Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-27 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 5:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: If you did not like the programming this year (aside from the sponsor talks) and you did not participate in organizing PyCon or in delivering presentations, it is YOUR FAULT.

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-19 Thread NickC
On Mar 19, 6:07 am, Jeff Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I have never attended PyCon, the amount of entertainment already gleaned from this thread has wildly exceeded my expectations. :) Are slides or notes from any of the presentations available online? What was the topic of the

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-18 Thread fumanchu
On Mar 17, 6:25 pm, dundeemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - the balance wasn't as good. We can all agree that HowTos and Intros are a necessary part of the conference talks track, but as Robert pointed out some talks should be of a more advanced nature. I enjoy those that stretch my

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-18 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Mar 18, 1:41 pm, fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 6:25 pm, dundeemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - the balance wasn't as good. We can all agree that HowTos and Intros are a necessary part of the conference talks track, but as Robert pointed out some talks should be of a

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-18 Thread Jeff Schwab
Mike Driscoll wrote: On Mar 18, 1:41 pm, fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 17, 6:25 pm, dundeemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - the balance wasn't as good. We can all agree that HowTos and Intros are a necessary part of the conference talks track, but as Robert pointed out some

Re: [PyCON-Organizers] FWD: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-17 Thread Steve Holden
Aahz wrote: FYI - Forwarded message from Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment) Date: 16 Mar 2008 17:09:02 -0700 Organization: The Cat Dragon [warning: rant ahead

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-17 Thread Paul Boddie
On 17 Mar, 02:39, BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't been to EuroPython even when it has been fairly nearby because the entrance fee was to high. But how do you help change something like that? You could join in and make your case. There was a more protracted discussion than

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-17 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Paul Boddie napisał(a): I haven't been to EuroPython even when it has been fairly nearby because the entrance fee was to high. But how do you help change something like that? You could join in and make your case. There was a more protracted discussion than usual last year about fees

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-17 Thread fumanchu
On Mar 16, 5:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my third PyCon, and I've found a reasonably-sized cadre of people who come for the hallway conversations plus a Bof or two, having given up on hearing anything new, useful, or inspiring in the

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-17 Thread dundeemt
On Mar 17, 10:35 am, fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 5:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my third PyCon, and I've found a reasonably-sized cadre of people who come for the hallway conversations plus a Bof or two, having

PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Aahz
[warning: rant ahead] [[ Before starting my rant, I would like to encourage anyone who was at PyCon but has not provided formal feedback to use the following URLs: For the conference: http://tinyurl.com/2ara8u For the tutorials: http://tinyurl.com/2ew2pc ]] In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Boddie
On 17 Mar, 01:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: PyCon is what YOU make of it. If you want to change PyCon, propose a presentation or join the conference committee (concom) -- the latter only requires signing up for the pycon-organizers mailing list. This doesn't mean that we are

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: I would like to encourage anyone who was at PyCon but has not provided formal feedback to use the following URLs: For those who don't like to follow opaque munged URLs from services that give no indication where you'll end up, here are the actual URLs you'll

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) writes: I would like to encourage anyone who was at PyCon but has not provided formal feedback to use the following URLs: For those who don't like to follow opaque munged URLs from services that give no

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Paul Boddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Mar, 01:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: PyCon is what YOU make of it. If you want to change PyCon, propose a presentation or join the conference committee (concom) -- the latter only requires signing up

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Brian Jones
On Mar 16, 8:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: If you did not like the programming this year (aside from the sponsor talks) and you did not participate in organizing PyCon or in delivering presentations, it is YOUR FAULT. PERIOD. EXCLAMATION POINT! I find this insulting, inexcusable,

Re: PyCon Feedback and Volunteers (Re: Pycon disappointment)

2008-03-16 Thread Carl Banks
On Mar 16, 10:49 pm, Brian Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 16, 8:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: If you did not like the programming this year (aside from the sponsor talks) and you did not participate in organizing PyCon or in delivering presentations, it is YOUR FAULT.