Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Claudio Grondi
So I hope this humble message might inspire some folks to have a serious look at pyfltk. For many situations, PyFLTK can take you to break-even point quickly, and deliver net savings in time and effort after that. Animated by your posting I have downloaded: fltk-1.1.6-source.zip (3.073.432

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Claudio Grondi wrote: Running some of the test examples (e.g. C:\Python24\pyfltk\test\doublebuffer.py) I am getting an error I have never seen before: == TitleOfMessageBox: Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library TheMessage:

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Anderson
On Mon, 6 Nov 2005, it was written: aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? A '70s VW Beetle - it's been going for ever, but

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-08 Thread Jeremy Sanders
aum wrote: But for smaller gui programs not needing the power of wx, I find I get the job done much more quickly and effortlessly with PyFLTK. Interesting. I've found PyQt very easy to use too. I wonder how they compare (providing you can GPL your app, of course). -- Jeremy Sanders

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread egbert
PyFLTK is not a debian package - yet. Is nobody interested, or is there a more specific reason ? -- Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS Amsterdam - 020 6257991 --

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread aum
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:25:49 +0100, egbert wrote: PyFLTK is not a debian package - yet. Is nobody interested, or is there a more specific reason ? AFAIK, the maintainer feels it's still at release-candidate stage. When he's happy with it, I'm sure he could be persuaded to make arrangements to

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread Jorge Godoy
aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm saying is that there are many basic projects being written for these toolkits, whose functionality could be completely supported by PyFLTK. When only a smaller set of widgets is needed, there's a stronger case for using lighter widget libraries -

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread Bugs
Roger Binns wrote: It is possible to make the wxPython smaller by having more DLLs each with fewer widgets in it. That way you will only suck in the ones you use. I find this VERY interesting Roger, I've been contemplating making such a request to the maintainer of wxPython (when he gets

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-07 Thread aum
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:10:32 -0200, Jorge Godoy wrote: Installing things mean, usually: 8 Distilling what you've said, it would appear the essence of your argument is PyFLTK is less desirable because it's not popular, an argument which, despite a level of pragmatic truth, does contain more than

PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
Hi all, I've been doing a fair bit of python gui programming on and off, jumping between different widget sets along the way, from anygui, to pythoncard, to tkinter/PMW, then to wxPython/wxGlade, and have now settled on a python gui API that seems to get barely a mention - PyFLTK. PyFLTK

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Rubin
aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? What about PyGTK? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:31:54 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? What about PyGTK? Tkinter -

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Peter Hansen
aum wrote: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg if you're lucky. wxPython has the cost of a massive disk and memory

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Bugs
Peter Hansen wrote: The wxPython program below, py2exe'd on my machine (1.6GHz Pentium M), comes to only 12MB (2-3MB of which is Python itself), and takes 1-2 seconds to load (actually less than one second after the first invocation following a fresh reboot). And even 12MB seems heavy,

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Steve Holden
aum wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:31:54 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, ... Whereas PyFLTK feels more like an average suburban 4-door sedan Interesting. What would Tkinter be at that car dealership? What about PyGTK?

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Peter Hansen
Bugs wrote: Peter Hansen wrote: The wxPython program below, py2exe'd on my machine (1.6GHz Pentium M), comes to only 12MB (2-3MB of which is Python itself), and takes 1-2 seconds to load (actually less than one second after the first invocation following a fresh reboot). And even 12MB

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Bugs
Hi Peter, I just used the setup.py that comes in the singlefile/gui sample. However, py2exe does still also require the msvcr71.dll runtime as well, which is 340kb. Here it is, it's a bit lengthy: # If run without args, build executables, in quiet mode. if len(sys.argv) == 1:

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread Roger Binns
aum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg if you're lucky.

Re: PyFLTK - an underrated gem for GUI projects

2005-11-06 Thread aum
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:23:03 -0800, Roger Binns wrote: To me, wxPython is like a 12-cylinder Hummer, with fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror, fridge and microwave in the back, and DVD consoles on every seat, towing a campervan - absolute power and luxury, giving 8mpg if you're lucky. A