Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> programmers, like engineers, have to deal with the >> possibility (or certainty) of idiots using their products. > > As a programmer, I'm OK with the idea that idiots are using my programs. > What bother

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > programmers, like engineers, have to deal with the > possibility (or certainty) of idiots using their products. As a programmer, I'm OK with the idea that idiots are using my programs. What bothers me more is when, as a user of a program, I have to deal w

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I have always found, computer scientists are funny scientists. > > I have always found that sciences which contain the word "science" in > their name tend to not be very scientific. > > Biology, Chem

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Sergi Pasoev
What about Earth Science? But in this case, it is indeed science, because in its name the word science is applied to the object of its study. But in the case of "computer science", the word science is applied to the word which describes the tool this "science" uses!! It's like it was Telescope Scie

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Sergi Pasoev
Let's say computer science isn't science. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread Roy Smith
In article , wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > I have always found, computer scientists are funny scientists. I have always found that sciences which contain the word "science" in their name tend to not be very scientific. Biology, Chemistry, Physics, those are real sciences. Computer Science, So

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-04 Thread wxjmfauth
Le samedi 3 août 2013 13:35:29 UTC+2, Nicholas a écrit : > On Friday, 2 August 2013, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > So, what are you feasting for?  Nothing? > > > I have long since ceased to be amazed at the number of people who would like > their personal and arbitra

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-03 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > Sorry. Term I should have used is "base SI unit". Instead of using the > cm, use the m. Or go three orders of magnitude at a time to the km or > the mm. Or, go digital, and use Kim (kibimeters). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-03 Thread Nicholas Cole
On Friday, 2 August 2013, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: [snip] > > So, what are you feasting for? Nothing? I have long since ceased to be amazed at the number of people who would like their personal and arbitrary preferences, and the rationalisations that go with them, to be validated and en

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 2 August 2013 22:34, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM, wrote: >> >> > Problem #3 >> > cm or inch? The only serious unit is an SI unit. >> > (In scientific publications, only SI units are accepted) >> >> The cm

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread Joshua Landau
On 2 August 2013 22:34, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM, wrote: > > Problem #3 > > cm or inch? The only serious unit is an SI unit. > > (In scientific publications, only SI units are accepted) > > The cm is not a primary SI unit either. But it is an SI unit. (As a si

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/2/2013 1:19 AM, Dave Angel wrote: Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/1/2013 7:33 PM, Dave Angel wrote: Terry Reedy wrote: The diff with all the changes is here http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb Just out of curiosity, where is "coding cookie" defined? I found enough distant referenc

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM, wrote: > Le vendredi 2 août 2013 17:19:11 UTC+2, Skip Montanaro a écrit : >> > The solely valid solution, assuming there is some wish, >> > is to define a maximal line width (preferably in SI units ;-) >> >> So, 79 * 8 points == 0.22295696 meters, right? :-) >

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 2 août 2013 17:19:11 UTC+2, Skip Montanaro a écrit : > > The solely valid solution, assuming there is some wish, > > > is to define a maximal line width (preferably in SI units ;-) > > > > So, 79 * 8 points == 0.22295696 meters, right? :-) > > > > Skip You can correct your m

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread Skip Montanaro
> The solely valid solution, assuming there is some wish, > is to define a maximal line width (preferably in SI units ;-) So, 79 * 8 points == 0.22295696 meters, right? :-) Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 2 août 2013 13:07:47 UTC+2, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > > > In article , > > > Terry Reedy wrote: > > > > > >> Newly revised this morning: > > >> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length > > >> summ

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-02 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> Newly revised this morning: >> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length >> summary: >> 72 for text block (comments, triple-quoted strings) >> 79 for normal code >> 99 for code that is re

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Dave Angel
Terry Reedy wrote: > On 8/1/2013 7:33 PM, Dave Angel wrote: >> Terry Reedy wrote: >> >> > > The diff with all the changes is here > http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb >> >> Just out of curiosity, where is "coding cookie" defined? I found enough >> distant references to de

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/1/2013 7:33 PM, Dave Angel wrote: Terry Reedy wrote: The diff with all the changes is here http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb Just out of curiosity, where is "coding cookie" defined? I found enough distant references to decide it was supposed to mean the coding line (line 2,

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 20:51:43 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> Newly revised this morning: >> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length summary: >> 72 for text block (comments, triple-quoted strings) 79 for normal code >> 99 for code that is rea

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Terry Reedy wrote: > Newly revised this morning: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length > summary: > 72 for text block (comments, triple-quoted strings) > 79 for normal code > 99 for code that is really more readable with extra And the people did rejoice and

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Dave Angel
Terry Reedy wrote: >>> >>> The diff with all the changes is here >>> http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb >> Just out of curiosity, where is "coding cookie" defined? I found enough distant references to decide it was supposed to mean the coding line (line 2, typically in Unix). But I ori

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/1/2013 4:22 PM, Tim Chase wrote: On 2013-08-01 15:52, Terry Reedy wrote: Newly revised this morning: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length The diff with all the changes is here http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb Just a quick spelling fix of s/experiman

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-08-01 15:52, Terry Reedy wrote: > Newly revised this morning: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length > > The diff with all the changes is here > http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e9afb Just a quick spelling fix of s/experimants/experiments/ at http://hg.pyth

Re: PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/1/2013 3:52 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Newly revised this morning: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length summary: 72 for text block (comments, triple-quoted strings) 79 for normal code 99 for code that is really more readable with extra Or maybe not for stdlib. Guido thin

PEP8 revised: max line lengths

2013-08-01 Thread Terry Reedy
Newly revised this morning: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#maximum-line-length summary: 72 for text block (comments, triple-quoted strings) 79 for normal code 99 for code that is really more readable with extra The diff with all the changes is here http://hg.python.org/peps/rev/fb24c80e