a sufficient reason to get something into the standard lib.
google appengine includes numpy
https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/libraries27
I'm on Windows, and installing numpy and scipy are
NumPy and SciPy are not available for many Python users, including those
using a Python implementation for which there is no Numpy support
URL:http://new.scipy.org/faq.html#python-version-support and those for
whom large, dependency-heavy third-party packages are too much burden.
See the
On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:10:18 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0450/
Please read the FAQs before asking anything :-)
I think this is a super idea.
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
The trick here is that numpy really is the right way to do this stuff.
I like to say:
crunching numbers in python without numpy is like doing text processing
without using the string object
What this is really an
On 16 August 2013 17:31, chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
The trick here is that numpy really is the right way to do this stuff.
Although it doesn't mention this in the PEP, a significant point that
is worth bearing in mind
On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:31:34 -0700, chris.barker wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to
Python's
The trick here is that numpy really is the right way to do this stuff.
Numpy does not have a monopoly on the correct algorithms for statistics
functions, and a
On Friday, August 16, 2013 10:15:52 AM UTC-7, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
On 16 August 2013 17:31, chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
Although it doesn't mention this in the PEP, a significant point that
is worth bearing in mind is that numpy is only for CPython, not PyPy,
IronPython, Jython etc. See
CM wrote:
On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:10:18 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
I think it's a very good idea. Good PEP points, too. I hope it happens.
+1 especially for non-Cpython versions of
On 16 August 2013 20:00, chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
One other point -- for performance reason, is would be nice to have some
compiled code in there -- this adds incentive to put it in the stdlib --
external packages that need compiling is what makes numpy unacceptable to
some folks.
On Friday, August 16, 2013 11:51:49 AM UTC-7, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The trick here is that numpy really is the right way to do this stuff.
Numpy does not have a monopoly on the correct algorithms for statistics
functions,
indeed not -- in fact, a number of them are quite lame, either
In article 0d60fd90-eb19-4702-acd5-dd7ba0edd...@googlegroups.com,
taldcr...@cfa.harvard.edu wrote:
Python is showing up in high-school and colllege intro programming
courses here in the U.S.
Yup. For the past few years, I've been a judge in the NYC Science and
Engineering Fair
On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:14:55 +0200, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to
Python's standard library:
I don't think that you want to re-implement RPy.
I never suggested re-implementing RPy. When you read the PEP, you will
see that this
On Friday, August 9, 2013 9:10:18 PM UTC-4, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
I think it's a very good idea. Good PEP points, too. I hope it happens.
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I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to
Python's standard library:
I don't think that you want to re-implement RPy.
Sincerely,
Wolfgang
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On Aug 13, 2013 7:22 PM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to
Python's standard library:
I don't think that you want to re-implement RPy.
You're right. He doesn't.
Oscar
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See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why “install NumPy” is not
a feasible solution for many use cases, and why having ‘statistics’ as a
pure-Python, standard-library package is desirable.
I read that before posting but am not sure I agree. I don't see the
screaming need for this
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why “install NumPy” is not
a feasible solution for many use cases, and why having ‘statistics’ as a
pure-Python, standard-library package is desirable.
I read that before
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 06:50:36 -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why “install NumPy” is
not a feasible solution for many use cases, and why having ‘statistics’
as a pure-Python, standard-library package is desirable.
I read that before posting but am
In article mailman.479.1376221844.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why âinstall NumPyâ is not
a feasible solution for many use cases, and why having âstatisticsâ as a
pure-Python, standard-library
On 11/08/13 15:02, Roy Smith wrote:
In article mailman.479.1376221844.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why “install NumPy� is not
a feasible solution for many use cases, and why having ‘statistics’ as a
Ben Finney, 10.08.2013 07:05:
Skip Montanaro writes:
Given that installing numpy or scipy is generally no more difficult
that executing pip install (scipy|numpy) I'm not really feeling the
need for a battery here...
See the Rationale of PEP 450 for more reasons why “install NumPy” is not
a
In article mailman.417.1376104455.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
Given that installing numpy or scipy is generally no more difficult
that executing pip install (scipy|numpy) I'm not really feeling the
need for a battery here...
I just tried installing numpy
On 10 August 2013 12:50, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article mailman.417.1376104455.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
Given that installing numpy or scipy is generally no more difficult
that executing pip install (scipy|numpy) I'm not really feeling the
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
installing numpy or scipy is generally no more difficult
that executing pip install (scipy|numpy)
I described the problems I had trying to follow that advice.
In article mailman.425.1376137459.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Oscar Benjamin
On 10 August 2013 13:43, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article mailman.425.1376137459.1251.python-l...@python.org,
Oscar Benjamin oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com wrote:
You should use apt-get for numpy/scipy on Ubuntu. Although
unfortunately IIRC this doesn't work as well as it should since
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0450/
Please read the FAQs before asking anything :-)
Also relevant:
http://bugs.python.org/issue18606
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Steven
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On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
I am seeking comments on PEP 450, Adding a statistics module to Python's
standard library:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0450/
Please read the FAQs before asking anything :-)
Given that
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com writes:
Given that installing numpy or scipy is generally no more difficult
that executing pip install (scipy|numpy) I'm not really feeling the
need for a battery here...
NumPy and SciPy are not available for many Python users, including those
using a Python
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